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Post by Jack Specific on Feb 16, 2018 9:42:54 GMT -5
Very true. Any time I purchased a firearm I had to go through 2 background checks. One state and one Federal. The forms are long and must be filled out by hand at the point of purchase. This includes "Gun Show" purchases as well. Criminals purchasing "on the street" need no background check. Maybe that is what she was referring to about it being "easy"? Did you get an AR-15? Yes I have one and same forms/same background checks as any of my handguns.
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Post by Majere on Feb 16, 2018 9:58:07 GMT -5
Don’t ban guns, I would say the ownership of automatic assault rifles should be controlled a little better. I’m not sure what anyone would need one for. I don’t think it should just be someones right to own a gun but one should prove they are worthy in mental capability of owning guns. Automatic assault rifles have been banned for years.
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Post by Majere on Feb 16, 2018 10:00:23 GMT -5
I'm not going to go very deep into it, I'll just say that it's completely baffling to me that anybody can possibly think that the current gun laws and regulations in the US are good and don't need to be changed. What laws specifically do you think need to be changed?
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Post by SweetPrinceBH on Feb 16, 2018 10:01:28 GMT -5
Some of these arguments seem to boil down to "Hey don't place really heavy restrictions, I like guns!"
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Post by Majere on Feb 16, 2018 10:03:10 GMT -5
"Good guy with a gun" is a flawed argument. You're not going to have Chris Kyle sitting by you at a bus stop every time someone decides to start firing. And if you pull out a gun in a situation where all police know is that there's an active shooter, what's going to happen when they see you armed first? Guns cause more problems than they solve. Don't tell me otherwise. Then why do policemen carry guns?
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Post by Majere on Feb 16, 2018 10:04:14 GMT -5
Some of these arguments seem to boil down to "Hey don't place really heavy restrictions, I like guns!" What restrictions do you want that are currently not in place?
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Post by SweetPrinceBH on Feb 16, 2018 10:05:23 GMT -5
Some of these arguments seem to boil down to "Hey don't place really heavy restrictions, I like guns!" What restrictions do you want that are currently not in place? Have you read the rest of this thread or are you just quoting people with questions?
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Post by Majere on Feb 16, 2018 10:09:11 GMT -5
I think once you have a gun problem you'tr ed. No one will want to give up their guns if they've bought it as protection and criminals wont give up their guns cause they're criminals, the thing is I know its "an american right" to bear arms, and thats fine if thats your "right" then fair enough, I just think the law needs looking at the constitution was drawn up a long time ago, way before the idea of an automatic gun, I think if the dude who wrote up the constitution could see how far guns have advanced and how dangerous an automatic is compared to a musket or whatever they used back then, they wouldnt have put pen to paper. Not a dude. Dudes. And they had to put it in the constitution because American citizens were fighting off hostile forces from all sides (British soldiers, angry American Indians, and wild, dangerous animals.) Without guns they were as good as dead.
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Post by Majere on Feb 16, 2018 10:10:34 GMT -5
What restrictions do you want that are currently not in place? Have you read the rest of this thread or are you just quoting people with questions? I read the thread. I'm asking you a question. That's how discussions work. If you've already given an in-depth explanation, I missed it.
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Post by SweetPrinceBH on Feb 16, 2018 10:11:45 GMT -5
I think once you have a gun problem you'tr ed. No one will want to give up their guns if they've bought it as protection and criminals wont give up their guns cause they're criminals, the thing is I know its "an american right" to bear arms, and thats fine if thats your "right" then fair enough, I just think the law needs looking at the constitution was drawn up a long time ago, way before the idea of an automatic gun, I think if the dude who wrote up the constitution could see how far guns have advanced and how dangerous an automatic is compared to a musket or whatever they used back then, they wouldnt have put pen to paper. Not a dude. Dudes. And they had to put it in the constitution because American citizens were fighting off hostile forces from all sides (British soldiers, angry American Indians, and wild, dangerous animals.) Without guns they were as good as dead. Yes that's true, but he was saying that the constitution is outdated.
