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Post by Hulkster2001 on Nov 6, 2017 10:41:53 GMT -5
*WARNING! I LOVE BOTH WRESTLERS IN QUESTION! I’M JUST ASKING A QUESTION!*With that being said, who do you guys think is more important to wrestling? The Hulkster?   Or the Texas Rattlesnake?  
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Post by Lorenzo Alcazar on Nov 6, 2017 10:48:46 GMT -5
Hogan, easily Without Hogan there is no wrestling. And without Hogan, there is no nWo, there is no Attitude ERA, and there is no Stone Cold Steve Austin. Because without the nWo, Vince keeps giving us clowns, cowboys, garbage men, magicians, and all that other crap....maybe Faarooq would have gotten a partner who wore the same condom helmet instead of forming the NOD.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2017 11:04:22 GMT -5
Hogan.
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Post by havoc7179 on Nov 6, 2017 11:07:52 GMT -5
Hogan. He was responsible for 2 (TWO!) of the biggest booms in wrestling.
From my era, without Hogan, the mystery 3rd man of the nWo may have been Sting. Hogan would have easily dispatched of Hall, Nash and Sting since as a face he was kicking out of Vader Bombsa nd easily dispatching Ric Flair. As a heel, Hogan's beating of heroes made it more despicable. He's the reason the nWo caught fire. Had it been someone else, any momentum would have been lost ina a matter of weeks.
The popularity of the nWo caused WWE to respond with the Attitude Era. While Austin's popularity may have surged to ridiculously high levels, he was more of a response than an original creation. Prior to hte nWo, Austin was a heel in WWE. No way he would have been given a face run without WWE seeing how "bad edgy guys" could be good guys or hugely popular with fans.
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Post by Nivro™ on Nov 6, 2017 11:22:37 GMT -5
Hogan. He was responsible for 2 (TWO!) of the biggest booms in wrestling. From my era, without Hogan, the mystery 3rd man of the nWo may have been Sting. Hogan would have easily dispatched of Hall, Nash and Sting since as a face he was kicking out of Vader Bombsa nd easily dispatching Ric Flair. As a heel, Hogan's beating of heroes made it more despicable. He's the reason the nWo caught fire. Had it been someone else, any momentum would have been lost ina a matter of weeks. The popularity of the nWo caused WWE to respond with the Attitude Era. While Austin's popularity may have surged to ridiculously high levels, he was more of a response than an original creation. Prior to hte nWo, Austin was a heel in WWE. No way he would have been given a face run without WWE seeing how "bad edgy guys" could be good guys or hugely popular with fans. Im glad someone else finally realizes that the last wrestling boom didnt just happen in WWE and in fact was started down south and was spearheaded by Hogan. Blind historians always want to thump their chests saying Austin this and Rock that but both were upper mid card guy while Hogan was transforming his character, pulling in MILLIONS and WCW was killing them in ratings. My personal belief, without Hogan's run in the 80s pro wrestling would still be held in armories, tiny arenas and circus side shows. |
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Post by robbutler01 on Nov 6, 2017 12:21:40 GMT -5
I have to agree with Hogan - as much as I'm a fan of stone cold.
Lifted wwf to new heights in the 80s and did the same for wcw 90s. You could definately argue that without hogan raising the bar in wcw Vince would have had no reason to change from the family friendly pre attitude wwe meaning there would potentially be no stone cold
Credit to Austin for helping reverse wwes fortunes though
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Post by hbkbigdaddycool on Nov 6, 2017 13:02:03 GMT -5
Definitely Hulk Hogan.
Like others said, Hogan was the man who made wrestling big in 1984 and in 1996.
The WWE didn't catch fire until early - mid 1998 with Steve Austin, but everyone was talking about WCW and the NWO with Hollywood Hogan from June 1996 until everyone switched in '98 to watching Stone Cold do his thing.
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Post by JokerFC on Nov 6, 2017 13:58:58 GMT -5
Hogan.
