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Post by CrossRhodes on Feb 28, 2018 12:07:46 GMT -5
I feel like it's in the name "retro", Concentrate on guys from 2000 back to the 90s, 80s & some of the big guys from the 60s/70s with a spluttering of current roster guys.
Of course I'm aware that's never going to happen because that's not where mattel are going to make profit - it will be more current day heavy with the usual suspects thrown in occasionally like that ultimate dude & Undertaker etc
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Post by mrassbillygunn on Feb 28, 2018 12:13:41 GMT -5
I would love them to focus primarily where Hasbros left off and take it from there chronologically with each era. I can understand from a marketing perspective why they are going with modern guys. Series 1 and 2 were great, series 3 was fine but im a bit underwhelmed with series 4 going forward.
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Post by chowmeinkane on Feb 28, 2018 12:16:56 GMT -5
I love the newer guys if they have a colorful attire (Which none of them have except new day) I'd like to see a ring gear Bret, Diesel, and ring gear Piper but heck come out with whatever and I'll buy it if I like the wrestler enough
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Post by hbchris on Feb 28, 2018 13:17:12 GMT -5
I don't see why it's so hard to include legends and current stars in each wave (which, yes, I know they've done somewhat, particularly in Wave 1). This whole concept is built on nostalgia, so legends seems like the obvious choice, but if Mattel is so determined that these have kid appeal and thus they need current stars for them to sell, they could at least balance it out a little with legends. Seems like the sensible thing to if they want to appeal to the widest audience.
One way or another, I really want a Big Show from this line. And obviously a Diesel.
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Post by TheLastDude on Feb 28, 2018 15:19:52 GMT -5
I don't care. I'll buy whatever they put out as long as the figure is good.
There are obviously ones that I'd like to see more so than others, but this line has been making me feel like a kid again, so it's worth the price of admission.
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Post by RedDevil on Feb 28, 2018 16:41:52 GMT -5
Because “Retro” in this context refers to the style of the figures rather than indicating that this is a “legends” line exclusively then I’ve been fine with them doing a mix of modern guys in with the legends that I grew-up with whilst collecting Hasbros - but all the same it is frustrating to see decisions that I would regard as mistakes with the line:
-Mixing in the App is a mistake for example - it adds nothing to the figures, irritates the old collector-types like me, and rises the prices on a line that should be priced below the main lines in order to get a market, espeicially given how “budget” they feel (more on that later).
-Lowering the number of figures per series to four figures is a mistake I think - six is a better number to get a range of figures out there to hook the market. If they released six in the same ratio as the first series (4 current; 2 legends) then I think everyone would be happier.
-Some of the designs have been brilliant (Lesnar my favourite of the lot, the jumpers (love them or hate them) have that classic Hasbro feel, as do the clothesline figures) but some are really lacking - all the criticism of the Warrior figure is justified, the Reigns punching arm looked too long, the missing details from Kane, the choice of action for Goldberg, Sting and Triple H, etc. A lot of it feels very much like a line with a limited budget, which isn’t on given that we are now saddled with “App” prices.
-The Reigns and Owens situation: I don’t get why toy lines want to deny their customers a chance to buy their products by only making limited numbers of some guys like with these two and then not offering them to other markets like the UK; the only ones who profit from that are the scalpers. I understand the first two series were exclusives to Walmart, but I still don’t get what the toy maker gets from making the customers give a lot more money to someone other than them who is re-selling the figure that they were fortunate enough to find at retail price.
So basically I love that the line exists at all, but I can’t help feeling that it could be so much better.
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Post by drnickriviera995 on Feb 28, 2018 16:50:59 GMT -5
I want Hasbro era and the shoulder years, like 87-88, 94-96 mostly. I'll probably buy anybody that was around while I was watching for the most part until like 05'.
I also really want 90's WCW.
Not going to buy any current roster, I would have for the sake of completion if they had been intersperced like they were at the start, but if it's mostly current with a legend here and there, I'm only buying the legends.
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Post by The Madness on Feb 28, 2018 17:50:05 GMT -5
I want Hasbro era and the shoulder years, like 87-88, 94-96 mostly. This is all I'm interested in.
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Post by drnickriviera995 on Feb 28, 2018 18:07:16 GMT -5
And what's up with S4(Flair wave)? Amazon said March 1st, but still haven't seen any updates, or even a preorder on RSC.
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Post by jcz15 on Feb 28, 2018 18:09:48 GMT -5
Given I was a kid when the Hasbros where out I feel like they still need a few holes to fill from the New Gen Era, and would love if Mattel did more Attitude Era guys since that was just when the line finished up. Like the second series Mattel release for a collector like me was awesome. Having a Mankind, Austin, Rock and Kane are those type of guy Hasbro didn't make. If they could make more figures from this two era would be awesome.
