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Post by SodaGuy on Nov 9, 2017 0:00:18 GMT -5
Gee, if only someone in WWE listened to Cornette when he said he'd heard from the previous two ROH booking administrations about how hard those two were to work with when they don't get their way. Nah.. he's just a bitter old man who wants to yell and bitch about everything. This is the first real report of them being hard to work with since the bitter old man who really just wants to yell and bitch about everything. So...... "They might've been hard to work with in Ring of Honor but they've been fine in WWE especially while Kevin was getting pushed. Sure, now they're hard to work since they're not getting their way! But they were fine most of the time.." is some ass backwards logic.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2017 0:09:09 GMT -5
This is the first real report of them being hard to work with since the bitter old man who really just wants to yell and bitch about everything. So...... "They might've been hard to work with in Ring of Honor but they've been fine in WWE especially while Kevin was getting pushed. Sure, now they're hard to work since they're not getting their way! But they were fine most of the time.." is some ass backwards logic.
Jim seemed the only one that had issues with the two in ROH, while most in ROH had issues with Jim. So one report repeated over and over again on dirt sheets saying they were sent home for being hard to work with meaning Cornette was right, is much more “ass backwards.”
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Post by SodaGuy on Nov 9, 2017 0:32:02 GMT -5
"They might've been hard to work with in Ring of Honor but they've been fine in WWE especially while Kevin was getting pushed. Sure, now they're hard to work since they're not getting their way! But they were fine most of the time.." is some ass backwards logic.
Jim seemed the only one that had issues with the two in ROH, while most in ROH had issues with Jim. So one report repeated over and over again on dirt sheets saying they were sent home for being hard to work with meaning Cornette was right, is much more “ass backwards.” Adam Pearce told Cornette they were hard to work with and Gabe warned Pearce about them before he took the job as a booker. Davey Richards had issues with dropping the belt to Owens, too. So.. Jim wasn't the only one that had issues with them in ROH. Jim told people they were hard to work with. WWE has sent them home for being hard to work with. That's not ass backwards. That's the definition of "Cornette was right" if I've ever seen one.
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Post by Darkhawk on Nov 9, 2017 1:00:08 GMT -5
Seems like a work for them to screw over Smackdown at Survivor Series.
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Post by BSR on Nov 9, 2017 1:12:57 GMT -5
Really though.. they have no business being beat down by new day.
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Post by finnbalor1 on Nov 9, 2017 1:17:38 GMT -5
Just like a lot of others have said seems like a angle for them to screw Smackdown at SS maybe Stephanie getting KO to do it for her and come back to Raw
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Post by IRS on Nov 9, 2017 1:57:21 GMT -5
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Post by robbutler01 on Nov 9, 2017 5:51:25 GMT -5
Surely if this was work or part of an angle the wwe would have commented or made more of big deal out if it all
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Post by blissfan4life on Nov 9, 2017 7:52:53 GMT -5
"Buried" " class="smile"> Don’t be surprised. 9/10 times, this kid has no idea what he’s talking about. From what I’ve been reading elsewhere, Steen has said he left for family issues. I️ could easily see WWE pulling both for storyline purposes. I’ll be on #TeamWork for this one. Haha Can nobody read around here? I am a girl, Not a guy.
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Post by blissfan4life on Nov 9, 2017 7:54:55 GMT -5
Jim seemed the only one that had issues with the two in ROH, while most in ROH had issues with Jim. So one report repeated over and over again on dirt sheets saying they were sent home for being hard to work with meaning Cornette was right, is much more “ass backwards.” Adam Pearce told Cornette they were hard to work with and Gabe warned Pearce about them before he took the job as a booker. Davey Richards had issues with dropping the belt to Owens, too. So.. Jim wasn't the only one that had issues with them in ROH. Jim told people they were hard to work with. WWE has sent them home for being hard to work with. That's not ass backwards. That's the definition of "Cornette was right" if I've ever seen one.
