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Post by Showstopper on May 11, 2018 11:34:08 GMT -5
Also, making some figures store-exclusive is f*ing DUMB. Whoever's idea that was is an idiot. Yeah, limit your product to ONE store instead of multiple stores. Genius stuff, Mattel. The retailers are the ones who ask for exclusives, Genius. And last time I checked, Mattel can say no, genius.
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Post by Showstopper on May 11, 2018 11:34:57 GMT -5
This is why I rarely pre-order figures. Just not worth it most of the time to me. Also, making some figures store-exclusive is f*ing DUMB. Whoever's idea that was is an idiot. Yeah, limit your product to ONE store instead of multiple stores. Genius stuff, Mattel. Store exclusives have been around for years and aren’t a mattel idea. Also as already mentioned, the stores ask for the exclusives to get traffic into the store. Great. Mattel can say no to exclusives.
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Post by Fighter Hayabusa on May 11, 2018 11:36:38 GMT -5
$30 for what they’re offering, the line shouldn’t continue. People should wait for clearance and let the line die. Buying the figures at that price sends a message to Mattel that they can charge $30 for a regular elite and we will pay. Then soon Walmart, Target, Amazon, etc exclusives will be $30. Then don't buy them. Vote with your wallet. I will say this, to start this line with Shawn, is not a good start. Savage is kinda ok, don't like the lame outfit considering he's had WAY more colorful and intricate outfits. Won't get Shawn , won't get Savage (after the 20th savage, I'm burned out and tired of them) BUT Honky is what the line SHOULD be and SHOULD have started with. I'll buy THAT but my supporting that figure, it might be too late if Shawn and Savage fail to sell. Then MAYBE Mattel will learn their lesson. Who knows. What’s the difference between waiting til they go on clearance or not buying at all? Either method is voting with your wallet. You’re telling Mattel and GameStop that you’re not paying $30 for that line of figures. And either will lead to the death of the line.
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Post by Mr. #1derful 🇵🇸 on May 11, 2018 11:39:36 GMT -5
The retailers are the ones who ask for exclusives, Genius. And last time I checked, Mattel can say no, genius. Stores pay for exclusivity.
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Post by Iron Bison on May 11, 2018 11:39:48 GMT -5
The retailers are the ones who ask for exclusives, Genius. And last time I checked, Mattel can say no, genius. Yeah, a corporation is gonna say no to making money. Give me a fn break.
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Post by Iron Bison on May 11, 2018 11:46:08 GMT -5
Then don't buy them. Vote with your wallet. I will say this, to start this line with Shawn, is not a good start. Savage is kinda ok, don't like the lame outfit considering he's had WAY more colorful and intricate outfits. Won't get Shawn , won't get Savage (after the 20th savage, I'm burned out and tired of them) BUT Honky is what the line SHOULD be and SHOULD have started with. I'll buy THAT but my supporting that figure, it might be too late if Shawn and Savage fail to sell. Then MAYBE Mattel will learn their lesson. Who knows. What’s the difference between waiting til they go on clearance or not buying at all? Either method is voting with your wallet. You’re telling Mattel and GameStop that you’re not paying $30 for that line of figures. And either will lead to the death of the line. Because now the thing in question is the what they're starting the line with. If they start off with a weak figure, chances are it's not gonna last. Clearance is that the line is going away and if that's the end result then it's BECAUSE Mattel didn't give us something that we felt justified the $30 price tag. I'm only saying by ME buying the 3rd exclusive in the line (HTM) it may be to late to save the line if Shawn and Savage fail to sell. That should give Mattel the idea that maybe they shouldn't start the line so weakly
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Post by kennyw86v2 on May 11, 2018 11:46:17 GMT -5
Because when you constantly people just to maximize money, it eventually comes crashing down. It might be 20 more years, but the way Mattel does things will catch up to them. I don't get into the scalper arguments, because I've seen people on here buy 6 of the same figure for some illogical reason. But that said....tnf 3...specifically Rollins...still has never shown up within 30 miles of me. One store just outside that range had it once but it was the only one gone when I got there. That's never gonna show up now. Many people have similar issues with stote exclusives. I get why they do it. But they need to get its bad for customer relations. But I buy almost exclusively from Amazon. Retail or less. Sometimes way less. So I'm good. You can order TNF Rollins in Amazon right now for $16. People who buy 6 of the same figure, I agree about. No reason for it. I get 1 or 2 and I'm good for a lifetime. As far as "crashing down", then just let it happen. If Mattel loses money and eventually the license so be it. They will have learned from their mistakes and won't have another chance to make them again I got it. From there. It's just an example of exclusives not getting stocked. I just wish they'd do better. And they won't because some people are willing to pay 60 bucks on eBay for crap of they can't find it rather than stopping all together.
