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Post by Bandalero on Sept 7, 2017 14:10:50 GMT -5
Sting wore so many different cool colors, I think it's a crime we've gotten multiple "crow" style stings now and not as many colorful Stings. I also really hate the smaller/skinnier legs they slap on him. Sting was a body builder, he is supposed to have a bigger torso, but Mattel thinks Sting skipped leg day. His legs are horrible and too small/thin. Crow sting... 1dm 1 elite 1 hof 1 bp 1 rsc 2 basic Surfer sting... 1 dm 1 tnf 1 ns basic 1 basic Its pretty even, unless im missing something. Not like a landslide. you are missing something 2 elite style Surfers is all we've gotten (and the second one isn't even his bleach blonde iconic flat top look) <-- that's a bloody landslide, not pretty even.
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Post by kennyw86 on Sept 7, 2017 14:45:25 GMT -5
Crow sting... 1dm 1 elite 1 hof 1 bp 1 rsc 2 basic Surfer sting... 1 dm 1 tnf 1 ns basic 1 basic Its pretty even, unless im missing something. Not like a landslide. you are missing something 2 elite style Surfers is all we've gotten (and the second one isn't even his bleach blonde iconic flat top look) <-- that's a bloody landslide, not pretty even. And all 7 crow stings arent elite either. 4 are. Again 4 to 2 isnt a huge thing. And while surfer sting might have some better attires, i think everyone needs to accept crow sting is just, well, better. And a figure not looking exactly how you want doesnt make it not count.
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Post by Bandalero on Sept 7, 2017 14:59:49 GMT -5
And all 7 crow stings arent elite either. 4 are. Again 4 to 2 isnt a huge thing. And while surfer sting might have some better attires, i think everyone needs to accept crow sting is just, well, better. And a figure not looking exactly how you want doesnt make it not count. oh kenny, it is a huge thing when elites are released at a snails pace - 4 series/year and if we're lucky some network spotlights/TNFs that don't necessarily guarantee flashbacks. At that rate we'll see the next elite surfer Sting in 2022 if we're lucky.
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Post by chowmeinkane on Sept 7, 2017 16:43:09 GMT -5
The network spotlight is the only good surfer sting we've gotten so far, basic or elite. Thats why im so anxious to get another, because they've finally nailed it imo.
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Post by qdogg on Sept 7, 2017 17:00:07 GMT -5
Ya I'm hoping we get a all new Surfer Sting in pink somewhere down the road or another neon color. We really need another Elite of him and another Razor Ramon as well.
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Post by kgchampion on Sept 7, 2017 17:46:51 GMT -5
I HATE the torso they used. To me so far both elites have been a bust because of that torso and those skinny ass legs. E23(?) DX HHH is a better body choice than what they chose for Surfer Sting.
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Post by cableV on Sept 7, 2017 18:00:48 GMT -5
In addition to the lack of Surfer Stings in the Mattel main lines, I'm annoyed by the lack of Surfer Stings in the other Mattel & Non-Mattel lines.
Retro - Crow Sting Pop Vinyl - Crow Sting x2 Mystery Minis - Crow Sting Jada Metal - Crow Sting Jada Metal Nano - Crow Sting Ninja Turtles - Crow Sting Teenymates - Crow Sting x2 Ooshies - Crow Sting x2
Some of the above lines are fairly new and there is certainly time to add a Surfer Sting to them, but can just one of them maybe start with a Surfer Sting?
I understand that Sting was "Crow Sting" during the most popular time in WCW/Wrestling history and to an entire generation of fans, Crow Sting is the Sting they grew up with and loved. However, there is another generation of fans that grew up with and loved Surfer Sting as well. It's very easy to satisfy both generations of fans, but I don't feel they are.
Another, more conspiracy theory way, to look at it is - Surfer Sting never worked for WWE, Crow Sting did. So in Vince's mind, Crow Sting(WCW or WWE version) is his, so that's the look he is going to promote.
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Post by doubled on Sept 7, 2017 18:54:15 GMT -5
I just want a decent Surfer Sting so bad!!
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Post by kennyw86 on Sept 7, 2017 19:48:54 GMT -5
And all 7 crow stings arent elite either. 4 are. Again 4 to 2 isnt a huge thing. And while surfer sting might have some better attires, i think everyone needs to accept crow sting is just, well, better. And a figure not looking exactly how you want doesnt make it not count. oh kenny, it is a huge thing when elites are released at a snails pace - 4 series/year and if we're lucky some network spotlights/TNFs that don't necessarily guarantee flashbacks. At that rate we'll see the next elite surfer Sting in 2022 if we're lucky. I feel what youre saying, because there are a lot of things i want that may never happen in this line. I just think it really does come down to crow sting being the better and more iconic look. Surfer sting was a pretty piece in wcw. Crow sting was wcw. I own 4 of the crow stings. I own all of the surfer stings. So i get it. I just see it like its his #2 gimmick, so its gonna be released less than the #1.
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Post by warriorheart on Sept 7, 2017 20:21:35 GMT -5
More Surfer Stings are what I want the most. It's just puzzling what small amount we've gotten so far. I'm done with the Crow versions. They all look pretty much the same to me and I have no desire for another, even though I know more are on the way.
