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Post by Kliquid on Jul 8, 2007 23:26:12 GMT -5
FINALLY !! I though I was the only Ortiz fan on the board lol You don't post in the MMA threads enough, then, because otherwise you'd know my love for Teets.
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Post by nascar on Jul 8, 2007 23:45:08 GMT -5
FINALLY !! I though I was the only Ortiz fan on the board lol You don't post in the MMA threads enough, then, because otherwise you'd know my love for Teets. That's probally becuz I just joined the form a week or 2 ago
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Post by cjd15 on Jul 9, 2007 0:01:28 GMT -5
Sean Sherk is unreal. I can't wait to see him face BJ Penn, as rumored. That's going to be two of my absolute favorite fighters in the world going at it. ^and always will be, Tito is a cocky, arrogant, prick who has no right to be. He talked **** about Liddell and Liddell knocked his ass out, he talked **** about Couture and you know what happened there as well, AND he pussed out against Dana White who wouldve knocked his ass out as well..... Chuck Liddell talked **** and Rampage whooped his ass -- again. What a surprise. Apparently Chuck Liddell sucks, too, judging by your theory. and he talked **** about Evans and Im sorry horrible call by the judges....Evans whooped that ass in the 2nd and 3rd round How did he whoop his ass? Did you even watch the fight? They both landed an equal amount of shots standing, Tito brought Rashad down NUMEROUS times, and neither of the guys deserved to win the fight. That's coming from an Ortiz fan. The draw was the right decision. Period.Liddell may have talked crapa little bit toward Rampage but he doesnt get up in peoples faces and talk crapin random places like Tito in April like he did to Evans, and I hate Ramage hes got a cocky ass attitude which will be shut up by henderson GUARUNTEED.
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Post by Sandy on Jul 9, 2007 0:17:25 GMT -5
Sean Sherk is unreal. I can't wait to see him face BJ Penn, as rumored. That's going to be two of my absolute favorite fighters in the world going at it. Chuck Liddell talked **** and Rampage whooped his ass -- again. What a surprise. Apparently Chuck Liddell sucks, too, judging by your theory. How did he whoop his ass? Did you even watch the fight? They both landed an equal amount of shots standing, Tito brought Rashad down NUMEROUS times, and neither of the guys deserved to win the fight. That's coming from an Ortiz fan. The draw was the right decision. Period.Liddell may have talked **** a little bit toward Rampage but he doesnt get up in peoples faces and talk **** in random places like Tito in April like he did to Evans, and I hate Ramage hes got a cocky ass attitude which will be shut up by henderson GUARUNTEED. and you can guarantee that how? with the past few main events going how they have been going how can you guarantee that Henderson will "shut up" Rampage? I think it is a pretty even match. When Rampage fought in PRIDE his training was horrible..during the tourneys he would always end up fighting the tough guys and they would somehow give Wanderlei the not so tough guys..why? Because Wanderlei is the face of PRIDE..they can't watch their boy get f***ed up. Now he has a whole new training camp..and it shows when he f***ed up Chuck who everyone thought was unstoppable. The guy is a one-trick pony. Everyone talks about Tito being a one trick pony with his 1-2 combo and then the takedown and ground and pound, but look at Chuck. The guy can only stand..he panics when he gets on the ground.. And as far as him never poking Tito in the eye? I suggest all the nay-sayers to look at that match again..before the flurry of punches he poked Tito in the eye with a thumb.. ..as he did Jeremy Horn in his 2nd fight with him. ..and Randy Couture. ..and Vernon White.
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Post by Boquest on Jul 9, 2007 0:30:49 GMT -5
Even with me being a Liddell fan, I'd be completely close-minded if I didn't admit Chuck has been known to hit the eyes. Did Chuck clip Tito in the eye in there first fight? Yes he did. Is that the only reason why he lost? No, I really believe Chuck would have won regardless of that. I don't like Tito as I hate his attitude and his seemingly disrespect for everyone around him, but I admit that I respected him when he said that he agreed with the call to take the point away.
