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Post by The Brain on Apr 19, 2018 18:03:04 GMT -5
Was watching this earlier and during a Benoit/Malenko vs Chavo/Kaz Hayashi match Schiavone out of nowhere rips into Mike Tenay and Larry Zbyszko on commentary. This was during the time Ric Flair was ''President''. Tenay was questioning Flair in charge so that's when Tony started heeling it up. It really felt out of nowhere but it was interesting to say the least.
I know TNA tried having a heel Schiavone in 2003 but imagine if he was a heel in a WCW setting. Anyway nothing came of it as week later Tenay became lead on Thunder but man it makes you think what could've been if they followed up on this. |
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Post by havoc7179 on Apr 20, 2018 14:18:34 GMT -5
The more I watch old episodes of Nitro and Thunder the more I see Schiavone doing what he could to make his partners look like fools. I think he was just a jackass at times.
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Post by The Brain on Apr 20, 2018 18:03:23 GMT -5
The more I watch old episodes of Nitro and Thunder the more I see Schiavone doing what he could to make his partners look like fools. I think he was just a jackass at times.Yeah it seemed that way especially in the late 90s. One time that immediately comes to mind is when Gorilla Monsoon died and Tony was against giving him an on-air tribute due to him never working for WCW but then Heenan stepped in and demanded it.
Back on topic I'm surprised the company didn't turn em during this time as Flair's official ''commentator''. I think it could've worked out.
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Post by KRAYZIE BONE on Apr 20, 2018 23:24:50 GMT -5
The more I watch old episodes of Nitro and Thunder the more I see Schiavone doing what he could to make his partners look like fools. I think he was just a jackass at times.Yeah it seemed that way especially in the late 90s. One time that immediately comes to mind is when Gorilla Monsoon died and Tony was against giving him an on-air tribute due to him never working for WCW but then Heenan stepped in and demanded it.
Back on topic I'm surprised the company didn't turn em during this time as Flair's official ''commentator''. I think it could've worked out.
Im pretty sure Tony explained this on his podcast and that wasnt the case at all. |
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Post by The Brain on Apr 21, 2018 9:39:59 GMT -5
Yeah it seemed that way especially in the late 90s. One time that immediately comes to mind is when Gorilla Monsoon died and Tony was against giving him an on-air tribute due to him never working for WCW but then Heenan stepped in and demanded it.
Back on topic I'm surprised the company didn't turn em during this time as Flair's official ''commentator''. I think it could've worked out.
Im pretty sure Tony explained this on his podcast and that wasnt the case at all. I never listened to his podcast so can't comment there. All I know at one time there was legit heat between the two. |
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Post by drifter on Apr 21, 2018 13:14:03 GMT -5
Im pretty sure Tony explained this on his podcast and that wasnt the case at all. I never listened to his podcast so can't comment there. All I know at one time there was legit heat between the two. From when Schiavone did JR's podcast, and he talks about the heat, and how he deserves anything negative Heenan had said about him, and at the end, talks about the Gorilla Monsoon bit on Nitro. |
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Post by The Brain on Apr 21, 2018 13:28:27 GMT -5
I never listened to his podcast so can't comment there. All I know at one time there was legit heat between the two. From when Schiavone did JR's podcast, and he talks about the heat, and how he deserves anything negative Heenan had said about him, and at the end, talks about the Gorilla Monsoon bit on Nitro. Well props to him for owning up to his mistakes all those years ago. Don't get me wrong I've always been a Schiavone fan as far as his commentary goes but at times you could tell he could be a douche. |
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Post by drifter on Apr 21, 2018 13:59:38 GMT -5
From when Schiavone did JR's podcast, and he talks about the heat, and how he deserves anything negative Heenan had said about him, and at the end, talks about the Gorilla Monsoon bit on Nitro. Well props to him for owning up to his mistakes all those years ago. Don't get me wrong I've always been a Schiavone fan as far as his commentary goes but at times you could tell he could be a douche. Yeah, he's a rarity in the wrestling business, by owning up to being wrong. More times than not, you see guys that will try to blame other people, or say they were not wrong in what they did, but he actually takes the blame for doing what he did, in hurting his relationship with Bobby. |
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Post by cordless2016 on Apr 21, 2018 21:59:58 GMT -5
Schiavone can eat s***. He can apologize all he wants but he was a huge a** in the 90s. He treated Bobby, one of the greatest performers and commentators ever, like literal crap. Was never a fan of his commentary either.
