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Post by IRS on Nov 7, 2017 18:44:23 GMT -5
Omega? Check. Match in Japan? Check. Dave Meltzer to give it 5 star rating? TBD If the match happens in Japan: 7 stars Exact same match in WWE: 3 1/2 stars I mean, I know people love to joke about Meltzer's match ratings in Japan, but people do realize that two things he also factors into the ratings are the build and atmosphere of the match, right? And those are two things that NJPW far excels at over WWE. Which is also part of the reason Cena/Punk at MITB received 5 stars, and IIRC, is the last WWE match to do so. |
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Post by Back to the Codyverse on Nov 7, 2017 19:15:07 GMT -5
If the match happens in Japan: 7 stars Exact same match in WWE: 3 1/2 stars I mean, I know people love to joke about Meltzer's match ratings in Japan, but people do realize that two things he also factors into the ratings are the build and atmosphere of the match, right? And those are two things that NJPW far excels at over WWE. Which is also part of the reason Cena/Punk at MITB received 5 stars, and IIRC, is the last WWE match to do so. He didn't give either Taker-HBK WrestleMania match 5 stars. He must not take build and atmosphere into THAT much consideration. |
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Post by IRS on Nov 7, 2017 19:29:02 GMT -5
I mean, I know people love to joke about Meltzer's match ratings in Japan, but people do realize that two things he also factors into the ratings are the build and atmosphere of the match, right? And those are two things that NJPW far excels at over WWE. Which is also part of the reason Cena/Punk at MITB received 5 stars, and IIRC, is the last WWE match to do so. He didn't give either Taker-HBK WrestleMania match 5 stars. He must not take build and atmosphere into THAT much consideration. IIRC, his reasoning for the first was the botched dive spot took him out of the match. In any case, it's all one person's opinion, and he's never said that his ratings are fact or some golden rule. I think the people who read them take them far more seriously than he does. |
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Post by Back to the Codyverse on Nov 7, 2017 20:28:30 GMT -5
He didn't give either Taker-HBK WrestleMania match 5 stars. He must not take build and atmosphere into THAT much consideration. IIRC, his reasoning for the first was the botched dive spot took him out of the match. In any case, it's all one person's opinion, and he's never said that his ratings are fact or some golden rule. I think the people who read them take them far more seriously than he does. We actually just like to make fun of him about it |
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Post by BSR on Nov 7, 2017 20:33:16 GMT -5
IIRC, his reasoning for the first was the botched dive spot took him out of the match. In any case, it's all one person's opinion, and he's never said that his ratings are fact or some golden rule. I think the people who read them take them far more seriously than he does. We actually just like to make fun of him about it Meltzer is a moron. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2017 21:03:24 GMT -5
He made a name for himself and then made it his mission to wrestle everyone else who has a name too. Plus the fact that he keeps record of who he has faced is a cool little thing. When he retires he will have a hell of a list to hang his hat on. Huh, you got me thinking now. I wonder what the biggest names that he hasn't faced (and legitimately could have) are? Sting and Warrior? I think he's faced everyone else. Savage and Vader? I’d say names like Andre and Harley but they were done by the time he started. |
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Post by TheLastDude on Nov 7, 2017 21:36:51 GMT -5
Huh, you got me thinking now. I wonder what the biggest names that he hasn't faced (and legitimately could have) are? Sting and Warrior? I think he's faced everyone else. Savage and Vader? I’d say names like Andre and Harley but they were done by the time he started. Yeah, that works too. I guess the biggest names would be Sting, Warrior, Vader, and Savage. That's pretty wild. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2017 21:39:28 GMT -5
Savage and Vader? I’d say names like Andre and Harley but they were done by the time he started. Yeah, that works too. I guess the biggest names would be Sting, Warrior, Vader, and Savage. That's pretty wild. And Vader is still kinda possible. Unlikely, but still possible. |
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Post by Rated [R] NinJa on Nov 9, 2017 7:36:52 GMT -5
As a WWE fan I’m p*ssed off by this, as a Chris Jericho fan I’m excited. Jericho can no longer say that he is a WWE-loyalist but with this I don’t care because the Tokyo Dome Show is the only NJPW show I’ve watched since Styles/Nakamura. It would be amazing to hear Jericho walk down the aisle to “break the walls down” but it won’t be happening, regardless, people should just appreciate this for what it is. Rumours are that Jericho wanted him vs Omega to get a McCregor/Mayweather reaction and it kind of did. I can’t wait to see them go at it tbh.