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Post by Iron Bison on May 11, 2018 11:49:35 GMT -5
You can order TNF Rollins in Amazon right now for $16. People who buy 6 of the same figure, I agree about. No reason for it. I get 1 or 2 and I'm good for a lifetime. As far as "crashing down", then just let it happen. If Mattel loses money and eventually the license so be it. They will have learned from their mistakes and won't have another chance to make them again I got it. From there. It's just an example of exclusives not getting stocked. I just wish they'd do better. And they won't because some people are willing to pay 60 bucks on eBay for crap of they can't find it rather than stopping all together. I blame the retailer not Mattel in that instance. I don't care if it's a "A,B,C or D"-performing store. EVERY location should get 1 or 2 cases and 1 or more refresh when the initial shipments sells. There's no reason a store should not get 1 single case of it. And they can just adjust their orders according to that stores sales.
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Post by Fighter Hayabusa on May 11, 2018 12:13:48 GMT -5
What’s the difference between waiting til they go on clearance or not buying at all? Either method is voting with your wallet. You’re telling Mattel and GameStop that you’re not paying $30 for that line of figures. And either will lead to the death of the line. Because now the thing in question is the what they're starting the line with. If they start off with a weak figure, chances are it's not gonna last. Clearance is that the line is going away and if that's the end result then it's BECAUSE Mattel didn't give us something that we felt justified the $30 price tag. I'm only saying by ME buying the 3rd exclusive in the line (HTM) it may be to late to save the line if Shawn and Savage fail to sell. That should give Mattel the idea that maybe they shouldn't start the line so weakly Other than Warrior, Macho and HBK are the best selling Legends/Flashbacks. HBK’s attire choice may be questionable but both are better to start off the line than HTM who is nowhere near the same level of popularity as the other two. The reason why this line will fail is because of the price point of the figures moreso than who they choose to kick it off. $30 is a ridiculous amount to charge for a regular elite in a fancy box.
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Post by aggressiveperfectpoor on May 11, 2018 12:17:16 GMT -5
How do we know GameStop doesn't have some say in the figures they want (yes you could make an argument for why would they pick someone like Honky Tonk Man) but Savage and Shawn are bigger names.
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Post by Iron Bison on May 11, 2018 12:45:24 GMT -5
How do we know GameStop doesn't have some say in the figures they want (yes you could make an argument for why would they pick someone like Honky Tonk Man) but Savage and Shawn are bigger names. They are bigger names for sure, but why are their figures so underwhelming? Why didn't they get the HTM level of detail?
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Post by kennyw86v2 on May 11, 2018 13:10:52 GMT -5
I got it. From there. It's just an example of exclusives not getting stocked. I just wish they'd do better. And they won't because some people are willing to pay 60 bucks on eBay for crap of they can't find it rather than stopping all together. I blame the retailer not Mattel in that instance. I don't care if it's a "A,B,C or D"-performing store. EVERY location should get 1 or 2 cases and 1 or more refresh when the initial shipments sells. There's no reason a store should not get 1 single case of it. And they can just adjust their orders according to that stores sales. Can't argue that. I guess I'm just more of all everyone involved person lol. For better or worse.
