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Post by mrhoss on Feb 15, 2018 12:22:07 GMT -5
Honestly, who knows what they were able to spend for these exclusives. The macho is just a straight repaint of the UM savage (nothing wrong with that) and this michaels figure is missing things. Probably has something to do with the deal they made with GameStop They probably should have went with a more budget friendly HBK. I doubt GS demanded a Raninbow Rocker. IMO, it's embarrassingly bad.
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Post by kennyw86v2 on Feb 15, 2018 12:29:23 GMT -5
They ain't hurting for money. I say it all the time, and people always get mad, but if you can't afford it at whatever price it is available to you, you can't afford it. If its 100 bucks on eBay, and that's outta your range, live without it. Either by just not having it or finding a more suitable hobby to your funds. Not pointing just at you, just in general. But even if someone chooses to pay scalpers, then it's still lost revenue on Mattel's part. That's the point I'm trying to make. No business looks at it's profit margins and says "we've made too much money" Not really though. The scalper bought the product. Mattel can't just charge 80 bucks because the scalpers will. As long as someone bought the figure Mattel didn't lose out.
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Post by stc13 on Feb 15, 2018 12:33:45 GMT -5
Honestly, who knows what they were able to spend for these exclusives. The macho is just a straight repaint of the UM savage (nothing wrong with that) and this michaels figure is missing things. Probably has something to do with the deal they made with GameStop It's almost a given that these store exclusive lines have smaller budgets. That is/was my biggest concern with Elites moving out of the main line. Store exclusives have smaller print runs, which means higher per piece costs to design and produce, while retailers and buyers still expect Mattel to meet the same price point. Something has to give. Of the 2018 store exclusive flashbacks we've seen so far, I think the only new tooling we've seen are the Undertaker and Eddie Guerrero heads in HoC and the legwarmers and top piece on this Michaels. Mean Gene's tooling was already completed for the cancelled build-a-figure set, and everything else has been a repaint. Not saying that's a terrible thing, but I do think Bill is doing more with less.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2018 12:43:16 GMT -5
It’s even more brilliant as my name is actually Jay!
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Post by Lyle_The_Intern on Feb 15, 2018 12:46:44 GMT -5
The Michaels figure is really, really bad. That's admittedly one of my favorite gear sets of all time, but the execution is pretty abysmal. The appeal of that gear is its intricacy and color, so doing it without either thing is sort of pointless. That would definitely be my number one rockers gear if they could afford to do it correctly, but I would have preferred virtually any other style to what they ended up giving us. The black/neon gear from Mania 7 might've been a good compromise.
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Post by Xæro #FakeCollector on Feb 15, 2018 12:49:01 GMT -5
But even if someone chooses to pay scalpers, then it's still lost revenue on Mattel's part. That's the point I'm trying to make. No business looks at it's profit margins and says "we've made too much money" Not really though. The scalper bought the product. Mattel can't just charge 80 bucks because the scalpers will. As long as someone bought the figure Mattel didn't lose out. Good point actually lol
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2018 12:51:28 GMT -5
Not really though. The scalper bought the product. Mattel can't just charge 80 bucks because the scalpers will. As long as someone bought the figure Mattel didn't lose out. Good point actually lol The whole myth surrounding so called scalpers in nonsense. In 9 Times out of 10 high priced figures are being sold by collectors and not someone who specially went out to make money on them.
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Post by PJ on Feb 15, 2018 13:11:17 GMT -5
The whole myth surrounding so called scalpers in nonsense. In 9 Times out of 10 high priced figures are being sold by collectors and not someone who specially went out to make money on them. Wrong. If they picked up a brand new figure just to sell it at a higher price then they are scalpers. I don’t care if they have a collection or not. Please don’t give me the lame excuse of the are doing it to support their collection. Or that nobody forced someone to pay that price. Because if they wanted to support their collection they would buy the figure they need in their collection and leave the figure they bought for the purpose of selling for another collector. But they didin’t...and whole reason they didn’t put a close to retail “buy it now “ option on it is because they wanted it to go in a bidding war. So yes they are scalping. But it doesn’t help that people actually pay these scalper prices on EBay. Now if a collector decides for whatever reason to sell off his collection that is a different story. But to pick a new figure up at mass retail just to sell it is scalping.
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Post by Xæro #FakeCollector on Feb 15, 2018 13:11:47 GMT -5
The whole myth surrounding so called scalpers in nonsense. In 9 Times out of 10 high priced figures are being sold by collectors and not someone who specially went out to make money on them. Most of what I see are store exclusives being sold at ridiculous prices. The NXT Elite Bobby Roode for example would cost me over $100 on eBay once shipping and import fees are calculated. Almost went for it, but thankfully the Entrance Greats was shown in time to stop me.
