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Post by IRS on Nov 6, 2017 21:41:50 GMT -5
New Japan wants to expand and become a legitimate competitor to WWE. Jericho isn't under WWE contract, and is pissed that they wouldn't allow him to use NXT for the cruise. I see nothing pointing towards them doing business together. Jericho is under WWE contract though... No, he isn't. Every time he returns, he signs short-term deals. He is free and clear to do whatever he wants. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2017 22:08:23 GMT -5
Omega isn’t going to wrestle for WWE. The Buck sure as hell aren’t either. Don’t be ridiculous. The reason this is probably happening is because Jericho badly wants to wrestle Omega and knows it’ll never happen in WWE. Reading this made me realize just how many people Jericho has wrestled in his 25+ year career. From Hulk Hogan to now Kenny Omega and everyone else in between. It's insane. He made a name for himself and then made it his mission to wrestle everyone else who has a name too. Plus the fact that he keeps record of who he has faced is a cool little thing. When he retires he will have a hell of a list to hang his hat on. |
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Post by King Richius on Nov 6, 2017 23:00:36 GMT -5
I've got no dog in this fight because New Japan isn't something I'm interested in following anymore [for various reasons] but it's almost hysterical to see the hypocrisy of pro-wrestling fans. We're always seeing people s***ing on WWE for booking "part-time veterans" and "old talent" for the big shows like Wrestlemania. There is always the stance of WWE should book their current talent for Wrestlemania instead of relying on "old part-timers" and bumping the current guys off the show / down the card. People were upset when Goldberg won the championship and had a three pay-per-view stint with the company. Yet.. everyone is praising the holy hell out of New Japan booking 47-year old Chris Jericho to work their biggest show? Weird how that happens. Be excited for this match but nobody b*** the next time WWE throws a "old part-time" talent into the main event storyline. I would argue that it is a completely different situation. 1) NJPW is not nearly as big as the WWE. Jericho's presence on the card in a high profile match with Omega will do a lot to get them increased exposure in the North American market where they are trying to make inroads. Much the same reason they included Billy Gunn on the card when they came to the U.S. earlier this year. Bring the fans in with known entity so they get exposed to the NJPW regulars. 2) Jericho is not your typical part-timer/old fart. He isn't coming back for a nostalgia pop nor is he likely to get pushed over a regular roster wrestler nor is he likely to phone it in for the match. Jericho will give 100% against Omega to put on a good if not great match. It's not a forgone conclusion that he is going over simply because he is who he is. 3) I'm sure the main event of the show will still be Okada vs Naito for the NJPW belt, as it should be. Nobody is getting bumped down to make room for Jericho. |
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Post by IRS on Nov 6, 2017 23:15:19 GMT -5
I've got no dog in this fight because New Japan isn't something I'm interested in following anymore [for various reasons] but it's almost hysterical to see the hypocrisy of pro-wrestling fans. We're always seeing people s***ing on WWE for booking "part-time veterans" and "old talent" for the big shows like Wrestlemania. There is always the stance of WWE should book their current talent for Wrestlemania instead of relying on "old part-timers" and bumping the current guys off the show / down the card. People were upset when Goldberg won the championship and had a three pay-per-view stint with the company. Yet.. everyone is praising the holy hell out of New Japan booking 47-year old Chris Jericho to work their biggest show? Weird how that happens. Be excited for this match but nobody b*** the next time WWE throws a "old part-time" talent into the main event storyline. The reason people bitch about WWE doing it is because they've pretty much failed to create any credible new stars for over a decade. The three SHIELD guys are the closest thing they have, and they all could be much larger than they are with good booking. New Japan HAS new stars. They have Okada, Naito, Omega, and Ibushi. And they actively work to make new stars. Jay White is returning from excursion to face off with Tanahashi. WWE is forced to rely on the part-timers for every WM; New Japan isn't. This show would've sold already on the back of Naito/Okada, and Jericho/Omega is just the cherry on top. |
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Post by mightyone29 on Nov 7, 2017 1:14:07 GMT -5