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Post by aggressiveperfectpoor on May 11, 2018 13:27:18 GMT -5
How do we know GameStop doesn't have some say in the figures they want (yes you could make an argument for why would they pick someone like Honky Tonk Man) but Savage and Shawn are bigger names. They are bigger names for sure, but why are their figures so underwhelming? Why didn't they get the HTM level of detail? I think part of it is that those won the fan poll and they needed somewhere to put them. As for the Honky soft goods. That's a great question. BTW. I just realized I didn't put a question mark in my post and I've done that several times as of late and it's bothering me to an unnecessary level.
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Post by Nivro™ on May 11, 2018 13:39:20 GMT -5
The retailers are the ones who ask for exclusives, Genius. And last time I checked, Mattel can say no, genius. Why would Mattel say no to them? That's just stupid. That's essentially a business saying no to money...if you have a business and you say no to money guess what....you wont have a business.
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Post by stc13 on May 11, 2018 14:12:25 GMT -5
And last time I checked, Mattel can say no, genius. Why would Mattel say no to them? That's just stupid. That's essentially a business saying no to money...if you have a business and you say no to money guess what....you wont have a business. Some people on here act like Mattel "owes" us something. I think the line is doing far better than anticipated, especially given that wrestling isn't exactly in a boom period right now. Mattel and WWE are both making money, and collectors are getting more figures per year than ever before. There are dedicated lines for NXT and flashbacks, which collectors have been calling for for years. People complain that they want new characters in the line, and we get figures like TBK and Red Rooster. But then others complain that the figures will rot, or that they're too hard to get, or (somehow) both. You can't please everybody, but I think all things considered this is an amazing time to be a wrestling figure collector. Enjoy it while it lasts.
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Post by Showstopper on May 11, 2018 14:36:34 GMT -5
And last time I checked, Mattel can say no, genius. Yeah, a corporation is gonna say no to making money. Give me a fn break. They can probably sell more of those figures if they're not exclusive to the one store and are in multiple stores.
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Post by Ultimate Figure Collector on May 11, 2018 15:35:04 GMT -5
Store exclusives have been around for years and aren’t a mattel idea. Also as already mentioned, the stores ask for the exclusives to get traffic into the store. Great. Mattel can say no to exclusives. A great company never says no to good money. Unfortunately most of you are bitter because you can’t find the store exclusives.
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Post by elitecollector89 on May 11, 2018 15:53:32 GMT -5
So for me I love a great figure to put on display. The boxes are awesome. I don't mind spending 30$ on them, especially when it will be slow releases of 1 or 2 figures every few months. I will pick up 1 macho. A few of Shawn and honkytonk. Hope to see more.
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Post by disorder on May 11, 2018 16:21:02 GMT -5
You just justified why Mattel does it. Why would they turn down profit? And why keep complaining about it? If you want them to listen, then don't give Mattel you're money, then. I personally have never NOT been able to find exclusives and I live in well populated scalper towns. Just be persistent and you'll find them. DON'T put them back thinking "oh, I'll get it later". That just causes regret later. Because when you constantly people just to maximize money, it eventually comes crashing down. It might be 20 more years, but the way Mattel does things will catch up to them. I don't get into the scalper arguments, because I've seen people on here buy 6 of the same figure for some illogical reason. But that said....tnf 3...specifically Rollins...still has never shown up within 30 miles of me. One store just outside that range had it once but it was the only one gone when I got there. That's never gonna show up now. Many people have similar issues with stote exclusives. I get why they do it. But they need to get its bad for customer relations. But I buy almost exclusively from Amazon. Retail or less. Sometimes way less. So I'm good. They’re not screwing anyone. The stores wanting exclusives helps the line and the stores. It gives mattel a chance to put out more figures and ones they otherwise couldn’t put out before. They are one of the biggest toy companies in the world. They got that way because they know how to deliver products people want. Because you can’t find any exclusives, does not mean they are not found anywhere else.
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Post by LA Times on May 11, 2018 16:45:49 GMT -5
Yeah, a corporation is gonna say no to making money. Give me a fn break. They can probably sell more of those figures if they're not exclusive to the one store and are in multiple stores. Not necessarily. Figures like Ringmaster or Tito Santana would just be rotting in greater numbers in more stores if they werent store exclusives.
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