Austin is my guy but Hogan is THE guy. Nothing would have been possible without him and when wrestling was circling the drain in 1996 he turned it around again.
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Post by The Brain on Nov 6, 2017 17:11:18 GMT -5
Before I even clicked on this thread Hogan immediately came to mind.
You cannot mention Wrestling's boom periods without Hogan in the conversation.
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Post by TheLastDude on Nov 6, 2017 17:21:48 GMT -5
Absolutely, positively, hands down...Hogan.
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Post by Mark Martin on Nov 6, 2017 17:27:19 GMT -5
Hogan.
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Post by Emerald Enthusiast on Nov 7, 2017 0:36:10 GMT -5
Hogan meant more because he was Vince's centerpiece when Vince took pro wrestling national, and eventually global. Yet it's Vince that is really the most important person in the history of pro wrestling. Hogan, Austin, Rock...none of them would have had nearly the cultural impact that they had without the WWF/WWE machine behind them.
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Post by Back to the Codyverse on Nov 7, 2017 16:11:07 GMT -5
No Brainer. Hogan.
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Post by Hulkster2001 on Nov 13, 2017 8:11:46 GMT -5
It’s a clean sweep in the comments for the Hulkster!
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Post by alanpartridge on Nov 13, 2017 8:42:55 GMT -5
I'm going to say Stone Cold. In the year 2017 Stone Cold can still be featured as the cover of a video game and it will be sold well. Even if Hogan hadn't have had the the racism scandal and he was the cover star of WWE 2K16 it might not have sold well to casual fans.
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Post by PJ on Nov 14, 2017 8:46:37 GMT -5
I think if Hogan was on the cover of the 2k16 game would have sold just as well with the casual fans as Austin on the cover did.
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Post by K5 on Nov 14, 2017 11:33:01 GMT -5
hulk hogan for sure, but anyone that thinks wrestling wouldn’t have had a boom without him really needs to rethink things imo. Vince had the vision, Hogan was the cherry on top. would the boom have been as big without hogan? unlikely. but trying to say wrestling never would have expanded to national and international markets is ridiculous - wrestling was nationally aired before McMahon too, and wrestling was amazingly popular from the 50s up until the early 90s.
wrestling is a commodity that naturally switches from a live event to television programming. it’s a no brainer for tv - action, drama, etc.
to claim we owe hogan for wrestling is just embarrassingly inaccurate.
and I am still of the opinion that while 80s wwf is great to watch and a fun cartoon ride, it did more to damage wrestling than anything. turned it into a steroid and cocaine fueled cartoon. the south kept things real the best they could despite this but the damage was done.
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Post by robbutler01 on Nov 14, 2017 12:55:26 GMT -5
I'm going to say Stone Cold. In the year 2017 Stone Cold can still be featured as the cover of a video game and it will be sold well. Even if Hogan hadn't have had the the racism scandal and he was the cover star of WWE 2K16 it might not have sold well to casual fans. Sorry cant agree here. Its not really a fair comparison as stone cold became big long after hogan was a household name. You can argue he may be more "relevant" to newer fans but Hogan was big from 84 to 2000 and still had fuel in the tank for his wwe returns in 02 03 etc and to a lesser degree tna more recently. Stone cold was big from 97 to 2003 and while he still has name value now so does hogan who has 13 yrs at least more time as a big name. |
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Post by tg11 on Nov 14, 2017 12:58:30 GMT -5
As much as I hate Hogan and I do more than life itself...he is the reason why wrestling became mainstream I won't deny that but Austin he made wrestling popular he made it entertaining and he put on better matches in ring and outside the ring Austin certainly conducted himself a lot better than Hogan has or ever will
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Post by 👑🇵🇭⭐️ on Nov 14, 2017 13:05:26 GMT -5
I think if Hogan was on the cover of the 2k16 game would have sold just as well with the casual fans as Austin on the cover did. If the cover was just this...  ...it would have sold the same amount. |
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