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Post by Deleted on Jun 18, 2018 13:46:15 GMT -5
I'm passively paying attention with no US. Can't say I'm rooting for anyone, except maybe against Russia like everyone else. Not everyone
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Post by Deleted on Jun 18, 2018 13:46:54 GMT -5
Can't believe Mexico beat Germany. Mexico may actually have a chance of winning World Cup. I lol'd
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Post by Deleted on Jun 18, 2018 13:48:11 GMT -5
It's very hard to support England with morons like Kyle Walker giving away a ridiculous penalty. So I'm backing Croatia, Serbia and Russia with a soft spot for Iceland
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Post by Sting on Jun 19, 2018 1:47:52 GMT -5
It's very hard to support England with morons like Kyle Walker giving away a ridiculous penalty. So I'm backing Croatia, Serbia and Russia with a soft spot for Iceland I get you. I don't understand why we are playing a right full-back at RCB. He made a challenge in the box that he normally makes out of the box. I'm a Man Utd fan but can't stand Young at left wing-back. He always gets exploited down that flank because he is not a natural defender. I get that Rose hasn't been fit or firing on all cylinders this season but he needs to come back in the team. We got so many other issues I can't even bother mentioning. Once we come up against a half decent team who move around in the final third we will be destroyed. I want either Portugal or Brazil to win it. Although, Iceland would be jokes.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2018 3:14:46 GMT -5
It's very hard to support England with morons like Kyle Walker giving away a ridiculous penalty. So I'm backing Croatia, Serbia and Russia with a soft spot for Iceland I get you. I don't understand why we are playing a right full-back at RCB. He made a challenge in the box that he normally makes out of the box. I'm a Man Utd fan but can't stand Young at left wing-back. He always gets exploited down that flank because he is not a natural defender. I get that Rose hasn't been fit or firing on all cylinders this season but he needs to come back in the team. We got so many other issues I can't even bother mentioning. Once we come up against a half decent team who move around in the final third we will be destroyed. I want either Portugal or Brazil to win it. Although, Iceland would be jokes. It's almost like England are going to try and emulate Brazil from years ago, defend horribly but as long as they score more than the opposition it doesn't matter
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Post by hbkjason on Jun 19, 2018 4:37:48 GMT -5
It is no wonder the rest of the UK cannot be bothered with the England team. The commentating and analysis is freaking brutal. I have a good friend who is Scotish who always says he likes the England team, just not all the bollocks that go with it.
I do not get all the praise that was heaped on England for those opening ten minutes or so. They should have been 3 or 4 up! Their ability to finish is absolutely dreadful. I would never have started Sterling over Rashford in a million years. 9/10 Sterling will make the wrong decision in the final third.
It was not a bad performance at all, but if you fail to put away as many clear-cut chances as they did against one of the bigger teams, you will be punished. If England play like this against Belgium they are in big trouble.
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Post by Sting on Jun 19, 2018 12:27:06 GMT -5
It is no wonder the rest of the UK cannot be bothered with the England team. The commentating and analysis is freaking brutal. I have a good friend who is Scotish who always says he likes the England team, just not all the bollocks that go with it. I do not get all the praise that was heaped on England for those opening ten minutes or so. They should have been 3 or 4 up! Their ability to finish is absolutely dreadful. I would never have started Sterling over Rashford in a million years. 9/10 Sterling will make the wrong decision in the final third. It was not a bad performance at all, but if you fail to put away as many clear-cut chances as they did against one of the bigger teams, you will be punished. If England play like this against Belgium they are in big trouble. Rashford was just coming back from a little injury ... but I bet you he will still start with Sterling next game despite him missing almost an open goal. We are too reliant on Kane for our goals. Exactly like Spurs. We will never win a competition like that.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 21, 2018 2:39:26 GMT -5
I know they can't go the distance but Russia look so strong, they're playing easily the best football of the tournament
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Post by Sting on Jun 22, 2018 3:18:25 GMT -5
I know they can't go the distance but Russia look so strong, they're playing easily the best football of the tournament By far the best football. They may reach the semis if they get a lucky draw.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2018 3:22:22 GMT -5
I know they can't go the distance but Russia look so strong, they're playing easily the best football of the tournament By far the best football. They may reach the semis if they get a lucky draw. Croatia have to be worth a cheeky punt
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Post by Sting on Jun 22, 2018 4:12:48 GMT -5
By far the best football. They may reach the semis if they get a lucky draw. Croatia have to be worth a cheeky punt They have the best midfield. Anyone that is going to beat them will have to go direct. You can't outplay Modric and Rakitic. They definitely have a big chance, probably the favourite dark horses.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2018 4:14:47 GMT -5
Croatia have to be worth a cheeky punt They have the best midfield. Anyone that is going to beat them will have to go direct. You can't outplay Modric and Rakitic. They definitely have a big chance, probably the favourite dark horses. I'm gutted their game was on the BBC I'd loved to have seen Slaven Bilic's reaction to their win
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Post by pauloso on Jun 22, 2018 4:42:16 GMT -5
It is amazing how poor Argentina have been, the difference in reactions between Messi and Ronaldo has been telling...
