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Post by CM Poor on Oct 26, 2018 7:46:49 GMT -5
My greatest fear when Brennan virtually handed me the International Title earlier this year was becoming the next Dex. You have no idea how much I stressed out over putting up a good showing in every title defense. He was before my time but seeing his name become a running joke was great inspiration. As a newly crowned champion, that's my fear too. I feel like my last RP is my best one so I'm feeling the pressure to top it. The last thing I want is to peak but let me tell you something, I haven't even begun to peak and when I do peak, you'll know because I'm going to peak so hard that everyone in the WFWF is going to feel it. This probably sounds somewhat redundant coming from me, based on the comments I tend to receive myself, but you are way too hard on yourself. All manner of questionable booking aside, I'm generally of the thought, at least when wearing my booking hat, that anyone who finds themselves in a title match position by virtue of their own output a) has every right to be there, and b) is perfectly capable of carrying whatever title they're up for. Sure, you ultimately won your finals by default (even if your work was perfectly competitive), but prior, you've delivered on every situation you've been placed in; win, lose, or draw. I'll speak perfectly candidly, now that my emerald shackles have been cast off, and confess that there was a great deal of effort behind the scenes put into ensuring that the circumstances of how the tournament played out didn't give the outward appearance of you being handed the finals, because you were absolutely the odds on favorite going into it, and that was only diminished the tiniest bit when Markw came back into the picture with Shuggy. I personally handled the seeding for that tournament, and at one point our numbers were so weak that you (being the top seed, in case you were wondering) were due to get a first round bye. I wasn't exactly rearing to enter another tournament. All this is to say that you are a perfectly valid and deserving champion who has earned their spot the conventional way. If you go back and find my Inside the Mind gimmick, done at a time when I was entirely more bitter (can you imagine), you'll find that I've long been a proponent of not strapping a rocket to someone in the hopes that they'll get their just dues before they pack up and leave. This was a big part of the mindset behind what happened with Dex - bad guy™ didn't want to lose a writer he felt had the intangibles to go the distance to the all too common risk of growing bored with our game before they've gotten theirs. I have...numerous qualms with that mindset, and I like to think that, in part, some of what King Richius and I set in motion is proving me right in that respect. If someone wants to be here for the long run, you'll know. No number or lack of imaginary titular accolades will change that. I think that someone who isn't quite ready to hang with the top tier writers here will become immensely more discouraged if they do get the hot shot into that position and every last one of their shortcomings suddenly become all the more apparent when put up against their new slate of peers. See: Dex. New writers with apparent talent absolutely should be fostered. If their talent supersedes the lower tier picture they get pushed into? Great. On to the next. Eventually, all involved will find the sweet spot where they're being adequately challenged, and that's when they'll really take off. I pushed heavily for an entry level championship for that very reason. You are right where you need to be, and now, we get to see what you're really made of. You might slip - and that's great. You'll discover what works, what doesn't, and what you need to incorporate so that if you fall to Shuggy this time around, you can come back next time (because there will be a next time) and hand it right back to him. If you win, you might see the gravity of your opponents start to increase, and maybe it's not long before you outgrow the Vanguard picture, and the International scene becomes more your speed, and then the world, and so on and so forth. Personally? I think it's only a matter of time, but I don't think Rich and I would have been doing you any favors by seeing what you had to offer and saying "sh*t, Brennan's got a title to drop - let's hand it to Mesh and just see what happens". You're much better off earning your stripes, so that when your time comes atop the pecking order of the roster, whoever's on the other side of the card will be fretting you just as much as you may be fretting them.
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Post by King Richius on Oct 26, 2018 14:52:23 GMT -5
Well said CM Poor. By no means was a title handed to @ballparkb0b. An opportunity was placed in front of you but you did the work in grabbing it.
