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Post by drifter on Mar 8, 2018 20:13:52 GMT -5
I like some of Nirvana's stuff, but I've always thought, if Kurt had not killed himself, they would not have been elevated to the level they are today. Yeah, they were a pioneering group for the grunge scene, but I don't think they're on the level many put them at now. Like others here have said, I preferred Alice in Chains and Soundgarden a lot more.
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Post by ClashOfStyles on Mar 8, 2018 22:52:04 GMT -5
I like some of Nirvana's stuff, but I've always thought, if Kurt had not killed himself, they would not have been elevated to the level they are today. Yeah, they were a pioneering group for the grunge scene, but I don't think they're on the level many put them at now. Like others here have said, I preferred Alice in Chains and Soundgarden a lot more. They’d probably still be the biggest grunge act, but Kurt’s death and the conspiracies around it definitely contribute to how well known they are.
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Post by drifter on Mar 8, 2018 22:56:24 GMT -5
I like some of Nirvana's stuff, but I've always thought, if Kurt had not killed himself, they would not have been elevated to the level they are today. Yeah, they were a pioneering group for the grunge scene, but I don't think they're on the level many put them at now. Like others here have said, I preferred Alice in Chains and Soundgarden a lot more. They’d probably still be the biggest grunge act, but Kurt’s death and the conspiracies around it definitely contribute to how well known they are. I still thing, had he not 'joined the 27 Club' and Kurt was still alive today, alot of that shine, that was on the Nirvana name, would have faded. Makes you wonder, if he was still alive too, would Dave Grohl have gotten to the level he is now. To me, that's the silver lining of the tragedy of Kurt's death, was Grohl was able to shine, and truly show his talent, as well as how cool of a guy he is.
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Post by The Gangsta on Mar 8, 2018 23:43:53 GMT -5
I love Nirvana. I'm a huge fan of their more heavier songs like the majority of Bleach and some of In Utero. Although they hold a special place in my heart, I consider them more pop rock and borderline punk rather than grunge. For grunge, I listen to Alice in Chains, Mudhoney, Soundgarden, etc., which I all thoroughly enjoy.
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Post by TheBadGuyChico on Mar 9, 2018 1:24:49 GMT -5
I think the idea that Kurt Cobain would have lost his star power is a bit much. I mean maybe he just goes into seclusion, but I doubt it.
Kurt Cobain the solo artist had a ton of potential, the work he was looking to do with Michael Stipe would have been very interesting. He was moving in a quieter, more artsy direction. I think he would have seen plenty of acclaim on that note. Nirvana's run might have been over, but Kurt had so much potential off on his own.
He was certainly over 3 chord guitar rock with distortion galore. Look at songs like Dumb to see what his future sounded like. People rip on the simplicity of what he did with Nirvana, but he was evolving, and had quite the eclectic taste. I'm beating a dead horse, but he had a good of an ear for melody as anybody.
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Post by TheBadGuyChico on Mar 9, 2018 1:30:59 GMT -5
I love Nirvana. I'm a huge fan of their more heavier songs like the majority of Bleach and some of In Utero. Although they hold a special place in my heart, I consider them more pop rock and borderline punk rather than grunge. For grunge, I listen to Alice in Chains, Mudhoney, Soundgarden, etc., which I all thoroughly enjoy. Grunge is such an odd term, not much of a genre. I guess it works for the distortion laden songs, but it doesn't do justice to the musical diversity in the scene. The Seattle bands all seemed to be coming from a different place musically, Alice was all about Metal but with a ton of sludge, Mudhoney was quite punk, Nirvana had Beatles melodies, and Sound Garden was a lot like Alice. I just stick with alternative. The kids in the punk scene got bored and stopped denying that they liked Zeppelin, Aerosmith, and Sabbath. The married it to Punk sensibilities and stylings. In Kurt's case thrown in the Beatles and Queen lol.
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Post by TurboEddie on Mar 9, 2018 2:31:25 GMT -5
Nirvana is one of my favorite bands. I don’t understand the hatred towards them.
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Post by punksnotdead on Mar 9, 2018 11:16:35 GMT -5
For me it's really only Nirvana and Foo Fighters at the top of my list. In Utero and the Unplugged album are two of my top 10 favorite albums of all time. I was absolutely consumed by that Unplugged performance. I watched it with my sister, who is almost 10 years older than me, and, to the way it's been described to me, it was like I was seeing life for the first time. I remember it like it was yesterday. I also remember being told he died like it was yesterday.
Nevermind and Bleach, and the early demo garage stuff, hasn't stuck with me the same way as the 93 stuff. I don't know if it's because I'm older or if I was just more appreciative of Kurt's musical inspirations starting to dip into his own work. Guy is a tragic twist of fate. I listen to Live at Reading if I want to hear stuff from those first two albums.
Dave would have still become Dave imo. They came back from that European tour and Dave and Krist were done with Nirvana. Kurt didn't want to be famous anymore, either. Dave wrote stuff like This is a Call and Big Me right after Kurt's death. So the music was busting out of him by that 94/95 point. Kurt, by all accounts, wanted to do art/poetry more than music. It allowed him to be a shut-in and still gave him an outlet. It's incredibly strange to think about Kurt Cobain out in the world as a 50 year old man right now. Kind of makes my stomach turn, honestly.
I still love the genre, in general. STP and PJ were/are my other two favorite bands from that era. Vedder has really turned into something else as an artist. Sometimes I think it's brilliant and other times I think it's pretentious. I love the Chili Peppers, Beastie Boys and Green Day, as well. Queen, the Clash, Ramones, all things Andrew McMahon, Jack Johnson, Run the Jewels, pre Diorama Silverchair, Ed Sheeran, movie soundtracks and female fronted punk/rock bands. Most days I throw on Spotify and kind of just let it go.
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Post by joes7164 on Mar 16, 2018 9:54:56 GMT -5
Nirvana is cool. I listened to a lot of their stuff back in the day. I would have liked to be able to have seen them live. Love the unplugged album.
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Post by ET had AIDS on Mar 22, 2018 12:30:15 GMT -5
i like "Beans"
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Post by disorder on Mar 22, 2018 20:03:07 GMT -5
Incesticide>bleach>every other release
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Post by ClashOfStyles on Mar 22, 2018 20:48:16 GMT -5
Incesticide>bleach>every other release Personally I think In Utero is their best work but to each their own. Bleach and Incesticide are both fantastic regardless.
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Post by Mongo Bears on Mar 23, 2018 7:32:56 GMT -5
It’s not my type of music but I appreciate it because it was popular when I was in high school. There were a few Kurt look-alikes walking the halls of my school
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