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Post by theaxehennig on Feb 7, 2018 8:58:25 GMT -5
It's amazing to me how cheap people are when it comes to custom pieces. That was my thought. Someone had to actually create these (something no one else has done). People act like you can just go elsewhere for these. Last I checked, Hasbro NEVER released IC or Tag belts. Also, who else sells these? I was shocked he was only charging $12 each. I would have paid MUCH more for these.
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Post by MKSavage on Feb 7, 2018 8:59:41 GMT -5
I agree with Dr. Nick, the colored WWF Wingled Eagle Titles look great. Can't wait to see the finished product, the renderings look great. Would also like to see a White, Blue, Yellow, and Gold IC Titles. One of the main things lacking from the Hasbro line was a lack of title belts. Would have loved if the KOTR ring would have come with the IC and Tag Team Titles to match the World Title that came with the blue rings. Or if Hasbro would have randomly given Mr. Perfect or Bret Hart or Shawn Michaels a IC Title and Legion of Doom or the Nasty Boys or Demolition the Tag Titles. I have always liked the design of the titles from that era 1987-1998, the Wingled Eagle, Intercontinental, and Tag Team titles from that era are still my favorite designs. Since they went back to the classic IC title, I wish WWE would go back to the classic Tag Team titles that the Hart Foundation, Demolition, Legion of Doom, Steiners, etc. wore, it is a much better design the the current belts. I also, liked the WCW replacement World Title and their US Title during that period. Don't really like WWE's US title. Totally agree, looking back I can't understand why they didn't capitalize on more accessories mainly a blue cage and the other belts. To put the extra belts in with the rings, or with LOD, Demolition, Bret, Shawn, Perfect etc. Even throwing the tags in with a tag team to help boost sales of those figures. I could imagine even the Headshrinkers selling good just to get the tag belts. I agree, it would have been awesome if they made a steel cage set to go with the rings. Would of loved to have had that as a kid. Plus, would have been cool if they made those ring carts that they used at a few of the Mania's as well.
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Post by theaxehennig on Feb 7, 2018 9:07:32 GMT -5
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Post by jsmells on Feb 7, 2018 10:09:14 GMT -5
It's amazing to me how cheap people are when it comes to custom pieces. So there's a few things to keep in mind here. Most people aren't looking at these and going "these were hand crafted one by one and hand cast and took hours to paint etc. I get it!" they're looking at something that (not knocking the look) look like they were produced by a machine with 1 color material (black) and some gold paint. AKA- They look like mass produced machine made conveyor belt goods. Most people, then, jump to the conclusion they should be cheap as that is the normal situation for mass produced plastic items. Now, I'm sure there's more to it, but don't just say "IT'S CUSTOM YOU GUYS R DUM!" (I'm simplifying, you didn't say that, but that's how it feels to someone who might not get your point.) They have that perspective for a reason. If these had some explanation behind the production and insight to the costs, more people might not complain about the price. It's not like these look like one-off hand assembled, air brushed masterpieces. They look like 1 piece of black rubber and gold paint. I understand that with low runs of things, especially home made with or without machine assistance, things get pricier. But not everyone gets that. OR even knows what goes into them. That said, it's the seller/creators duty to explain that better in order to better push their product. There are, of course, many who see it and say "I don't care, these look great, sign me up!" but to get the most sales possible the seller/creator should also try to snare those on the fence due to the perceived high price with an explanation of creation, costs and work. To just assume the consumer will "get it" is as ignorant as the consumer just assuming these will be $4 a pop when they're NOT made in large, mass quantities at some factory sweat shop in Asia. TL;DR The creator HAS to assume the consumer knows NOTHING and needs to sell their product not only by looks but with an explanation of manufacturing to help potential consumers understand WHY they would pay more for something of this nature.
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Post by MKSavage on Feb 7, 2018 10:17:02 GMT -5
Wow! Those look great on the figures. Where do you purchase them from?