I'd be hard to work with too if Told I had to make three morons look good.
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Post by TheSystem 1.5 on Nov 9, 2017 7:56:42 GMT -5
Threads like this are why this sites falling off a cliff
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Post by theoutlaw1999 on Nov 9, 2017 8:00:55 GMT -5
Adam Pearce told Cornette they were hard to work with and Gabe warned Pearce about them before he took the job as a booker. Davey Richards had issues with dropping the belt to Owens, too. So.. Jim wasn't the only one that had issues with them in ROH. Jim told people they were hard to work with. WWE has sent them home for being hard to work with. That's not ass backwards. That's the definition of "Cornette was right" if I've ever seen one.
I'd be hard to work with too if Told I had to make three morons look good.
Put it like this. Imagine if DX or the nWo got beatdown by a mid card stable when they first formed? It would've made them lose credibility and I bet HHH and Shawn Michaels at the time would've downright refused. Sami and Kevin were only protecting themselves.
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Post by Mr Wrestling Jr. on Nov 9, 2017 8:53:04 GMT -5
So because KO and Sami were sent home due to something involving New Day we suddenly hate New Day?
Alright good meeting guys.
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Post by havoc7179 on Nov 9, 2017 9:30:03 GMT -5
I tried thinking logically about Neville's situation once, and it seemed to be completely wrong, but let's try it here.
KO already left one tour to deal with personal family things. It is possible this is happening again and the "journalists" got it wrong.
KO is a huge huge huge family man. I can't imagine him doing something asinine to the point where it might impact his ability to generate a well paying salary. Yes, I'm sure there are some of you that will argue that he could make more on the Indys, but the pay isn't guaranteed, won't necessarily be as much as he's making now or could make in the future while being with WWE, and his travel is more certain here than in the Indys. WWE follows a path. Indy bookings can have him one day in Topeka and the next day in Miami. It's scattered.
As for Sami. I got nothing.
If this report is true, it's their egos that killed them. New Day is currently (according to dirt sheets) going to be facing the Shield at SS. They need to really solidify New Day as a viable threat. Yes, they've held multipe W W E Tag team Championships (said in Xavier's voice), but as my fiance always mentions, they're clowns. Why would clowns be a challenge for a team that could destroy an entire locker room at one point? KO and Sami needed to put them over big time.
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Post by The Natural Eddy Valintino on Nov 9, 2017 9:55:15 GMT -5
I tried thinking logically about Neville's situation once, and it seemed to be completely wrong, but let's try it here. KO already left one tour to deal with personal family things. It is possible this is happening again and the "journalists" got it wrong. KO is a huge huge huge family man. I can't imagine him doing something asinine to the point where it might impact his ability to generate a well paying salary. Yes, I'm sure there are some of you that will argue that he could make more on the Indys, but the pay isn't guaranteed, won't necessarily be as much as he's making now or could make in the future while being with WWE, and his travel is more certain here than in the Indys. WWE follows a path. Indy bookings can have him one day in Topeka and the next day in Miami. It's scattered. As for Sami. I got nothing. If this report is true, it's their egos that killed them. New Day is currently (according to dirt sheets) going to be facing the Shield at SS. They need to really solidify New Day as a viable threat. Yes, they've held multipe W W E Tag team Championships (said in Xavier's voice), but as my fiance always mentions, they're clowns. Why would clowns be a challenge for a team that could destroy an entire locker room at one point? KO and Sami needed to put them over big time. Perfect, logical response. And also, they could have professionally disagreed and tried to get it changed to where both parties could have looked good, but they chose the unprofessional route. You do make a good observation about KO based on how he left one tour, though they wouldn't have also sent Sami home, which you did say.