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Post by Patrick Bateman (original) on Jul 9, 2007 1:06:12 GMT -5
I just can't wait for my boy Kos (and training partner, AKA for life bitches) to go against GSP. It will be good but I am going for Kos. And with Swick coming back soon and Fitch coming back again it will be great things for us and or trainer Lynn Shultz (if you live in the San Jose area come on out)
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Post by Sandy on Jul 9, 2007 1:17:46 GMT -5
Kos vs. GSP is a match-up you look at and you just KNOW it will not be boring.
There is no possible way..with all of GSP's fights being so entertaining and Kos as well (besides the fight with Diego Sanchez).
I'm thinking of ordering the PPV just for that fight alone
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Post by Kliquid on Jul 9, 2007 1:20:59 GMT -5
Liddell may have talked **** a little bit toward Rampage but he doesnt get up in peoples faces and talk **** in random places like Tito in April like he did to Evans, and I hate Ramage hes got a cocky ass attitude which will be shut up by henderson GUARUNTEED. So it's okay for Liddell to talk crapand get smacked around; but it's not okay for Tito to do the same? What you people don't understand is that - the reason Tito is such a big draw (even with his sub-par record as of late) is because he talks. He's a self-promoter. He realizes that, much like the wrestling industry, there is no 'retirement plan' for an MMA fighter. He needs to make all the money he can now before he is forced out of the sport. By talking, he builds feuds (in the fans' eyes) and makes money. I'm not mad that Chuck Liddell talked and got beat. It happens. You need to be confident as an MMA fighter, and Liddell has every right to be confident. So does Tito. Just because they don't win every fight doesn't mean they're not great.
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Post by nascar on Jul 9, 2007 10:10:59 GMT -5
I just can't wait for my boy Kos (and training partner, AKA for life bitches) to go against GSP. It will be good but I am going for Kos. And with Swick coming back soon and Fitch coming back again it will be great things for us and or trainer Lynn Shultz (if you live in the San Jose area come on out) I'm going for GSP since Koscheck Is such an a$$
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Post by Overnight Sensation on Jul 9, 2007 12:23:47 GMT -5
meh GSP.......Kos is gonna whoop that ass.... but lets save that discussion for the UFC 74 thread
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Post by Boquest on Jul 9, 2007 12:33:46 GMT -5
I don't even blame Tito for pushing Rashad. It seemed like Rashad kinda like, pretended to push or hit Tito to try to make him flinch or something. Rashad was just asking for it, and Tito didn't back down.
GSP vs. Koscheck will be an unreal fight. Here's hoping GSP wins and works his way back to a title fight.
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Post by nascar on Jul 9, 2007 12:35:31 GMT -5
meh GSP.......Kos is gonna whoop that ass.... but lets save that discussion for the UFC 74 thread I hate kos I really hope GSP whoops his a$$
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2007 19:00:03 GMT -5
Liddell may have talked **** a little bit toward Rampage but he doesnt get up in peoples faces and talk **** in random places like Tito in April like he did to Evans, and I hate Ramage hes got a cocky ass attitude which will be shut up by henderson GUARUNTEED. So it's okay for Liddell to talk **** and get smacked around; but it's not okay for Tito to do the same? What you people don't understand is that - the reason Tito is such a big draw (even with his sub-par record as of late) is because he talks. He's a self-promoter. He realizes that, much like the wrestling industry, there is no 'retirement plan' for an MMA fighter. He needs to make all the money he can now before he is forced out of the sport. By talking, he builds feuds (in the fans' eyes) and makes money. I'm not mad that Chuck Liddell talked and got beat. It happens. You need to be confident as an MMA fighter, and Liddell has every right to be confident. So does Tito. Just because they don't win every fight doesn't mean they're not great. Yeah but the thing is there's a difference between being a trash talker and a dick. When Tito said he was going to make Rashad his "nappy headed ho" in the midst of the RU/Imus controversy, he crossed that line.
