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Post by tylerbreezee on Mar 6, 2018 10:41:19 GMT -5
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Post by jayrod2009 on Mar 6, 2018 10:50:06 GMT -5
WWE fired Enzo for not reporting the issue with the office. All backstage gossip and possible heat aside, had he told someone about it, he would likley still be collecting checks today. I’m still mad WWE dropped Hogan. I like when a company stands behind its employees and treats them as an innocent person until proven other wise. Any company that immediatly drops someone due to alligations, just makes that person look even more guilty. Coach doesn’t seem like the creep, but, I remember back in the day Lillian would get his goat on commentary and he was always first to say something about her.
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Post by marino13 on Mar 6, 2018 10:51:55 GMT -5
That's okay, I have enough words for the both of us...
There's a huge difference in sexually harassing and raping someone. HUGE.
Enzo knew for months that this was coming and said nothing. We don't know if the same can be said for Coach.
Enzo already was on his last leg. And as far as I know Coach has never been a problem.
Also remember this happened at a former employer, Not the WWE.
If more evidence comes out, Coach will be suspended or terminated.
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Post by tylerbreezee on Mar 6, 2018 11:00:42 GMT -5
That's okay, I have enough words for the both of us... There's a huge difference in sexually harassing and raping someone. HUGE. Enzo knew for months that this was coming and said nothing. We don't know if the same can be said for Coach. Enzo already was on his last leg. And as far as I know Coach has never been a problem. Also remember this happened at a former employer, Not the WWE. If more evidence comes out, Coach will be suspended or terminated. There is a difference but there was no investigation or anything. It was just “oh she said this with no proof, FIRED” no “We’re looking into it” or anything
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Post by tylerbreezee on Mar 6, 2018 11:01:20 GMT -5
WWE fired Enzo for not reporting the issue with the office. All backstage gossip and possible heat aside, had he told someone about it, he would likley still be collecting checks today. I’m still mad WWE dropped Hogan. I like when a company stands behind its employees and treats them as an innocent person until proven other wise. Any company that immediatly drops someone due to alligations, just makes that person look even more guilty. Coach doesn’t seem like the creep, but, I remember back in the day Lillian would get his goat on commentary and he was always first to say something about her. Enzo was suspended for not telling them. He was fired after it came out what it was about
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Post by marino13 on Mar 6, 2018 11:06:31 GMT -5
That's okay, I have enough words for the both of us... There's a huge difference in sexually harassing and raping someone. HUGE. Enzo knew for months that this was coming and said nothing. We don't know if the same can be said for Coach. Enzo already was on his last leg. And as far as I know Coach has never been a problem. Also remember this happened at a former employer, Not the WWE. If more evidence comes out, Coach will be suspended or terminated. There is a difference but there was no investigation or anything. It was just “oh she said this with no proof, FIRED” no “We’re looking into it” or anything He didn't tell them! They knew nothing till the story hit the press. Had he spoke up they might have been much more lenient. How do people still not get that?
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Post by tylerbreezee on Mar 6, 2018 11:13:16 GMT -5
There is a difference but there was no investigation or anything. It was just “oh she said this with no proof, FIRED” no “We’re looking into it” or anything He didn't tell them! They knew nothing till the story hit the press. Had he spoke up they might have been much more lenient. How do people still not get that? He was suspended for that part, idk why people forget that lol he was fired after it got a lot of media attention and the girl came out herself with what it was about
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Post by marino13 on Mar 6, 2018 11:20:42 GMT -5
He didn't tell them! They knew nothing till the story hit the press. Had he spoke up they might have been much more lenient. How do people still not get that? He was suspended for that part, idk why people forget that lol he was fired after it got a lot of media attention and the girl came out herself with what it was about They suspended him as soon as the news broke. Then when they were able to talk to him about it, he admitted he knew. And had known for months. That was the straw that broke the camels back. Rape is a far more serious accusation that harassment. And while I don't think Enzo was guilty, I don't blame WWE in the slightest for distances themselves from him as much as possible. Any major publicly traded company would have done the same thing.
