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Post by theoutlaw1999 on Aug 10, 2017 14:12:02 GMT -5
Accidents do happen but Nakamura has been disappointing since is main roster debut. It's as if he's lost the magic he had in NXT.
Putting that aside McMahon out of all people should know that botches are common in wrestling.
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Post by ThugSuperstar on Aug 10, 2017 14:20:29 GMT -5
I said it last week - Cena was more at fault for the botch than Nakamura was. Cena should've done a backflip and instead took the move like a back suplex. And the fact that Cena even told Nakamura not to worry about it shows that he has tremendous respect and didn't want him taking the heat for this. But logic doesn't apply to Vince McMahon. Ha ha ha okay, when as Cena EVER done a back flip in ANY of his matches?? Why would he try to even attempt one then?? Nakamura is sloppy. I thought that from day one. Didn't he dislocate Samoa Joe's jaw?? And he broke the face of Austin Aries with a kick. And now he almost destroys Cena.... the guy is horrible. I know many like Nakamura, but I am not entirely sure why?? Cena has done a Code Red and a Hurricanrana several times in his matches. You make it sound like we're talking about The Big Show. Cena is agile; he just screwed this one up. Unless Cena is exploding into a backflip, explain to me how Nakamura is going to be able to lift 270 pounds of dead weight 180 degrees. |
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Post by TheBadGuyChico on Aug 10, 2017 14:30:10 GMT -5
Superstar for all of my enjoyment of his look and character, is a petty jerk. I read his ramblings, so I'm guilty here, but it's petty.
Now with that said, I'd take as first class jerk over McMahon anyday. If Vinnie dropped tomorrow, I'd acknowledge his unsurpassed promotion skills and move on. I can't stand what he's done with pro wrestling in the last 17 or so years. He's so anti wrestling, so ashamed of the essence of his product, it's disgusting.
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Post by bababooey on Aug 10, 2017 14:35:01 GMT -5
Ha ha ha okay, when as Cena EVER done a back flip in ANY of his matches?? Why would he try to even attempt one then?? Nakamura is sloppy. I thought that from day one. Didn't he dislocate Samoa Joe's jaw?? And he broke the face of Austin Aries with a kick. And now he almost destroys Cena.... the guy is horrible. I know many like Nakamura, but I am not entirely sure why?? Cena has done a Code Red and a Hurricanrana several times in his matches. You make it sound like we're talking about The Big Show. Cena is agile; he just screwed this one up. Unless Cena is exploding into a backflip, explain to me how Nakamura is going to be able to lift 270 pounds of dead weight 180 degrees. Big Show used to do moonsaults early on in WCW. Lol Anyway, I think both guys share equal responsibility in the botch. They both agreed to try the move. Seems like it was likely a small thing that screwed it up. Maybe as they were going for it, they slipped on each other's sweat, maybe Nakamura just didn't get enough on the flip, maybe Cena just didn't get enough rotation when he jumped. I know there's been plenty of times when I went to go jump or lift something and just as I started I was like "Whoops I didn't get as much I expected there." |
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Post by T R W on Aug 10, 2017 14:46:55 GMT -5
Thank God Billy Graham is here for his take on an internet rumor.
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Post by 5th Horsewoman on Aug 10, 2017 15:10:35 GMT -5
Vince probably gets mad at his showerhead for spraying water on him.
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Post by rkmo: Autonomous Meat Shield on Aug 10, 2017 15:39:11 GMT -5
If you weren't impressed with Shinsuke Nakamura before but were waiting for some kind of breakthrough moment, it seems that train has now sailed. Vince probably had his doubts, but after this, Nakamura is dead in Vince's eyes. By the end of the year, Vince will have Shinsuke in the worst spot Vince can envision, so low and so insignificant that Nak will never be able to shake off for the rest of his time at WWE. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome BREEZANGAMURA! You say that like Fashion Files hasn't been a weekly highlight My comment was not to say I don't personally find Breezango entertaining, or that Fashion Files segments haven't been well received by fans. It's my assumption that Vince sees their position to be of little significance, and that he would interpret placing a high-profile star like Nakamura with Breezango as some form of punishment. And if that turns out to actually be a success, he can take the credit. As I think about Breezango's deadpan humor with Shinsuke's facial expressions, I actually would like to see some sort of interaction, albeit in a one-off form. |
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Post by torriefan4life on Aug 10, 2017 16:49:38 GMT -5
Ha ha ha okay, when as Cena EVER done a back flip in ANY of his matches?? Why would he try to even attempt one then?? Nakamura is sloppy. I thought that from day one. Didn't he dislocate Samoa Joe's jaw?? And he broke the face of Austin Aries with a kick. And now he almost destroys Cena.... the guy is horrible. I know many like Nakamura, but I am not entirely sure why?? Nakamura is far from sloppy and horrible.
Everyone has their opinion, and I tend to think that what I have seen of him in the ring he is sloppy and has a pretty bad track record of injuring people so I think he is pretty horrible. |
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Post by Plastic Cowboy on Aug 10, 2017 17:05:08 GMT -5
Vince probably gets mad at his showerhead for spraying water on him. This cracked me up |
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Post by blissfan4life on Aug 10, 2017 17:07:22 GMT -5
Nakamura is far from sloppy and horrible.