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Post by ~*Young $ Money*~ on Nov 9, 2017 10:31:31 GMT -5
I don't know the truth or what really happened but if this is just an angle for them to turn on smackdown, that is lazy booking
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Post by J12 on Nov 9, 2017 10:48:25 GMT -5
Nearly every credible source is reporting that they were sent home and people still don't believe it just because it comes from "dirt sheets"? Come on. As I've said before, the need to dismiss any story that arises has gotten to be a weird obsession around here.
Anyway, both Owens and Zayn have a history of being hard to work with when they don't agree with creative direction. This is a little surprising just because they haven't been reprimanded for it to date, but the stories were out there when both of them got hired. There's nothing far fetched about this at all. Couple that with the fact that they were scheduled to work the rest of the tour (and are both integral parts of Smackdown, especially Owens), and this becomes increasingly easier to believe.
With that being said, it doesn't seem severe enough to warrant punishment beyond what they've already done. I'd guess it's business as usual come next week.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2017 10:51:06 GMT -5
I don't think they will be fired, but may be doing jobs for awhile.
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Post by marino13 on Nov 9, 2017 10:53:15 GMT -5
You also have to consider that Owens was flown home during the tour. Triple H worked the matches but let Owens keep the pay. So you'd think he'd have less to complain about than just about anyone else on the roster. And Sami was just on the E&C podcast talking about how Vince is a genius. And he seemed like he was very happy in his new role.
All that being said...
I'm not going to get too caught up in this till there is more detail. I mean, look at how badly the whole Nia Jax thing got blown out of proportion. So until there's more info, I'm just going to relax.
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Post by havoc7179 on Nov 9, 2017 10:58:00 GMT -5
I tried thinking logically about Neville's situation once, and it seemed to be completely wrong, but let's try it here. KO already left one tour to deal with personal family things. It is possible this is happening again and the "journalists" got it wrong. KO is a huge huge huge family man. I can't imagine him doing something asinine to the point where it might impact his ability to generate a well paying salary. Yes, I'm sure there are some of you that will argue that he could make more on the Indys, but the pay isn't guaranteed, won't necessarily be as much as he's making now or could make in the future while being with WWE, and his travel is more certain here than in the Indys. WWE follows a path. Indy bookings can have him one day in Topeka and the next day in Miami. It's scattered. As for Sami. I got nothing. If this report is true, it's their egos that killed them. New Day is currently (according to dirt sheets) going to be facing the Shield at SS. They need to really solidify New Day as a viable threat. Yes, they've held multipe W W E Tag team Championships (said in Xavier's voice), but as my fiance always mentions, they're clowns. Why would clowns be a challenge for a team that could destroy an entire locker room at one point? KO and Sami needed to put them over big time. Perfect, logical response. And also, they could have professionally disagreed and tried to get it changed to where both parties could have looked good, but they chose the unprofessional route. You do make a good observation about KO based on how he left one tour, though they wouldn't have also sent Sami home, which you did say. yeah. It wouldn't make sense for Sami to be sent home if KO needed to leave for family issues. If it's a work, kudos WWE. You tricked the IWC and didn't have to put it on your social media pages. If it isn't a work (and it's likely to be real), they're idiots. Both are involved in one of the main storylines on SDL. KO has held the Universal Title, the US Title, IC title, NXT title, and had Cena put him over in his debut. He's wrestled a big mania match this year, and got to be the first person to blood Vince McMahon in years. He's done extremely well for being a wrestler who never fit the mold of what Vince wants (and KO knows that Vince didn't think his look was good as he has stated it in some documentary/interview). So, if he's unhappy with his spot, that's just CM PUNK sad. I have some "shrines" in my man cave. Mostly dedicated to Sting, AJ Styles, Becky and Alexa. I have some other autos as well of other professionals. My space is limited and I've been trying to figure what to scale back on. If these guys get fired or demoted or whatever for being idiots (if the story of them not having their egos in check holds true), looks like I'll finally have some space in my man cave again. I'm hoping its just the dirt sheets getting it wrong.
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