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Post by CM Poor on Oct 26, 2018 15:28:59 GMT -5
I recognize that these little trips down memory lane do kind of paint me into a somewhat unflattering visage of soaring upon Falkor through my very own Neverending Story of long held grudges. As such, let's talk about my very first failure during my tenure as owner. King Richius and I inherited some pretty dismal numbers, and we both agreed early on that a recruitment push was not only in order, but necessary to stay the course through out first couple of shows to turn out anything of substantial worth. bad guy™ handed us a smattering of folks, among whom I think maybe two or three still remain consistently active. I, in my infinite wisdom, opted for the Turner Broadcasting approach, and looked to the history books, hoping to net a handful of notable-ish names to come back into the fold and try their hand within the confines of a new regime. I personally reached out to Mak Cross, Dex, Devilkiller, Cam Nitta, Kyle Matthews, and Chase Landon, inviting them to come join us for another run. DK briefly graced us with his presence under the guise of a new character, as did Mak Cross, who showed such strong signs of potential that his eventual re-departure might have been the greatest source of heartache during my time, if not for the fact that Dex, Cam, Matthews, and Landon all ghosted the ever loving hell out of me. Then came my well thought out, incomparably fruitful attempt at the ol' "Advertising Post in The Lounge" trick, wherein all my attempts at attracting new sets of eyes were swiftly and ferociously rebuked by a litany of damaging claims on behalf of surefire first ballot WFWF Hall of Famer (if such a thing existed) "Bulletproof" Bobby Hall.
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Post by Kyzer on Oct 26, 2018 19:35:14 GMT -5
I recognize that these little trips down memory lane do kind of paint me into a somewhat unflattering visage of soaring upon Falkor through my very own Neverending Story of long held grudges. As such, let's talk about my very first failure during my tenure as owner. King Richius and I inherited some pretty dismal numbers, and we both agreed early on that a recruitment push was not only in order, but necessary to stay the course through out first couple of shows to turn out anything of substantial worth. bad guy™ handed us a smattering of folks, among whom I think maybe two or three still remain consistently active. I, in my infinite wisdom, opted for the Turner Broadcasting approach, and looked to the history books, hoping to net a handful of notable-ish names to come back into the fold and try their hand within the confines of a new regime. I personally reached out to Mak Cross, Dex, Devilkiller, Cam Nitta, Kyle Matthews, and Chase Landon, inviting them to come join us for another run. DK briefly graced us with his presence under the guise of a new character, as did Mak Cross, who showed such strong signs of potential that his eventual re-departure might have been the greatest source of heartache during my time, if not for the fact that Dex, Cam, Matthews, and Landon all ghosted the ever loving hell out of me. Then came my well thought out, incomparably fruitful attempt at the ol' "Advertising Post in The Lounge" trick, wherein all my attempts at attracting new sets of eyes were swiftly and ferociously rebuked by a litany of damaging claims on behalf of surefire first ballot WFWF Hall of Famer (if such a thing existed) "Bulletproof" Bobby Hall. I have never once looked at the lounge board. In fact I don't think I have ever posted anything on any board that wasn't the WFWF board except for when I was a mod and had to ask for things on that toxic sub forum.
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Post by CM Poor on Oct 26, 2018 20:04:25 GMT -5
I recognize that these little trips down memory lane do kind of paint me into a somewhat unflattering visage of soaring upon Falkor through my very own Neverending Story of long held grudges. As such, let's talk about my very first failure during my tenure as owner. King Richius and I inherited some pretty dismal numbers, and we both agreed early on that a recruitment push was not only in order, but necessary to stay the course through out first couple of shows to turn out anything of substantial worth. bad guy™ handed us a smattering of folks, among whom I think maybe two or three still remain consistently active. I, in my infinite wisdom, opted for the Turner Broadcasting approach, and looked to the history books, hoping to net a handful of notable-ish names to come back into the fold and try their hand within the confines of a new regime. I personally reached out to Mak Cross, Dex, Devilkiller, Cam Nitta, Kyle Matthews, and Chase Landon, inviting them to come join us for another run. DK briefly graced us with his presence under the guise of a new character, as did Mak Cross, who showed such strong signs of potential that his eventual re-departure might have been the greatest source of heartache during my time, if not for the fact that Dex, Cam, Matthews, and Landon all ghosted the ever loving hell out of me. Then came my well thought out, incomparably fruitful attempt at the ol' "Advertising Post in The Lounge" trick, wherein all my attempts at attracting new sets of eyes were swiftly and ferociously rebuked by a litany of damaging claims on behalf of surefire first ballot WFWF Hall of Famer (if such a thing existed) "Bulletproof" Bobby Hall. I have never once looked at the lounge board. In fact I don't think I have ever posted anything on any board that wasn't the WFWF board except for when I was a mod and had to ask for things on that toxic sub forum. The mod forum is 90% of the reason I wanted the green stink off of my name.
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Post by Prophet of Ash on Oct 27, 2018 9:21:15 GMT -5
I don't remember if it was when I was a mod here or over text feds/fantasy booking, that the lounge was consumed by a "Rocky Beard Off Competition" that several admins were posting in daily, but then gave an excuse that something that needed done hadn't been seen. I don't remember if it was text feds getting renamed fantasy booking or the something with the house show board, because it's been 10-15 years.. But the democracy in play is ludacris for something as minor as an action figure board. And the tattle tailing. so much tattle tailing.