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Post by Codyverse: Tag Team Champion on Mar 6, 2018 11:33:04 GMT -5
From what I read about Coach, aside from claims he sent some inappropriate pics, it said he asked a girl what kind of music she liked. Didn’t one of the commentators get screenshotted talking about face ing someone? And he was engaged or something? Not saying it’s okay to do, but sending inappropriate pics isn’t near as bad as getting accused of rape. Just my two cents.
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Post by FUSamBaker on Mar 6, 2018 11:42:23 GMT -5
Everyone is getting accused nowadays. I believe none until proven. We are having a modern day witch hunt tbh. Who cares anyway.
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Post by King Richius on Mar 6, 2018 11:51:45 GMT -5
I'm not going to defend sexual harassment in the workplace because it is a real problem our society needs to deal with but I will say that it is far less egregious than sexual assault and open to a much wider interpretation: what is harmless flirting or an innocent compliment to some is sexual harassment to others. It's open to debate. That's why so frequently it is dealt with by sending the offending party to a one day seminar on sensitivity in the workplace instead of firing and public shaming.
I'll give Coach a benefit of the doubt until something more concrete is revealed and confirmed.
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Post by tylerbreezee on Mar 6, 2018 12:20:05 GMT -5
Coach - “Hey do you want anything for lunch? I’m buying for the office”
Girl - “Uhm I have a boyfriend”
In the news months later*
Girl - “He just wouldn’t stop harassing me, I felt sexually abused and feared for my safety at work”
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Post by Lorenzo Alcazar on Mar 6, 2018 13:01:56 GMT -5
The human race is going to die off if men become afraid to approach women. God forbig you ask somebody out who isn't interested,...you get accused of harassment and sexual misconduct.
I'm not saying there aren't awful people out there who legit do harass people....but I think things are blown up and taken out of context more now when in the past they wouldn't be.
It has very much turned into a "men are the root of all evil" society. I think sometimes women are expecting all men to be so evil that they took for the bad traits, and when you go looking for something, you're determined to find it, even if it isn't there.
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Post by Angel Beast on Mar 6, 2018 13:02:13 GMT -5
When news broke about Enzo he was suspended immediately. Then news broke that he knew he was under investigation and WWE didn’t know till the accusations came out. That’s why Enzo was fired.
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Post by blissfan4life on Mar 6, 2018 13:05:44 GMT -5
Enzo was fired for not telling WWE About the investigation.
Its gross to automatically not believe the accuser so I believe her.
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Post by k5 on Mar 6, 2018 13:30:54 GMT -5
WWE fired Enzo for not reporting the issue with the office. All backstage gossip and possible heat aside, had he told someone about it, he would likley still be collecting checks today. I’m still mad WWE dropped Hogan. I like when a company stands behind its employees and treats them as an innocent person until proven other wise. Any company that immediatly drops someone due to alligations, just makes that person look even more guilty. Coach doesn’t seem like the creep, but, I remember back in the day Lillian would get his goat on commentary and he was always first to say something about her. Enzo was suspended for not telling them. He was fired after it came out what it was about what about this do you not understand? he was fired because he failed to inform his employer of a serious allegation brought against him. that is grounds for firing. if coach’s allegations are proven, or more serious ones emerge, he will be suspended or possibly fired.
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Post by Codyverse: Tag Team Champion on Mar 6, 2018 13:52:07 GMT -5
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Post by BSR on Mar 6, 2018 14:00:18 GMT -5
Bs...
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Post by The American Daydream on Mar 6, 2018 14:02:58 GMT -5
Enzo was fired for not telling WWE About the investigation.
Its gross to automatically not believe the accuser so I believe her. it's highly ignorant to just believe something like that without proof, motive, etc. Please I never try to become a lawyer or police officer.
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Post by blissfan4life on Mar 6, 2018 14:26:06 GMT -5
Enzo was fired for not telling WWE About the investigation.
Its gross to automatically not believe the accuser so I believe her. it's highly ignorant to just believe something like that without proof, motive, etc. Please I never try to become a lawyer or police officer. I have to disagree because Accusers shouldn't b3e made out to be liars just off the bat.
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