Reading this made me realize just how many people Jericho has wrestled in his 25+ year career. From Hulk Hogan to now Kenny Omega and everyone else in between. It's insane. He made a name for himself and then made it his mission to wrestle everyone else who has a name too. Plus the fact that he keeps record of who he has faced is a cool little thing. When he retires he will have a hell of a list to hang his hat on. And that, is The List Of Jericho. Do you know what happens if Chris Jericho's hat doesn't want his list hung on it? Do you know what happens if his hat thinks his list will make it look too flamboyant or too dorky, or the best in the world? Do you? Chris Jericho's hat, "pen click", You Just Made The List! |
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Post by aggressiveperfector on Nov 7, 2017 1:27:49 GMT -5
I'm guessing his contract expired. Probably has to do with why we've been getting so many Y2J figures after barely getting any at the start of Mattel's run. Guess we can kiss that Best of Attitude Era Chris Jericho goodbye. |
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Post by The Natural Eddy Valintino on Nov 7, 2017 2:18:42 GMT -5
I've got no dog in this fight because New Japan isn't something I'm interested in following anymore [for various reasons] but it's almost hysterical to see the hypocrisy of pro-wrestling fans. We're always seeing people s***ing on WWE for booking "part-time veterans" and "old talent" for the big shows like Wrestlemania. There is always the stance of WWE should book their current talent for Wrestlemania instead of relying on "old part-timers" and bumping the current guys off the show / down the card. People were upset when Goldberg won the championship and had a three pay-per-view stint with the company. Yet.. everyone is praising the holy hell out of New Japan booking 47-year old Chris Jericho to work their biggest show? Weird how that happens. Be excited for this match but nobody b*** the next time WWE throws a "old part-time" talent into the main event storyline. The reason people bitch about WWE doing it is because they've pretty much failed to create any credible new stars for over a decade. The three SHIELD guys are the closest thing they have, and they all could be much larger than they are with good booking. New Japan HAS new stars. They have Okada, Naito, Omega, and Ibushi. And they actively work to make new stars. Jay White is returning from excursion to face off with Tanahashi. WWE is forced to rely on the part-timers for every WM; New Japan isn't. This show would've sold already on the back of Naito/Okada, and Jericho/Omega is just the cherry on top. This was actually well said, and i only follow NJPW to a point (until January 4) |
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Post by r44gz96 on Nov 7, 2017 2:49:53 GMT -5
Pretty insane this. Who would have thought this time last year that we'd be seeing Jericho vs Omega?
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Post by "Living Legend" Duttanized on Nov 7, 2017 3:02:32 GMT -5
I've got no dog in this fight because New Japan isn't something I'm interested in following anymore [for various reasons] but it's almost hysterical to see the hypocrisy of pro-wrestling fans. We're always seeing people s***ing on WWE for booking "part-time veterans" and "old talent" for the big shows like Wrestlemania. There is always the stance of WWE should book their current talent for Wrestlemania instead of relying on "old part-timers" and bumping the current guys off the show / down the card. People were upset when Goldberg won the championship and had a three pay-per-view stint with the company. Yet.. everyone is praising the holy hell out of New Japan booking 47-year old Chris Jericho to work their biggest show? Weird how that happens. Be excited for this match but nobody b*** the next time WWE throws a "old part-time" talent into the main event storyline. The reason people bitch about WWE doing it is because they've pretty much failed to create any credible new stars for over a decade. The three SHIELD guys are the closest thing they have, and they all could be much larger than they are with good booking. New Japan HAS new stars. They have Okada, Naito, Omega, and Ibushi. And they actively work to make new stars. Jay White is returning from excursion to face off with Tanahashi. WWE is forced to rely on the part-timers for every WM; New Japan isn't. This show would've sold already on the back of Naito/Okada, and Jericho/Omega is just the cherry on top. This would be true if Ibushi cared about taking NJPW seriously. Dude literally doesn't care to commit anywhere, that's probably why he's become a star on his own. Also, people are missing the fact that New Japan Tokyo Dome shows always had one or two major one-off appearances to make the show feel special. |
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Post by Boy Wonder on Nov 7, 2017 7:40:50 GMT -5
So do we get to see this live if we order New Japan World?