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Post by CM Poor on Oct 29, 2018 10:46:48 GMT -5
I don't remember if it was when I was a mod here or over text feds/fantasy booking, that the lounge was consumed by a "Rocky Beard Off Competition" that several admins were posting in daily, but then gave an excuse that something that needed done hadn't been seen. I don't remember if it was text feds getting renamed fantasy booking or the something with the house show board, because it's been 10-15 years.. But the democracy in play is ludacris for something as minor as an action figure board. And the tattle tailing. so much tattle tailing. Ah, yes. WF's "Six Admins on Staff That All Partook in the Same Clique, Resulting in a Disproportionate Enforcement of the Vaguely Stated Board Rules" era. Endless fun for all who were around to experience it.
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Post by bad guy™ on Oct 30, 2018 12:12:19 GMT -5
I don't remember if it was when I was a mod here or over text feds/fantasy booking, that the lounge was consumed by a "Rocky Beard Off Competition" that several admins were posting in daily, but then gave an excuse that something that needed done hadn't been seen. I don't remember if it was text feds getting renamed fantasy booking or the something with the house show board, because it's been 10-15 years.. But the democracy in play is ludacris for something as minor as an action figure board. And the tattle tailing. so much tattle tailing. Ah, yes. WF's "Six Admins on Staff That All Partook in the Same Clique, Resulting in a Disproportionate Enforcement of the Vaguely Stated Board Rules" era. Endless fun for all who were around to experience it. All I know of that era was that Nick was a giant dbag that would ban anyone who disagreed with him about anything and that WOJC was probably the only sane one of the batch. Can this be confirmed or denied?
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Post by bad guy™ on Oct 30, 2018 12:17:47 GMT -5
Also, Kyzer did something very cruel to me. When he and I were teaming together a few years back, he was explaining to me a couple of the side characters in the Konspiracy that weren't of his invention, specifically MusclesGlasses. He told me about a series called Epic Meal Time that I'd never heard of before. ...fast forward to about six months ago and I'm watching foodie videos on Facebook and lo and behold, Epic Meal Time pops up with some crazy, like, million calorie casserole or some ish. Kyzer told me to watch EMT because it was in hilarious but I never followed up. I now can't stop watching their new videos, and I actually subscribe to Harley Mortensen on FB Gaming. Why, I dunno. I still question why people pay me to game. But I'm basically addicted to their content and I'm shelling out a couple bucks every month to this guy, and I blame Kyzer's bad influence on me for it.
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Post by Kyzer on Oct 30, 2018 13:20:23 GMT -5
Also, Kyzer did something very cruel to me. When he and I were teaming together a few years back, he was explaining to me a couple of the side characters in the Konspiracy that weren't of his invention, specifically MusclesGlasses. He told me about a series called Epic Meal Time that I'd never heard of before. ...fast forward to about six months ago and I'm watching foodie videos on Facebook and lo and behold, Epic Meal Time pops up with some crazy, like, million calorie casserole or some ish. Kyzer told me to watch EMT because it was in hilarious but I never followed up. I now can't stop watching their new videos, and I actually subscribe to Harley Mortensen on FB Gaming. Why, I dunno. I still question why people pay me to game. But I'm basically addicted to their content and I'm shelling out a couple bucks every month to this guy, and I blame Kyzer's bad influence on me for it. Epic Meal Time was great but Mortensen became a douchebag. He let everything go to his head.
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Post by bad guy™ on Oct 30, 2018 13:24:12 GMT -5
Also, Kyzer did something very cruel to me. When he and I were teaming together a few years back, he was explaining to me a couple of the side characters in the Konspiracy that weren't of his invention, specifically MusclesGlasses. He told me about a series called Epic Meal Time that I'd never heard of before. ...fast forward to about six months ago and I'm watching foodie videos on Facebook and lo and behold, Epic Meal Time pops up with some crazy, like, million calorie casserole or some ish. Kyzer told me to watch EMT because it was in hilarious but I never followed up. I now can't stop watching their new videos, and I actually subscribe to Harley Mortensen on FB Gaming. Why, I dunno. I still question why people pay me to game. But I'm basically addicted to their content and I'm shelling out a couple bucks every month to this guy, and I blame Kyzer's bad influence on me for it. Epic Meal Time was great but Mortensen became a douchebag. He let everything go to his head. I can kinda see that based on reaction. I should probably break out the ol' YouTube and watch old episodes, but just by reading the comments I see people saying the show isn't the same. I've nothing to compare it to. Was there a point where the fame kinda went to his head totally? Like, I know there was some kinda lawsuit or whatever related to the aforementioned MusclesGlasses and Mortensen making money off his likeness when he was done with the group but my knowledge is limited. Teach me, Messiah.