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Post by Chicago on Feb 28, 2018 18:37:13 GMT -5
Series 1 had the right idea by emphasizing mostly current names with a select few colorful characters from years past. It's a delicate balance to keep, but I think it's the best way to ensure this line has sustainability. The Attitude Era theme in Series 2 was an awesome treat, but it's not something I expect to ever see again. One or two classics at a time is all we can hope to get for the foreseeable future, and those guys are going to be the cream of the crop, not the likes of Bastion Booger or Mantaur.
It does seem odd to have so many current guys advertised with Mattel's take on the classic Hasbro ring, but I'll take whatever I can get. The price point isn't bad for the ring and I actually think it will improve upon the mold of the original ring. The increase in the figure price because of an App function I'll never use is probably my biggest gripe. Mattel's Retros are not going to make perfect sense, just as Hasbro's figures didn't in their time, but I've wanted a line at this scale or slightly smaller since the Jakks Build N' Brawl days and I'm determined to stick with it.
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Post by nywild3 on Feb 28, 2018 19:02:00 GMT -5
Since I only collect Hasbros and Retros, I want them to make as many different wrestlers as possible. Even though I don’t watch the current product very often, I’d rather have a Retro Owens than a wrestler Hasbro already made until it’s a huge improvement on what Hasbro did. I consider Flair a huge improvement but the Retro Warrior was a waste. Same colors as series 1 Hasbro. If they had Warrior in his WM 6 or 7 gear it may have been worth it. Purple Taker was cool but definitely not essential. Of course I’d rather have Goldust, Booker T, Dino Bravo, Killer Bees so on and so forth, but I understand current wrestlers are needed to help the line. Hopefully the line lasts long enough to allow Mattel to fill all the gaps from 94 to 2017 and maybe even hit up some legends prior to 1990.
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Post by pickle on Feb 28, 2018 20:04:56 GMT -5
Man, I'll never understand some of your thinking on this. It's a retro line so it should only have retro stars? Y'all know that if Mattel came out and said the elite and basic lines are modern lines so they'll only feature modern stars from now on, you'd raise hell.
When I was younger all I wanted was Hasbro figs of my modern favourites. Sure I want a diesel and Jarrett and haku and barbarian too. But I love my new Owens and Lesnar and Cena and Styles. Ideally I'd have a Hasbro for every elite figure I buy.
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Post by mrassbillygunn on Feb 28, 2018 22:24:50 GMT -5
By the way, when does the NWO macho come out? and is this an amazon exclusive?
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Post by Chicago on Feb 28, 2018 22:49:43 GMT -5
By the way, when does the NWO macho come out? and is this an amazon exclusive? It will be in the wave after next, or Retro App Wave 3 for 2018; Balor/Flair/Zayn/Owens #2 is Wave 2 and is due in April. According to @actionfigureattack on Instagram, these will be available everywhere. More than likely, Amazon's "expected" release date of early May will come and go with nothing to show for Macho and New Day, the other three in the set. My guess is that wave will be released by the early part of summer.
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Post by showbizpizzabear81 on Mar 1, 2018 9:08:03 GMT -5
Since I only collect Hasbros and Retros, I want them to make as many different wrestlers as possible. Even though I don’t watch the current product very often, I’d rather have a Retro Owens than a wrestler Hasbro already made until it’s a huge improvement on what Hasbro did. I consider Flair a huge improvement but the Retro Warrior was a waste. Same colors as series 1 Hasbro. If they had Warrior in his WM 6 or 7 gear it may have been worth it. Purple Taker was cool but definitely not essential. Of course I’d rather have Goldust, Booker T, Dino Bravo, Killer Bees so on and so forth, but I understand current wrestlers are needed to help the line. Hopefully the line lasts long enough to allow Mattel to fill all the gaps from 94 to 2017 and maybe even hit up some legends prior to 1990. I'm waiting patiently for New Day so I could do a Booker T head swap with Xavier and get my custom on. *finger taps table*
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Post by jaroto on Mar 1, 2018 9:36:48 GMT -5
Attitude Era.
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Post by Glorydaysofwrestling on Mar 1, 2018 9:41:48 GMT -5
Hasbro/galoob era guys that were never released
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Post by qdogg on Mar 1, 2018 12:08:23 GMT -5
It sucks they are doing so many repeats in the later waves when it seems like they could of done Diesel, nwo Hall and Nash, Hardy Boys, Goldust, Lawler, Vader, Edge and Christian, Dudley Boys, some managers like Heenan which Hasbro never did,
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Post by The Madness on Mar 1, 2018 12:21:58 GMT -5
They could even do figures that they wouldn't have to get specific likeness rights for. Max Moon, Mantaur, the Conquistadors, a different Doink, Gobbledy Gooker, etc.
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