Am hoping the Swedes stuff Germany tomorrow.
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Post by Sting on Jun 22, 2018 4:58:14 GMT -5
It is amazing how poor Argentina have been, the difference in reactions between Messi and Ronaldo has been telling... Am hoping the Swedes stuff Germany tomorrow. Me too. I wish Zlatan makes a comeback for that game lol
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Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2018 5:31:09 GMT -5
It is amazing how poor Argentina have been, the difference in reactions between Messi and Ronaldo has been telling... Am hoping the Swedes stuff Germany tomorrow. I read something Gary Neville retweeted and it hit the nail on the head exactly, Messi has benefited from being part of the best midfield the world has have ever seen, or something along those lines, and it's true, take Messi away from the quality at Barcelona and he's nowhere near Ronaldos quality, Ronaldo has done what he does in the Premier League, the best league in the world, Spain has 2 good teams, the gulf in quality between Ronaldo and Messi is huge
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Post by E N I G M A on Jun 22, 2018 7:07:22 GMT -5
It's been such a strange World Cup so far, NONE of the heavy favourites have played a good game so far! Ok France won twice, but it was with tooth and nail, and against 2 pretty bad teams... I usually root for Italy but since they didn't manage to qualify, I don't care who wins, as long as it's not Portugal or Germany :-P
Idk how it is in the rest of Europe/the world, but when the Portuguese win a match they partying SO hard in the streets, it's close to witnessing a riot! Police has barely any control...
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Post by Sting on Jun 22, 2018 10:15:27 GMT -5
It is amazing how poor Argentina have been, the difference in reactions between Messi and Ronaldo has been telling... Am hoping the Swedes stuff Germany tomorrow. I read something Gary Neville retweeted and it hit the nail on the head exactly, Messi has benefited from being part of the best midfield the world has have ever seen, or something along those lines, and it's true, take Messi away from the quality at Barcelona and he's nowhere near Ronaldos quality, Ronaldo has done what he does in the Premier League, the best league in the world, Spain has 2 good teams, the gulf in quality between Ronaldo and Messi is huge I'm a Utd fan so I should be biased towards Ronaldo. But I have to say Messi is the best. Messi may have had the best midfield around him but Ronaldo has had an entire team geared towards him. Messi done it since day 1. 16 year old in the Champions League. Ronaldo didn't really become a world beater until 21. Even then, arguably, its only 3 years after that when he went to Madrid did he really become the world class player everyone talks about now. You could argue he has only scored as many goals as he has because the Madrid team has been built for the sole purpose of his goals, Man Utd were not. I think the last few years have been telling. Barca have won 4 of the last 6 La Ligas ... Real just the 1 ... and thats with Ronaldo and Madrid at their peak and Messi and Barca on the downfall (apparently). Say what you want about 3 Champions Leagues in a row etc, the best player does it week in and week out. 4 league titles over the 1, I would say, means Messi has done better. I think most people in Spain would tell you the League is more important than the Champions League. Guardiola said it. Real Madrid fired their manager for winning the Champions League and not La Liga. Messi has done better for his team, no doubt about it. Its very close between them and you could argue either way. I would say Ronaldo is one of the best finishers ever, but Messi is the best footballer ever. Anyone who doubts Messi to be the best just go and look at the multitude of times he has started from the centre of the pitch and then gone on a solo run with no help through pretty much an entire team and score. I don't even recall Ronaldo doing that once. Messi doesn't need the help, Ronaldo does.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2018 10:18:31 GMT -5
I read something Gary Neville retweeted and it hit the nail on the head exactly, Messi has benefited from being part of the best midfield the world has have ever seen, or something along those lines, and it's true, take Messi away from the quality at Barcelona and he's nowhere near Ronaldos quality, Ronaldo has done what he does in the Premier League, the best league in the world, Spain has 2 good teams, the gulf in quality between Ronaldo and Messi is huge I'm a Utd fan so I should be biased towards Ronaldo. But I have to say Messi is the best. Messi may have had the best midfield around him but Ronaldo has had an entire team geared towards him. Messi done it since day 1. 