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Post by Kliquid on Jul 9, 2007 22:16:11 GMT -5
I'm not mad that Chuck Liddell talked and got beat. It happens. You need to be confident as an MMA fighter, and Liddell has every right to be confident. So does Tito. Just because they don't win every fight doesn't mean they're not great. Yeah but the thing is there's a difference between being a trash talker and a dick. When Tito said he was going to make Rashad his "nappy headed ho" in the midst of the RU/Imus controversy, he crossed that line.[/quote] Clearly it was a joke. Good lord... People just find anything to say that Tito is an bunghole when in fact, he's one of the nicest fighters to his fans. I could care less how he is to other fighters, as I'm not a fighter.
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Post by Boquest on Jul 10, 2007 0:23:48 GMT -5
Here's the pay-out:
-Anderson Silva ($90,000) def. Nathan Marquardt ($24,000). -Sean Sherk ($28,000) def. Hermes Franca ($14,000). -Tito Ortiz ($210,000) and Rashad Evans ($16,000) fought to a Draw. -Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira ($200,000) def. Heath Herring ($70,000). -Kenny Florian ($16,000) def. Alvin Robinson ($3,000). -Stephan Bonnar ($32,000) def. Mike Nickels ($5,000). -Jorge Gurgel ($14,000) def. Diego Saraiva ($3,000). -Chris Lytle ($20,000) def. Jason Gilliam ($3,000). -Frank Edgar ($10,000) def. Mark Bocek ($3,000).
Total disclosed pay outs: $761,000
I know Tito brings in a huge fan base, but wow it seems like quite abit once you consider he made more then all the other fighters in the 2 other "main events" combined. The only real thing that bothers me is that Bonnar made more then Sherk, which doesn't make sense at all. I know he probably gets bonuses for what ever, but still.
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Post by Kliquid on Jul 10, 2007 0:36:13 GMT -5
Yeah, I think Sherk's contract is still from before he won the LW title. His next contract will be much bigger.
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Post by Sandy on Jul 10, 2007 1:08:21 GMT -5
Wow...
Silva's $90,000 pay-out is depressing.
Especially considering he has been the main event in his last 3 fights..and has won all three...and all have been impressive wins..I thought bonuses went out if the fight was impressive???
Tito's pay-out does not suprise me at all. I mean was he the main-event? No. But was all the hype behind him and Evans...yes!!!! He knows how to make whatever PPV he is in seem like the biggest PPV of the year. That is a smart business man. Controversy sells. Plain and simple.
Nogs pay-out is a little large and I would definately say he does not deserve that much after that performance. I was expecting something like Nog vs. Bob Sapp..but it was just boring and Herring was the more impressive fighter that night.
as for Kos and GSP (again) I am not a big fan of either..but I do enjoy seeing there fights. They both seem so cocky and arrogant it just bugs me. I know Tito is cocky and arrogant but he says it half-jokingly, when GSP and Kos talk in interviews they have this attitude as if they truly believe they are the best fighter in the world. I will definately be taking GSP because I want to see him destroy Kos to shut him up and bring him down to reality.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2007 23:08:07 GMT -5
I'm not mad that Chuck Liddell talked and got beat. It happens. You need to be confident as an MMA fighter, and Liddell has every right to be confident. So does Tito. Just because they don't win every fight doesn't mean they're not great. Yeah but the thing is there's a difference between being a trash talker and a dick. When Tito said he was going to make Rashad his "nappy headed ho" in the midst of the RU/Imus controversy, he crossed that line. Oh, I don't care about him calling him a , who gives a **** about that.. I'm just saying that it was pretty tasteless to say it right in the middle of everything and it was obviously just an effort to get people talking about him again because he's afraid of fading away. Tito's ****-talk just annoys me because he loves to run his mouth and doesn't back it up in fights. He's just so easy to not like.
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