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Post by PJ on Feb 15, 2018 13:16:03 GMT -5
My God that other guy was right you don’t read. I said if someone goes to the store and purchased a brand new figure to resell they are scalping. But if a collector decides to sell off parts of his own collection then that was a different story. lol
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Post by PJ on Feb 15, 2018 13:22:00 GMT -5
Wrong. If they picked up a brand new figure just to sell it at a higher price then they are scalpers. I don’t care if they have a collection or not. Please don’t give me the lame excuse of the are doing it to support their collection. Or that nobody forced someone to pay that price. Because if they wanted to support their collection they would buy the figure they need in their collection and leave the figure they bought for the purpose of selling for another collector. But they didin’t...and whole reason they didn’t put a close to retail “buy it now “ option on it is because they wanted it to go in a bidding war. So yes they are scalping. But it doesn’t help that people actually pay these scalper prices on EBay. Now if a collector decides for whatever reason to sell off his collection that is a different story. But to pick a new figure up at mass retail just to sell it is scalping. So if someone is selling off their collection you think they should list them at retail price to ensure they don’t upset anyone? It’s pathetic. Ringside sell figures for more than retail, most of the time. Because they get them early from China blah blah blah is bs. The only reason people pay high prices is to be the first to own it. That’s why prices go mad for those selling figures before the hit retail everywhere. The vast majority of figures being bought and sold for high prices are not figures bought by scalpers and to suggest they are is utterly moronic. You don’t actually read the threads do you? I said if someone goes to a store and buys an new figure just to sell it whether they are a collector or not then Yes they are a scalper. And I said this twice now already... If for whatever reason a collector decides to sell off part or all of his collection then that is a different story.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2018 13:24:06 GMT -5
So if someone is selling off their collection you think they should list them at retail price to ensure they don’t upset anyone? It’s pathetic. Ringside sell figures for more than retail, most of the time. Because they get them early from China blah blah blah is bs. The only reason people pay high prices is to be the first to own it. That’s why prices go mad for those selling figures before the hit retail everywhere. The vast majority of figures being bought and sold for high prices are not figures bought by scalpers and to suggest they are is utterly moronic. You don’t actually read the threads do you? I said if someone goes to a store and buys an new figure just to sell it whether they are a collector or not them they are a scalper. And I said this twice now already... If for whatever reason a collector decides to sell off part or all of his collection then that is a different story. The posts about so called scalpers tend to blur, which is why my reply was deleted. If people didn’t want to pay extra to own a figure before most other people the sellers wouldn’t bother doing it. People are always happy to pay more to own it first, just ask ringside, they’ve made a business from charging higher than retail prices for figures
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Post by Gorilla on Feb 15, 2018 15:08:03 GMT -5
Perhaps you should apply for a job there then. What field do you currently work in? Oh I in no way claim I could do a better job. I just find the distribution decisions to be frustrating when every other company seems to have a proper workaround when it comes to overseas distribution deals. But your snark wasn't necessary. I'm in Canada. The problem here is obviously French language packaging requirements. I am not complaining. There are so many ways to buy figs. Also, think about the power of some of these retailers. Do you think Walmart, Target or Amazon want to see their exclusive figures on zone dinky UK website like Smith's, or some crappy store in Australia or Canada?
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Post by bharrisfan on Feb 15, 2018 15:23:38 GMT -5
MDT is putting kid/basic deco on figures that adult collectors want. I don’t understand it. If you can’t do it right pick another attire you can nail. This michaels figure just pisses me off.
And why can’t mattel change hair color from the previous figure. Macho always has to have this dull light brown? He had almost jet black hair in ‘93. Michaels obviously had bleach blonde hair. Why is it brown here?
These figures are too far off to be a fun representation of the wrestlers
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Post by SteveHulk on Feb 15, 2018 17:32:11 GMT -5
RE. scalpers: sometimes they are the ONLY option when it comes to us non-US folks being able to buy a figure (usually a US store-exclusive), so I don't really mind them... They're kind of a necessary evil - I'd at least rather have the option of buying an exclusive/hard to find figure at an inflated price, than not being able to have the figure at all.
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Post by SteveHulk on Feb 15, 2018 17:33:34 GMT -5
I don’t see how Mattel looks at that Michaels figure and then back at the reference material and then back at the figure and say “looks like it’s back to the drawing board”. I appreciate the effort dont get me wrong but this seems a little too far off. I only collect golden-attitude so I love any flashbacks we get but if you can’t execute the tights due to restrictions (budget/paint app or otherwise) then choose a different attire maybe. Exactly.
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Post by Xæro #FakeCollector on Feb 15, 2018 18:20:26 GMT -5
Oh I in no way claim I could do a better job. I just find the distribution decisions to be frustrating when every other company seems to have a proper workaround when it comes to overseas distribution deals. But your snark wasn't necessary. I'm in Canada. The problem here is obviously French language packaging requirements. I am not complaining. There are so many ways to buy figs. Also, think about the power of some of these retailers. Do you think Walmart, Target or Amazon want to see their exclusive figures on zone dinky UK website like Smith's, or some crappy store in Australia or Canada? But Mattel distributes the NXT figures in the UK through another retailer, yet don't do so here. I understand why, but it doesn't stop it from being frustrating nonetheless. And for whatever reason, it's only Mattel that has this issue. Hasbro has no issues distributing their exclusives in Canada, even when it's for a retail chain that we don't have here, they distribute it to someone else.
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Post by c-scope on Feb 15, 2018 18:26:49 GMT -5
i know. Reminds me of the early internet when people threaten to drive across country to beat you up for disagreeing with them . Lolol this is awesome! I watched that a couple weeks ago (loved it) and would have never thought to make the gif say that. Lol
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Post by classicwrestlingfan on Feb 15, 2018 18:41:17 GMT -5
I'll buy any HBK, even though it's pointless without Marty which unfortunately we won't be getting for a while, Besides him suing WWE he also had the daughter thing a few months ago and he called Steph a b!tch. Personally i believe Marty should go get help, DDP should give him a call, Because i was personally a huge Rockers fan, and i hate to see a underrated legend like Marty go on a downward spiral like this
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Post by Controversial Maverick PUNK on Feb 15, 2018 19:02:43 GMT -5
this is awesome! I watched that a couple weeks ago (loved it) and would have never thought to make the gif say that. Lol If we're being picky, it should say "pulling", instead of "pulled"... but amazing, nonetheless.
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