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Post by IRS on Nov 7, 2017 7:55:01 GMT -5
So do we get to see this live if we order New Japan World? Yes. Of course you'll have to be awake at like 2 or 3 AM. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2017 8:12:01 GMT -5
NJPW get Chris Jericho.
WWE ask for Toru Yano, in return.
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Post by punksnotdead on Nov 7, 2017 9:11:48 GMT -5
NJPW get Chris Jericho. WWE ask for Toru Yano, in return.  |
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Post by K5 on Nov 7, 2017 13:05:16 GMT -5
I've got no dog in this fight because New Japan isn't something I'm interested in following anymore [for various reasons] but it's almost hysterical to see the hypocrisy of pro-wrestling fans. We're always seeing people s***ing on WWE for booking "part-time veterans" and "old talent" for the big shows like Wrestlemania. There is always the stance of WWE should book their current talent for Wrestlemania instead of relying on "old part-timers" and bumping the current guys off the show / down the card. People were upset when Goldberg won the championship and had a three pay-per-view stint with the company. Yet.. everyone is praising the holy hell out of New Japan booking 47-year old Chris Jericho to work their biggest show? Weird how that happens. Be excited for this match but nobody b*** the next time WWE throws a "old part-time" talent into the main event storyline. The reason people bitch about WWE doing it is because they've pretty much failed to create any credible new stars for over a decade. The three SHIELD guys are the closest thing they have, and they all could be much larger than they are with good booking. New Japan HAS new stars. They have Okada, Naito, Omega, and Ibushi. And they actively work to make new stars. Jay White is returning from excursion to face off with Tanahashi. WWE is forced to rely on the part-timers for every WM; New Japan isn't. This show would've sold already on the back of Naito/Okada, and Jericho/Omega is just the cherry on top. this x100. njpw’s use of older stars cannot be compared to wwe’s absolute reliance on them and inability to create new stars. |
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Post by Back to the Codyverse on Nov 7, 2017 16:03:15 GMT -5
Omega? Check.
Match in Japan? Check.
Dave Meltzer to give it 5 star rating? TBD
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Post by Darkhawk on Nov 7, 2017 17:40:26 GMT -5
Very interesting to see this match go down. I'm sure Omega will pick up the win though.
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Post by marino13 on Nov 7, 2017 17:51:08 GMT -5
Omega? Check. Match in Japan? Check. Dave Meltzer to give it 5 star rating? TBD If the match happens in Japan: 7 stars Exact same match in WWE: 3 1/2 stars |
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Post by King Richius on Nov 7, 2017 17:52:33 GMT -5
Omega? Check. Match in Japan? Check. Dave Meltzer to give it 5 star rating? TBD If the match happens in Japan: 7 stars Exact same match in WWE: 3 1/2 stars The difference in camera work is worth at least one star. None of that nausea inducing fast zooming shaky cam in NJPW.  |
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Post by TheLastDude on Nov 7, 2017 18:00:43 GMT -5
Reading this made me realize just how many people Jericho has wrestled in his 25+ year career. From Hulk Hogan to now Kenny Omega and everyone else in between. It's insane. He made a name for himself and then made it his mission to wrestle everyone else who has a name too. Plus the fact that he keeps record of who he has faced is a cool little thing. When he retires he will have a hell of a list to hang his hat on. Huh, you got me thinking now. I wonder what the biggest names that he hasn't faced (and legitimately could have) are? Sting and Warrior? I think he's faced everyone else. |
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Post by Back to the Codyverse on Nov 7, 2017 18:11:41 GMT -5
Omega? Check. Match in Japan? Check. Dave Meltzer to give it 5 star rating? TBD If the match happens in Japan: 7 stars Exact same match in WWE: 3 1/2 stars This man gets it |
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