Everyone has their opinion, and I tend to think that what I have seen of him in the ring he is sloppy and has a pretty bad track record of injuring people so I think he is pretty horrible. Its wrestling, you can get hurt in any fashion, Injuries are gonna happen, and Injuring people does not = Horrible wrestler or Sloppy. Accidents can happen. |
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Post by TheSystem 1.5 on Aug 10, 2017 17:14:25 GMT -5
I goddamn agree with ThugSuperstar, what the everloving  ?! |
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Post by LA Times on Aug 10, 2017 19:34:46 GMT -5
Maybe Vince will make him join Kaientai? Or a new 3MB with Heath Slater, Drew McIntyre and "The Rock Star" Shinsuke Nakamura. But really, why wasnt Vince furious when Seth Rollins broke John Cena's nose with a knee? Samoa Joe ended Tyson Kidd's career? Sheamus kicked Jeff Hardy's teeth out? Injuries and accidents happen. |
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Post by ThugSuperstar on Aug 10, 2017 20:04:44 GMT -5
Vince probably gets mad at his showerhead for spraying water on him. Someone (I think Paul Heyman?) has said that Vince gets furious and absolutely hates it whenever he has to sneeze in a production meeting because he looks at it as a sign of weakness shown by him in front of others. |
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Post by IRS on Aug 10, 2017 20:42:15 GMT -5
Nakamura is far from sloppy and horrible.
Everyone has their opinion, and I tend to think that what I have seen of him in the ring he is sloppy and has a pretty bad track record of injuring people so I think he is pretty horrible. Pretty bad track record... how? If that were so, he probably would've gained a much worse rep for doing it in Japan, where he worked for a much stiffer style for over a decade, no? The reality of the situation is, he's been transitioning from working the Strong Style in Japan, which guys in America aren't nearly used to, and in the case of Aries and Joe, probably let himself go and put too much behind his strikes. Asuka also has injured people in NXT with her stiff kicks - including legit KO'ing Emma, but I don't see anyone saying she's sloppy. AJ knocked out Miz's tooth with a stiff spinning backfist after coming over from Japan, but nobody would ever say he's sloppy. |
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Post by torriefan4life on Aug 10, 2017 21:21:15 GMT -5
Everyone has their opinion, and I tend to think that what I have seen of him in the ring he is sloppy and has a pretty bad track record of injuring people so I think he is pretty horrible. Pretty bad track record... how? If that were so, he probably would've gained a much worse rep for doing it in Japan, where he worked for a much stiffer style for over a decade, no? The reality of the situation is, he's been transitioning from working the Strong Style in Japan, which guys in America aren't nearly used to, and in the case of Aries and Joe, probably let himself go and put too much behind his strikes. Asuka also has injured people in NXT with her stiff kicks - including legit KO'ing Emma, but I don't see anyone saying she's sloppy. AJ knocked out Miz's tooth with a stiff spinning backfist after coming over from Japan, but nobody would ever say he's sloppy. Just look at the list of people he has injured in his time with NXT and WWE.....That looks pretty bad if you ask me. In my opinion he is a sloppy and dangerous wrestler. |
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Post by blissfan4life on Aug 10, 2017 21:27:54 GMT -5
Pretty bad track record... how? If that were so, he probably would've gained a much worse rep for doing it in Japan, where he worked for a much stiffer style for over a decade, no? The reality of the situation is, he's been transitioning from working the Strong Style in Japan, which guys in America aren't nearly used to, and in the case of Aries and Joe, probably let himself go and put too much behind his strikes. Asuka also has injured people in NXT with her stiff kicks - including legit KO'ing Emma, but I don't see anyone saying she's sloppy. AJ knocked out Miz's tooth with a stiff spinning backfist after coming over from Japan, but nobody would ever say he's sloppy. Just look at the list of people he has injured in his time with NXT and WWE.....That looks pretty bad if you ask me. In my opinion he is a sloppy and dangerous wrestler. Accidental injuries does not make someone sloppy or dangerous. Injuries are part of the game. |
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Post by marino13 on Aug 10, 2017 21:44:51 GMT -5
I goddamn agree with ThugSuperstar, what the everloving ?! You poor bastard. There's no help for you now, you must go into hiding. |
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Post by IRS on Aug 10, 2017 21:54:39 GMT -5
Pretty bad track record... how? If that were so, he probably would've gained a much worse rep for doing it in Japan, where he worked for a much stiffer style for over a decade, no? The reality of the situation is, he's been transitioning from working the Strong Style in Japan, which guys in America aren't nearly used to, and in the case of Aries and Joe, probably let himself go and put too much behind his strikes. Asuka also has injured people in NXT with her stiff kicks - including legit KO'ing Emma, but I don't see anyone saying she's sloppy. AJ knocked out Miz's tooth with a stiff spinning backfist after coming over from Japan, but nobody would ever say he's sloppy. Just look at the list of people he has injured in his time with NXT and WWE.....That looks pretty bad if you ask me. In my opinion he is a sloppy and dangerous wrestler. ... Two? |
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Post by torriefan4life on Aug 10, 2017 21:56:48 GMT -5
Just look at the list of people he has injured in his time with NXT and WWE.....That looks pretty bad if you ask me. In my opinion he is a sloppy and dangerous wrestler. Accidental injuries does not make someone sloppy or dangerous. Injuries are part of the game. Accidental injuries that seem to happen fairly often involving the same wrestler (who also is the one not getting hurt) actually does lead to that wrestler being looked at as dangerous & sloppy. That is how I view it anyways, I'm not going to argue about it but that is just how I see it. |
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Post by IRS on Aug 10, 2017 22:11:23 GMT -5
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