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Post by Medieval on Nov 10, 2017 11:20:21 GMT -5
I can live with the arm and ankle change. I actually prefer the ankles the new way and I wouldn't mind it on elites either. The only thing that I don't like is that the basic woman are actually basic now.
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Post by Chip on Nov 10, 2017 11:22:28 GMT -5
to be honest, the issue with the arms is that in the bigger picture its a step backwards. its like having something and getting it taken away.
we've been getting "modern" style WWE figures for almost 15 years now. Jakks started the concept of a swivel joint at the shoulder for the RA line. It made for easy customization and just added an extra layer of movement to otherwise basic figures.
Now Mattel is 7 years into their line and they decide to take it away. It doesn't matter if it's more realistic, it doesn't matter if it costs money etc. The real issue is that when something is a certain way for 7 years and it gets changed to something LESS its going to create an issue with people who have been collecting for a long time.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 10, 2017 11:33:42 GMT -5
The majority of us despise this arm articulation change. Unfortunately, the only thing we can do is NOT buy what we don't like. If you hate this change, don't buy them, it's the only way to get through to Mattel. It has to affect their bottom line. For those happy with these changes, why belittle the majority of us and our opinions.
Firstly, why do you hate the change? I'm interested to know.
Secondly, because the opinions in general amounted to a lot of embarrassing whinging. I don't care about the arms either way. It's just not important. But the reasons that people were throwing up were laughable at best.
Well for me, I display and play with my collection. I love changes that add to the figures, not ones that take away. So I would say I don't like the new arms because of play-ability and pose-ability sake. Try to put a microphone to a face with the new arms, it comes a bit short. Or try to pose some of your favorite submission holds, or action poses. That little bit of extra range, with the original arms, makes a better figure in my opinion. Now while I dislike the arms change. I think the leg articulation changes are worse and more unacceptable. Being that I have a large collection/investment of these figures, I believe my opinion has validity when it comes to changes. Personally I will not be purchasing any basics going forward, so these changes with save me some money. I just want a better product with more to offer, not one where they are taking away from it.
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Post by zartan666 on Nov 10, 2017 11:39:17 GMT -5
But how exactly is it something less? Your figures still have the same range of motion in the arms. Things like tattoos and any kind of arm design will look better. Prices stay the same because instead of raising prices for what you were getting, Mattel can save a few cents per figure by having to produce one less part.
The only loss here is in the ankle articulation. And let's be real, on basic figures it actually makes them harder to stand with the ankle joint. Without the Elite articulation in the hips to help balance the pose, those ankle joints are crap. So without them, Basic style figures will have a solid base to stand from. I may actually buy some Basic figures now.
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Post by WCWThunderRosa on Nov 10, 2017 11:58:55 GMT -5
If someone can show me a picture of basic 77 Finn doing his arm pose in a realistic manner, I'll stop complaining about these arms...
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Post by Deleted on Nov 10, 2017 12:03:21 GMT -5
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Post by WCWThunderRosa on Nov 10, 2017 14:07:22 GMT -5
His arms aren't even remotely close to being in the \o/ position
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Post by stinkfaceT on Nov 10, 2017 15:54:33 GMT -5
The arm movement doesn’t really bother me. I do mind the need for a torso crack to swap the upper arms now.
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Post by xtremebadass on Nov 10, 2017 16:10:23 GMT -5
I saw pics online and thought they looked very cheap. Like, forget about the actual articulation for a second...they LOOK bad. The armband painted on Finn's arm for example doesn't even have clean lines from everything I saw.
Then I saw them in person. Opinion didn't change. I know other lines have this articulation, but it just doesn't look right on Mattel WWE basic figures.
NOTE: Graves is tolerable because he has sleeves. The bare human arm with this articulation, at least the way Mattel executes it, just doesn't look right to me.
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Post by PJ on Nov 10, 2017 16:22:47 GMT -5
His arms aren't even remotely close to being in the \o/ position Is this pose you are asking about? ![](http://a67.tinypic.com/oa2lq8.jpg)
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Post by WCWThunderRosa on Nov 10, 2017 17:33:54 GMT -5
His arms aren't even remotely close to being in the \o/ position Is this pose you are asking about? ![](http://a67.tinypic.com/oa2lq8.jpg) That's like better I guess but it still looks like I'm looking at a TTL
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Post by TheChamp420 on Nov 10, 2017 17:55:14 GMT -5
I️ care more about the ankles.....therefore I️ will not buy basics anymore
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Post by disorder on Nov 10, 2017 18:01:12 GMT -5
15 people not buying figures anymore, won’t change Mattel’s decision.
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Post by maske2g on Nov 10, 2017 18:07:59 GMT -5
"More Realistic" yeah,I can totally rotate my arm 360 at the elbow. realistic my ass. double jointed people can... they can't in the upper bicep joint.....because they don't have one....
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Post by PJ on Nov 10, 2017 18:14:33 GMT -5
"More Realistic" yeah,I can totally rotate my arm 360 at the elbow. realistic my ass. Wait! So that will be your argument...that you can't rotate your are 360° at your elbow?! That's an issue for you, but by that logic you are saying can rotate your arm 360° at the bicep. I want to see that.
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Post by thehasbrohunter on Nov 10, 2017 18:50:17 GMT -5
"More Realistic" yeah,I can totally rotate my arm 360 at the elbow. realistic my ass. Wait! So that will be your argument...that you can't rotate your are 360° at your elbow?! That's an issue for you, but by that logic you are saying can rotate your arm 360° at the bicep. I want to see that. I should've worded that differently. My argument is how many people can rotate their arm at the elbow WITHOUT rotating the rest of their arm? Can you keep your bicep completely straight while,for example,laying your arm against a table?
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Post by thehasbrohunter on Nov 10, 2017 18:54:43 GMT -5
As a matter of fact,by this logic ![](https://i.infopls.com/images/ency131joints002.jpg) the figures should have a ball jointed shoulder,if your going for realism that is.
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Post by PJ on Nov 10, 2017 19:13:38 GMT -5
The shoulder is the same exact design as the original basics and elites. All that changed is they lowered the upper arm articulation to the elbow area.
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Post by King Richius on Nov 10, 2017 19:27:36 GMT -5
To the people complaining and in extreme cases swearing off basics forever - or until their favorite wrestler in their favorite attire is released as a basic only: ![](https://i.pinimg.com/736x/00/aa/cc/00aaccf43f83ab3e7cae3bee75f86f08--first-world-problems-meme-problem-meme.jpg)
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Post by Deleted on Nov 10, 2017 19:34:05 GMT -5
I’m so happy you’ve cleared everyone’s issue with the shoddy new basics by belittling our opinions and putting your opinion first as if it were scripture or something. And I'm sorry that the now generation are going to be constantly disappointed in life.
What’s a now generation? All it comes down to is different strokes for different blokes. Some people think the new basics are a leap backwards and are not worth the money anymore because who wants to pay the same for less? And some people think they are great and wonderful and whatever. It doesn’t mean that because people have complained that they are wrong or stupid or anything it just means we have a complaint. Similarly people like you who think they are just as good as before are better or more right or more valid in what you say. Opinions are like ass holes, everyone has one but not everyone needs to show theirs off.
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