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Post by Majere on Feb 16, 2018 10:14:06 GMT -5
Not a dude. Dudes. And they had to put it in the constitution because American citizens were fighting off hostile forces from all sides (British soldiers, angry American Indians, and wild, dangerous animals.) Without guns they were as good as dead. Yes that's true, but he was saying that the constitution is outdated. If that's what he was saying, he is wrong.
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Post by SweetPrinceBH on Feb 16, 2018 10:14:30 GMT -5
Have you read the rest of this thread or are you just quoting people with questions? I read the thread. i'm asking you a question. That's how discussions work. If you've already given an in-depth explanation, I missed it. Fair enough. In my view, guns should be limited to the police, the military, and under very extreme limitation for sport. Also, if you're still eligible to go to school, you shouldn't be able to own a gun. I know there's an age limit of 21, but the kid was 19 and he ended up with one.
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Post by SweetPrinceBH on Feb 16, 2018 10:15:49 GMT -5
Yes that's true, but he was saying that the constitution is outdated. If that's what he was saying, he is wrong. The constitution made effective in 1789 isn't outdated?
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Post by Majere on Feb 16, 2018 10:18:50 GMT -5
I read the thread. i'm asking you a question. That's how discussions work. If you've already given an in-depth explanation, I missed it. Fair enough. In my view, guns should be limited to the police, the military, and under very extreme limitation for sport. Also, if you're still eligible to go to school, you shouldn't be able to own a gun. I know there's an age limit of 21, but the kid was 19 and he ended up with one. So you want to abolish the 2nd Amendment. There are over 300,000,000 in the United States. How do you propose we round them all up, assuming people agree to allow the government to wipe its butt with the constitution and take away their civil liberties? Additionally, have you seen the results of what happens when the federal government tries to outlaw things peole want, like alcohol, drugs, and prostitution? The results have not been very good.
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Post by Majere on Feb 16, 2018 10:20:24 GMT -5
If that's what he was saying, he is wrong. The constitution made effective in 1789 isn't outdated? No. Every civil liberty you enjoy today exists solely because that document guarantees it.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2018 10:21:40 GMT -5
If that's what he was saying, he is wrong. The constitution made effective in 1789 isn't outdated? I think we should bring back the guillotine!
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Post by SweetPrinceBH on Feb 16, 2018 10:23:39 GMT -5
Fair enough. In my view, guns should be limited to the police, the military, and under very extreme limitation for sport. Also, if you're still eligible to go to school, you shouldn't be able to own a gun. I know there's an age limit of 21, but the kid was 19 and he ended up with one. So you want to abolish the 2nd Amendment. There are over 300,000,000 in the United States. How do you propose we round them all up, assuming people agree to aloow the government to wipe its butt with the constitution and take awy their civil liberties? Additionally, have you seen the results of what happens when the federal government tries to outlaw things peole want, like alcohol, drugs, and prostitution? The results have not been very good. Right, so you're saying that we should just let people do what they like because they would protest if it was taken away? If it means less dead children then yeah, screw your stupid constitution. Everyone else I've spoken to here at least has a legitimate point. Like I said a little earlier, this seems to boil down to "I like guns, so don't take them away"
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Post by SweetPrinceBH on Feb 16, 2018 10:24:01 GMT -5
The constitution made effective in 1789 isn't outdated? No. Every civil liberty you enjoy today exists solely because that document guarantees it. I'm not American buddy.
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Post by SweetPrinceBH on Feb 16, 2018 10:26:03 GMT -5
The constitution made effective in 1789 isn't outdated? I think we should bring back the guillotine! Yes! Did you get the invite to the next public trial for witchcraft?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2018 10:27:06 GMT -5
I think we should bring back the guillotine! Yes! Did you get the invite to the next public trial for witchcraft? Don't get me started on religion. My thoughts and prayers go out to the families who've been affected by mass shootings.
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