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Post by bigshab421 on Nov 9, 2017 7:59:06 GMT -5
As a WWE fan I’m p*ssed off by this, as a Chris Jericho fan I’m excited. Jericho can no longer say that he is a WWE-loyalist but with this I don’t care because the Tokyo Dome Show is the only NJPW show I’ve watched since Styles/Nakamura. It would be amazing to hear Jericho walk down the aisle to “break the walls down” but it won’t be happening, regardless, people should just appreciate this for what it is. Rumours are that Jericho wanted him vs Omega to get a McCregor/Mayweather reaction and it kind of did. I can’t wait to see them go at it tbh. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2017 9:31:38 GMT -5
I know Jericho's gonna enter to Judas, but good god I hope he enters to this.
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Post by bigshab421 on Nov 9, 2017 11:49:41 GMT -5
The more I read about this, it just seems like Jericho giving WWE a middle finger for not working with him on the cruise. I can't say I blame him either. To be in talks to use NXT for 3 months, and then being told no by 3 random suits, probably was a massive sign of disrespect to Jericho.
The whole thing is awesome though. The little feud between Jericho/WWE and then Chris jumping to NJPW reminds me of the AE. Angle returns in ring, Jericho goes to NJPW......could a CM Punk return to wrestling be next?
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Post by IRS on Nov 9, 2017 15:58:54 GMT -5
The more I read about this, it just seems like Jericho giving WWE a middle finger for not working with him on the cruise. I can't say I blame him either. To be in talks to use NXT for 3 months, and then being told no by 3 random suits, probably was a massive sign of disrespect to Jericho. The whole thing is awesome though. The little feud between Jericho/WWE and then Chris jumping to NJPW reminds me of the AE. Angle returns in ring, Jericho goes to NJPW......could a CM Punk return to wrestling be next? *checks calendar for next PWG show* |
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Post by Rated [R] NinJa on Nov 9, 2017 21:30:11 GMT -5
As a WWE fan I’m p*ssed off by this, as a Chris Jericho fan I’m excited. Jericho can no longer say that he is a WWE-loyalist but with this I don’t care because the Tokyo Dome Show is the only NJPW show I’ve watched since Styles/Nakamura. It would be amazing to hear Jericho walk down the aisle to “break the walls down” but it won’t be happening, regardless, people should just appreciate this for what it is. Rumours are that Jericho wanted him vs Omega to get a McCregor/Mayweather reaction and it kind of did. I can’t wait to see them go at it tbh. I get what you’re tryna say but John Cena would never go to Japan, like I said rumours |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2017 22:22:58 GMT -5
I’ll definitely check it out, but Jericho matches haven’t been too great the last few years. If he didn’t have a classic with Styles, who is a better wrestler than Omega, then my hopes won’t be super high.
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Post by drifter on Nov 10, 2017 0:29:53 GMT -5
Reading this made me realize just how many people Jericho has wrestled in his 25+ year career. From Hulk Hogan to now Kenny Omega and everyone else in between. It's insane. He made a name for himself and then made it his mission to wrestle everyone else who has a name too. Plus the fact that he keeps record of who he has faced is a cool little thing. When he retires he will have a hell of a list to hang his hat on.I couldn't help myself  |
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Post by BROKEN on Nov 10, 2017 10:59:51 GMT -5
I would love to see Jericho walk down the ramp to his WWE theme. I loved the last two wrestlekingdom main events. This one could go down in history.
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Post by Boy Wonder on Nov 10, 2017 17:58:55 GMT -5
I'm hoping he uses his original WCW theme
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