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Post by 👑🇵🇭⭐️ on Feb 7, 2018 10:17:02 GMT -5
I would like the Undisputed WWE World Championship Title Belt. I think that would look great with the black and gold color scheme.
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Post by guster on Feb 7, 2018 10:35:30 GMT -5
It's amazing to me how cheap people are when it comes to custom pieces. So there's a few things to keep in mind here. Most people aren't looking at these and going "these were hand crafted one by one and hand cast and took hours to paint etc. I get it!" they're looking at something that (not knocking the look) look like they were produced by a machine with 1 color material (black) and some gold paint. AKA- They look like mass produced machine made conveyor belt goods. Most people, then, jump to the conclusion they should be cheap as that is the normal situation for mass produced plastic items. Now, I'm sure there's more to it, but don't just say "IT'S CUSTOM YOU GUYS R DUM!" (I'm simplifying, you didn't say that, but that's how it feels to someone who might not get your point.) They have that perspective for a reason. If these had some explanation behind the production and insight to the costs, more people might not complain about the price. It's not like these look like one-off hand assembled, air brushed masterpieces. They look like 1 piece of black rubber and gold paint. I understand that with low runs of things, especially home made with or without machine assistance, things get pricier. But not everyone gets that. OR even knows what goes into them. That said, it's the seller/creators duty to explain that better in order to better push their product. There are, of course, many who see it and say "I don't care, these look great, sign me up!" but to get the most sales possible the seller/creator should also try to snare those on the fence due to the perceived high price with an explanation of creation, costs and work. To just assume the consumer will "get it" is as ignorant as the consumer just assuming these will be $4 a pop when they're NOT made in large, mass quantities at some factory sweat shop in Asia. TL;DR The creator HAS to assume the consumer knows NOTHING and needs to sell their product not only by looks but with an explanation of manufacturing to help potential consumers understand WHY they would pay more for something of this nature. Hi. You might not be aware, but I sell my own version of custom belts (nothing like this, a very different style). They aren't cheap. I get inquires almost daily and even when I explain the reasoning behind my prices, I still get "$XX for a piece of plastic?!" This isn't just limited to belts. I made a Mattel Booker T figure circa 1998. It involved 3 different figures to make + sculpting + a custom belt. I had people contacting me offering $30, $25, $40, and so on. If you take 5 seconds to think, you'd realize that this figure has about $30-40 of parts alone invested in it, nevermind the sculpting and the custom belt included. People are just cheap and expect more for less.
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Post by jsmells on Feb 7, 2018 11:57:14 GMT -5
Hi. You might not be aware, but I sell my own version of custom belts (nothing like this, a very different style). They aren't cheap. I get inquires almost daily and even when I explain the reasoning behind my prices, I still get "$XX for a piece of plastic?!" This isn't just limited to belts. I made a Mattel Booker T figure circa 1998. It involved 3 different figures to make + sculpting + a custom belt. I had people contacting me offering $30, $25, $40, and so on. If you take 5 seconds to think, you'd realize that this figure has about $30-40 of parts alone invested in it, nevermind the sculpting and the custom belt included. People are just cheap and expect more for less. Well yes, people are cheap. That's not being contested. BUT I think MORE people would be willing to buy these, and your belts (I've seen them, they're nice) if there was more emphasis on the creation. There's ALWAYS going to be that "Never gonna buy it unless it's $X because I'm cheap" customer. Always. But there's ALWAYS an on the fence group who want more info and if it's valid to them they'll buy. So explaining is part of marketing. No successful company just says "yeah, here's this computer, it's nice right?" No. They need to sell it. Why is it nice? What makes it worth that money? What does this or that mean? Why is my money as a customer going to you? It's more than just "look at it!" That's why there are advertisers. They take that information and doll it up and hook people. Some will ALWAYS be too cheap, and that's just life, but there's ALWAYS that group who can get snared in with some song and dance and an explanation of product.
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Post by Ruby Fusion on Feb 7, 2018 14:19:29 GMT -5
Since I locked the enamel pin topic for copyright issues I'll do the same here.
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