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Post by CM Poor on Oct 30, 2018 14:11:09 GMT -5
Ah, yes. WF's "Six Admins on Staff That All Partook in the Same Clique, Resulting in a Disproportionate Enforcement of the Vaguely Stated Board Rules" era. Endless fun for all who were around to experience it. All I know of that era was that Nick was a giant dbag that would ban anyone who disagreed with him about anything and that WOJC was probably the only sane one of the batch. Can this be confirmed or denied? Flatly denied. Nick was the only one who hit red during that time that didn't fall into the f*ckin' cool kids club by default, if not it's fringes at a bare minimum.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2018 16:18:06 GMT -5
Epic Meal Time was great but Mortensen became a douchebag. He let everything go to his head. I can kinda see that based on reaction. I should probably break out the ol' YouTube and watch old episodes, but just by reading the comments I see people saying the show isn't the same. I've nothing to compare it to. Was there a point where the fame kinda went to his head totally? Like, I know there was some kinda lawsuit or whatever related to the aforementioned MusclesGlasses and Mortensen making money off his likeness when he was done with the group but my knowledge is limited. Teach me, Messiah. Harley apparently co-created MusclesGlasses and the guy that played him was hired as an actor to portray him. He left the show because he felt he wasn't being treated well, despite how over the character was. I agree with Kyzer, the show isn't....funny anymore. At least to me. It's like the bigger they got, the worse the quality of their videos became. I dunno.
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Post by Prophet of Ash on Oct 30, 2018 16:39:22 GMT -5
I can kinda see that based on reaction. I should probably break out the ol' YouTube and watch old episodes, but just by reading the comments I see people saying the show isn't the same. I've nothing to compare it to. Was there a point where the fame kinda went to his head totally? Like, I know there was some kinda lawsuit or whatever related to the aforementioned MusclesGlasses and Mortensen making money off his likeness when he was done with the group but my knowledge is limited. Teach me, Messiah. Harley apparently co-created MusclesGlasses and the guy that played him was hired as an actor to portray him. He left the show because he felt he wasn't being treated well, despite how over the character was. I agree with Kyzer, the show isn't....funny anymore. At least to me. It's like the bigger they got, the worse the quality of their videos became. I dunno. That's not true at all. the first episode, fast food pizza, filmed in Harley's backyard, was he and Muscles Glasses talking and just being friends. They were friends who went bad with a business relationship. I loved EpicMealTime for the first year or two. Until they started actually trying to be a cooking show. Now I don't even know what they are trying to be, but it's not funny
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2018 17:04:57 GMT -5
Harley apparently co-created MusclesGlasses and the guy that played him was hired as an actor to portray him. He left the show because he felt he wasn't being treated well, despite how over the character was. I agree with Kyzer, the show isn't....funny anymore. At least to me. It's like the bigger they got, the worse the quality of their videos became. I dunno. That's not true at all. the first episode, fast food pizza, filmed in Harley's backyard, was he and Muscles Glasses talking and just being friends. They were friends who went bad with a business relationship. Really? What I read online made it seem like it was always just a business relationship.
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Post by Drakz on Oct 30, 2018 17:47:01 GMT -5
I have no idea what any of you are talking about.
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Post by Markw on Oct 30, 2018 18:08:22 GMT -5
I have no idea what any of you are talking about. Glad it's not just me.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2018 18:13:55 GMT -5
I have no idea what any of you are talking about.
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Post by Drakz on Oct 31, 2018 11:30:16 GMT -5
And the admin stuff?
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Post by CM Poor on Oct 31, 2018 12:07:53 GMT -5
Place used the be the wild west, man. Before bad guy™'s reign of terror, there was something like five admins at some point. A plurality of them were all part of or on the fringes of this weird little e-clique of members, mods, and admins that used to party on the old AIM chats and sh*t. Inclusion meant you could do no wrong, especially with three or so admins all in on the fun, and for a good while they ran rampant with it. Of the admins that cycled through, Shawn wrongly alleges that one of their numbers was the sole level-headed one of the bunch, and that the actual sole level-headed one was a d-bag. The internet was serious business at the turn of the century.
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