His best ring work was during his Surfer days and it isn't even close. I guess they hold more value in his Crow days due to the Monday Night Wars, despite his best actual wrestling was behind him at that point. I guess Mattel thinks those will sell more. Who knows. Still annoying as a collector.
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Post by TheLastDude on Sept 7, 2017 20:31:06 GMT -5
One thing I think everyone's forgetting (and I say this as someone who wants a bajillion-fofillion-shabbadabbadillion colorful surfer Stings in my collection, and am bummed that I only have two because I dislike the craptacular TNF and DM figures), but black and white paint is oodles cheaper than pink, blue, yellow, and green.
Go back to the beginning of the line up until now. There are a lot more figures in black and white than any other color.
Now just look at the four surfer Stings we do have:
DM. Cost more than a regular figure.
TNF. Could only be purchased in a $50 3-pack.
NS basic. Most colorful figure in the wave. Everyone else is wearing...black and white.
Basic. One of two bright figures. Roman and Miz wore black, and Becky was in muted earth tones. Basic 62 was also a smaller five figure wave that was released in the middle of two other waves that consisted of nine and eight figures. Most likely to compensate for the fact that it had neon green Sting and Sin Cara in blue and yellow.
So, there you have it really. I'm sure we'll get more colorful Stings, but they'll either continue to cost more or come in waves of other figures wearing dark gear. So, it's just a waiting game.
I will say that I am disappointed that there is no Retro surfer Sting and also that Funko hasn't touched the look yet either. Those lines are made for colorful looks.
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Post by DZ: WF Legacy on Sept 7, 2017 20:54:48 GMT -5
They've got to change that torso and start using that new head. Lots of awesome attires to do for him.
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Post by Halloween King on Sept 8, 2017 1:52:30 GMT -5
Sting wore so many different cool colors, I think it's a crime we've gotten multiple "crow" style stings now and not as many colorful Stings. I also really hate the smaller/skinnier legs they slap on him. Sting was a body builder, he is supposed to have a bigger torso, but Mattel thinks Sting skipped leg day. His legs are horrible and too small/thin. Crow sting... 1dm 1 elite 1 hof 1 bp 1 rsc 2 basic Surfer sting... 1 dm 1 tnf 1 ns basic 1 basic Its pretty even, unless im missing something. Not like a landslide. You're missing a few crow stings. And one of the colorful stings was a transitional period sting. Where he was growing his hair out and didnt dye the hair. The thing about Sting is when you say Sting, not too many people think of WWE Sting, they think of NWA/WCW Sting. Or TNA Sting. We know they dont have the rights to TNA so we're left with NWA/WCW. And for the majority of his time at WCW/NWA Sting was colorful. And also Crow Sting is pretty much the same every time. Dark attire with Crow face paint, it's boring and repetitive. Where as with Surfer Sting every figure will have a new look to it and new colors. Surfer Sting is a very popular character, there's a reason why he was a Flagship character for WCW back in the day.
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Post by Nivro™ on Sept 10, 2017 2:14:01 GMT -5
I bought the 97 Sting, Wolfpac Sting and the HOF Sting (for a head swap) but Ill never purchase another Crow Sting. If its not Elite Surfer Sting, Im not buying it.
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Post by Vamp55 on Sept 10, 2017 3:29:24 GMT -5
Not sure why Mattel is holding back with Elite Surfer Stings. No doubt there should be more, lots more. MDT's line up choices recently and going forward (assuming the rumoured e54-60 are true) have left a lot to be desired.
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Post by Glorydaysofwrestling on Sept 10, 2017 8:48:28 GMT -5
I'm down for every elite pre-Crow Sting. Would love a blue Galoob remake, Beach Blast 92, purple, orange and on and on and on
Side note was Sting ever called "Surfer Sting"? I don't remember ever thinking of him as a surfer (I know he had a commercial with a surfboard at one point). Is it something the IWC coined some years ago?
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Post by PJ on Sept 10, 2017 11:36:13 GMT -5
No I don't ever recall him being called Surfer Sting, but his personality, being billed from Venice Beach CA and the bleached blond hair I guess made it look like he should be a surfer. So that is how people just started calling his two looks. Surfer Sting and Crow Sting.
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Post by Codyverse: Tag Team Champion on Sept 10, 2017 12:28:21 GMT -5
Mattel dropped the ball. Plain and simple.
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Post by Bandalero on Sept 10, 2017 12:37:33 GMT -5
I'm down for every elite pre-Crow Sting. Would love a blue Galoob remake, Beach Blast 92, purple, orange and on and on and on Side note was Sting ever called "Surfer Sting"? I don't remember ever thinking of him as a surfer (I know he had a commercial with a surfboard at one point). Is it something the IWC coined some years ago? Your right, his gimmick was never that of a surfer. I think it was coined by the IWC to distinguish this gimmick from the crow. He wasn't billed as Crow Sting either.
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Post by Nivro™ on Sept 10, 2017 13:23:23 GMT -5
I'm down for every elite pre-Crow Sting. Would love a blue Galoob remake, Beach Blast 92, purple, orange and on and on and on Side note was Sting ever called "Surfer Sting"? I don't remember ever thinking of him as a surfer (I know he had a commercial with a surfboard at one point). Is it something the IWC coined some years ago? It helps with google searches. Google Surfer Sting and you get pictures of Steve Borden pre 1997, Google Sting and you get images of a lead singer from a very horrible 80s band.
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