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Post by Nivro™ on Apr 21, 2018 22:11:19 GMT -5
Tony in a way had a very good reason to be the way he did. You have to remember Tony was the voice of WCW/NWA until Crockett bought out Mid South and they drug Jim Ross in and made it a 3 man announce team (which sucked back then too)...Tony was basically ran off for no rhyme or reason and replaced. With WCW bringing in "anyone they could" and having already been unnecessarily pushed aside once before, I would have became defensive of my spot too. You're taking money out of my pockets & food off my kids table.
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Post by The Brain on Apr 21, 2018 23:00:54 GMT -5
Schiavone can eat s***. He can apologize all he wants but he was a huge a** in the 90s. He treated Bobby, one of the greatest performers and commentators ever, like literal crap. Was never a fan of his commentary either. TRUTH!!! |
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Post by k5 on Apr 22, 2018 12:16:27 GMT -5
i love heenan, but I can understand why schiavone would get frustrated. bobby acted like a total clown in wcw for the most part unless Mr Perfect or Goldberg were in there.
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Post by KRAYZIE BONE on Apr 23, 2018 19:23:52 GMT -5
Schiavone can eat s***. He can apologize all he wants but he was a huge a** in the 90s. He treated Bobby, one of the greatest performers and commentators ever, like literal crap. Was never a fan of his commentary either. Heenan was a shadow of himself in WCW. Dude even appeared on a PPV drunk. It is what it is |
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Post by The Brain on Apr 23, 2018 19:38:41 GMT -5
Schiavone can eat s***. He can apologize all he wants but he was a huge a** in the 90s. He treated Bobby, one of the greatest performers and commentators ever, like literal crap. Was never a fan of his commentary either. . Dude even appeared on a PPV drunk. It is what it is That's because of Bischoff. He didn't want him to be the same way he was in the WWF. Which is BS in my book because if there is one guy you should never change as far as commentary goes it's Heenan. |
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Post by KRAYZIE BONE on Apr 23, 2018 19:52:28 GMT -5
Heenan was a shadow of himself in WCW. Dude even appeared on a PPV drunk. It is what it is That's because of Bischoff. He didn't want him to be the same way he was in the WWF. Which is BS in my book because if there is one guy you should never change as far as commentary goes it's Heenan. Its always easy to blame someone else. Did Bischoff get Heenan drunk before a PPV? He just didnt put his all into his work. The blame imo, is on Heenan. Even if he was saddled to a degree, you can still make the effort to make it as good as you can. Heenan didnt do it. He "phoned it home" is what most people use to describe his time in WCW. And thats a shame. |
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Post by The Brain on Apr 23, 2018 20:02:43 GMT -5
That's because of Bischoff. He didn't want him to be the same way he was in the WWF. Which is BS in my book because if there is one guy you should never change as far as commentary goes it's Heenan. Its always easy to blame someone else. Did Bischoff get Heenan drunk before a PPV? He just didnt put his all into his work. The blame imo, is on Heenan. Even if he was saddled to a degree, you can still make the effort to make it as good as you can. Heenan didnt do it. He "phoned it home" is what most people use to describe his time in WCW. And thats a shame. I do agree in those last few years he was there he wasn't giving it his all but you gotta remember how toxic WCW was during those years backstage wise. I'm sure he was miserable and just said screw it.
I recall a shoot he did after WCW folded in which he basically said how frustrating it was to work there.
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Post by madness1 on Apr 27, 2018 21:02:46 GMT -5
That 3 man group is incrible compared to anything WWE has currently
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Post by The Brain on Apr 28, 2018 12:34:05 GMT -5
That 3 man group is incrible compared to anything WWE has currently I agree. Even though I'll always prefer the 2 man booth, the old 3 man announce teams from back in the day DESTROY the current ones in WWE. |
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