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Post by ThugSuperstar on Jul 6, 2007 14:03:05 GMT -5
The Sabres had to re-sign Vanek...they really had no choice. They couldn't let Drury, Briere, and Vanek all leave their team in the same offseason, but I do find it somewhat surprising that they only made an attempt to bring back Vanek. They could have thrown the money they gave him at Briere or Drury instead, but I guess they were 100% convinced they weren't coming back.
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Post by Trypod on Jul 6, 2007 14:14:40 GMT -5
Yeah, The Sabres matched the offer. Oh, I know. But still. It's grossly overpaying for Vanek. Especially when you consider that he made $600k this past season. Some people find it a dirty move, but it's not like Lowe's breaking the rules at all. The option is there to send these offer sheets to RFA's. It's not a greasy loophole or 'crack' in the system. Yet people (mostly Buffalo) are calling for Lowe's head on a stick.
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Post by Kemp2k on Jul 6, 2007 14:20:39 GMT -5
Like many said, Buffalo are going to be so screwed next year..
Hell, it won't even be the same team, so many players are just...leaving.. and <3 Kevin Lowe.
Lowe is TRYING so hard to sign players for the Oilers, I don't blame him at all though.. He had to do what he tried to do..
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Post by Trypod on Jul 6, 2007 14:28:56 GMT -5
I know it's Eklund.. but it's being said hat Raycroft might be traded soon to clear room for Peca or.. Yashin?
Eh..
If Yashin was willing to come dirt cheap, then why not? At least you know there's guaranteed chemistry between him and Blake. Though granted, that's not why they signed Blake; they're hoping for him to click with Mats. Still, you'd think JFJ would get it by now that, signing washed up players in hopes that they have a comeback year, just doesn't work. At least not for Fergie and the Leafs.
But overall, I'd be against a Yashin signing. Peca, please. He was fantastic on the penalty kill in his 30-ish games he played. Once he was injured, Toronto's penalty killing was embarrassing.
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Post by Chosen1 on Jul 6, 2007 17:37:41 GMT -5
Yeah, The Sabres matched the offer. Oh, I know. But still. It's grossly overpaying for Vanek. Especially when you consider that he made $600k this past season. Some people find it a dirty move, but it's not like Lowe's breaking the rules at all. The option is there to send these offer sheets to RFA's. It's not a greasy loophole or 'crack' in the system. Yet people (mostly Buffalo) are calling for Lowe's head on a stick. It's not against the rules, but it's sort of an unwritten rule. Doing a thing like that really messes up the market. It was bad enough before, but in the cap era it's even worse. GMs look down upon which is why it's very very rare. If Lowe needs help at the trade deadline he might have some trouble now.
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Post by sim on Jul 6, 2007 17:41:23 GMT -5
I'm not sure I'd call Lowe's move "smart". Basically all he did was up the market even more then it already is, and on top of that, he just screwed himself and his team over. Who the hell is going to want to barter with a GM that does stuff like this?
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Post by Trypod on Jul 6, 2007 20:22:21 GMT -5
Bah. The Rangers messed up the market, throwing $57 million (!?) at two players.
And Philly pulled it last year with Kesler, and they've had no trouble making deals. Granted, that was Bobby Clarke and Holmgren's in charge now.
Edmonton's having trouble attracting free agents now, anyway. So why not? It definitely shows desperation in K.Lowe, though. It's a shame that the team fell apart after such a run to the finals. The whole Pronger mess really set this team off track. And the Smyth trade didn't help in the least. Too bad.
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Post by ThugSuperstar on Jul 6, 2007 20:28:04 GMT -5
The NHL is going to blame the Rangers once they get **** for the joke the salary cap is, but I don't think the Rangers deserve all the blame. Philly should be blamed for the market that was set this offseason when they gave Briere his deal. Not to mention the fact the other ridiculous contracts given out, such as Tom Poti's $4 million deal.
Anyway, the Rangers have elected to take Henrik Lundqvist to arbitration. I'm not worried or anything unless they actually go to a hearing, but I'm not expecting it to go that far. Supposedly, the Rangers did this so that a scenario like the Thomas Vanek signing wouldn't happen with Lundqvist, meaning that now teams wouldn't be able to try and sign him to an offer sheet and make the Rangers match it. I think it gets settled before they got to a hearing...
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Post by Trypod on Jul 6, 2007 20:33:03 GMT -5
The fact that the cap got raised this high in the first place is ridiculous. At this rate, another lockout will happen.