16 year old in the Champions League. Ronaldo didn't really become a world beater until 21. Even then, arguably, its only 3 years after that when he went to Madrid did he really become the world class player everyone talks about now. I think the last few years have been telling. Barca have won 4 of the last 6 La Ligas ... Real just the 1 ... and thats with Ronaldo and Madrid at their peak and Messi and Barca on the downfall (apparently). Say what you want about 3 Champions Leagues in a row etc, the best player does it week in and week out. 4 league titles over the 1, I would say, means Messi has done better. I think most people in Spain would tell you the League is more important than the Champions League. Guardiola said it. Real Madrid fired their manager for winning the Champions League and not La Liga. Messi has done better for his team, no doubt about it. Its very close between them and you could argue either way. I would say Ronaldo is one of the best finishers ever, but Messi is the best footballer ever. Anyone who doubts Messi to be the best just go and look at the multitude of times he has started from the centre of the pitch and then gone on a solo run with no help through pretty much an entire team and score. I don't even recall Ronaldo doing that once. Messi doesn't need the help, Ronaldo does. The slumped shoulders of Messi, the lack of goals, the lack of anything exciting happening involving him, the fact Argentina are all but out says different I'm afraid. If I could have either in my team it'd be Ronaldo without a seconds hesitation
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Post by Sting on Jun 22, 2018 10:26:18 GMT -5
I'm a Utd fan so I should be biased towards Ronaldo. But I have to say Messi is the best. Messi may have had the best midfield around him but Ronaldo has had an entire team geared towards him. Messi done it since day 1. 16 year old in the Champions League. Ronaldo didn't really become a world beater until 21. Even then, arguably, its only 3 years after that when he went to Madrid did he really become the world class player everyone talks about now. I think the last few years have been telling. Barca have won 4 of the last 6 La Ligas ... Real just the 1 ... and thats with Ronaldo and Madrid at their peak and Messi and Barca on the downfall (apparently). Say what you want about 3 Champions Leagues in a row etc, the best player does it week in and week out. 4 league titles over the 1, I would say, means Messi has done better. I think most people in Spain would tell you the League is more important than the Champions League. Guardiola said it. Real Madrid fired their manager for winning the Champions League and not La Liga. Messi has done better for his team, no doubt about it. Its very close between them and you could argue either way. I would say Ronaldo is one of the best finishers ever, but Messi is the best footballer ever. Anyone who doubts Messi to be the best just go and look at the multitude of times he has started from the centre of the pitch and then gone on a solo run with no help through pretty much an entire team and score. I don't even recall Ronaldo doing that once. Messi doesn't need the help, Ronaldo does. The slumped shoulders of Messi, the lack of goals, the lack of anything exciting happening involving him, the fact Argentina are all but out says different I'm afraid. If I could have either in my team it'd be Ronaldo without a seconds hesitation Its not Messi's fault that his national manager is rubbish and that his team is a mess. Portugal are rubbish but at least the players know what they are doing and what their roles are. Besides, what does it matter that Argentina are flopping in this world cup? How does that make Ronaldo better than Messi? By your logic Andreas Christensen is a better player than Messi because Denmark have done better than Argentina at this world cup. Ask Ronaldo to put his trophies down on the table. Then ask Messi and see who has more.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2018 11:20:46 GMT -5
The slumped shoulders of Messi, the lack of goals, the lack of anything exciting happening involving him, the fact Argentina are all but out says different I'm afraid. If I could have either in my team it'd be Ronaldo without a seconds hesitation Its not Messi's fault that his national manager is rubbish and that his team is a mess. Portugal are rubbish but at least the players know what they are doing and what their roles are. Besides, what does it matter that Argentina are flopping in this world cup? How does that make Ronaldo better than Messi? By your logic Andreas Christensen is a better player than Messi because Denmark have done better than Argentina at this world cup. Ask Ronaldo to put his trophies down on the table. Then ask Messi and see who has more. Haha your one of those that blames the manager for their players failures. The debate will run forever, in my opinion Ronaldo is easily the better player, this world cup just co firms it for me. When Ronaldo wins this year's Ballon D'or they'll be tied on 5.
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