The first year with the salary cap was really great. All these 'little' teams were getting star players and everything was balanced. Now it's gone back to the big money teams grabbing stars at will. This past season wasn't bad either. But next year, some one could potentially make $10 million on average per year! Crazy.
When you see elite players like Joe Thornton and Jarome Iginla take $7 million when you know they could command something as high as $10 mil, then you know that price tags are getting too high.
Now it's like nothing has changed. Toronto, Detroit, Philly, NYR, etc.. they'll be throwing their money at all kinds of free agents within the next few years at this rate, and it'll be like nothing has changed since the pre-lockout days.
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Post by Jean-Ralphio on Jul 6, 2007 20:36:44 GMT -5
Wasnt one of the reasons for the strike because the cap wasnt high enough and the players werent getting what they thought they deserved?
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Post by christian1cage on Jul 6, 2007 21:47:25 GMT -5
Honestly, this is a good thing for the league. Sure, it's unfair to the smaller market teams. But the NHL really needs big market teams like the Flyers, Rangers, Kings, Wings, Leafs, etc to be good. Nobody has given a flying about the stanley cup for the last number of years.
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Post by Jean-Ralphio on Jul 6, 2007 21:49:46 GMT -5
The NHL needs the Original 6 teams and the big market teams to get back upto the top of the league
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Post by Lk™ on Jul 7, 2007 15:32:05 GMT -5
lol, now Eklund's saying Lindros might be going to Vancouver.
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Post by Trypod on Jul 7, 2007 17:52:01 GMT -5
Y'know.. I still wouldn't mind having Lindros around. If you sign him to be an energy guy on the third/fourth line, he could be effective, and might even surprise here and there, notching a handful of points along the way.
A contract between $750-900k would seem fair enough. I wish the Leafs actually re-signed him last year. The Lindros/Toronto experiment could have been a lot better if they gave it more than just 35 games. It's a shame it ended the way it did.
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Post by 450punk on Jul 8, 2007 14:00:05 GMT -5
my selanne jersey came in the other day and it looks great, next up is a new sabres jersey but no sure who to get yet.....
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Post by sim on Jul 8, 2007 14:59:16 GMT -5
I'd take Lindros at under a mil too, if I was a team that didn't have any youth to step in.
Y'know, I was thinking, if I'm an Anaheim Ducks fan, I'm pretty dissapointed with who the replacements for Neidermayer and Selanne are. Bertuzzi and Schneider, while capable, just can't replicate who they are supposed to be replacing. Schneider is much slower then Scott, and he's also a defensive liability unless paired with Pronger. Bertuzzi is slow, didn't do much in the playoffs, and is really only good for throwing bodies around, if he decides to hit. I just saw a lot of floating in the playoffs, much like Shanny.
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Post by christian1cage on Jul 8, 2007 15:20:40 GMT -5
I read a report saying that the Oilers are highly intersted in Zach Parise. So I'm guessing that the worst case scenario for the Devils would be if the Oilers signed him to an overpaid contract for an offer sheet and then the Devils would have to match it and overpay for him.
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Post by vandutch on Jul 9, 2007 7:57:29 GMT -5
I know it's Eklund.. but it's being said hat Raycroft might be traded soon to clear room for Peca or.. Yashin? Eh.. If Yashin was willing to come dirt cheap, then why not? At least you know there's guaranteed chemistry between him and Blake. Though granted, that's not why they signed Blake; they're hoping for him to click with Mats. Still, you'd think JFJ would get it by now that, signing washed up players in hopes that they have a comeback year, just doesn't work. At least not for Fergie and the Leafs. I wouldn't mind Yashin or Lindros signing on with the leafs for the 2nd or 3rd lines, however they would have to come really cheap. I think they both have too much pride to sign a small contract though. But overall, I'd be against a Yashin signing. Peca, please. He was fantastic on the penalty kill in his 30-ish games he played. Once he was injured, Toronto's penalty killing was embarrassing.
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Post by KMIS™ on Jul 9, 2007 11:39:35 GMT -5
Dallas Drake to Detroit, dude.
I'll take whatever we can to help our offense.
Plus he hits, which is welcomed by me.
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Post by ThugSuperstar on Jul 9, 2007 11:53:28 GMT -5
Why must Glen Sather toy with my emotions and make me worry about what will happen with Lundqvist? If we don't work out a long-term deal with him and he hits the open market, I'm going to be one unhappy camper.
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