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Post by Kliquid on Jul 6, 2007 9:45:38 GMT -5
I'm hoping Tito wins..but I don't know why, I change my mind now and I have a gut feeling he will lose. I completely forgot about Evans wrestling and I'm thinking his sprawl will be good enough to defend against Tito's takedown attempts. Tito's best chance, honestly, is probably to keep it standing. Despite his losses to Liddell, Ortiz is very good at stand-up. If the fight does go to the ground, Ortiz is going to be dead unless he can get in Rashad's guard and bring the ground n' pound. Rashad is actually a very bad matchup for Tito. There aren't many fighters in the world who are better wrestlers than Tito... But the thing about Ortiz is that you can never count him out of a fight - he's one of the hardest workers in the entire industry. |
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Post by cjd15 on Jul 6, 2007 15:15:46 GMT -5
yeah BUt Evans Can go toe to toe really well, He can also Bring up a kick on you unexpectedly.....
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Post by nascar on Jul 6, 2007 19:54:10 GMT -5
yeah BUt Evans Can go toe to toe really well, He can also Bring up a kick on you unexpectedly..... haha yeah he hit the kick one time and look what happend lol |
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Post by Mr. Old School™ on Jul 7, 2007 7:13:34 GMT -5
Man, it should be a wicked PPV tonight and I'm really looking forward to it. Here are my picks:
Nate Marquardt
Sean Sherk
Rashad Evans
Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira
Kenny Florian
Stephan Bonnar
Drew Fickett
Jorge Gurgel
Frank Edgar
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Post by moogie101 on Jul 7, 2007 10:21:30 GMT -5
I'm still stunned Nate The Great gets a title shot, UFC barely covered the fights he's had in UFC due to his slow style & often boring fights. He is however a superb fighter & a serious threat to Anderson Silva.
My picks however are...
Anderson Silva
Nog.
Tito
Sherk
Florian
The MMA forums are full of posts saying Rashad is going to stop Tito but I don't see it myself. Yeah Rashad stopped Salmon, but big deal! Who the F**k is Salmon anyway, plus he was owning Evans throughout the first round.
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Post by Mr. Old School™ on Jul 7, 2007 10:30:36 GMT -5
^ Hey, the way I look at it is this. If Tito couldn't dominate and knock-out or tap-out Forrest Griffin, which he didn't, then I don't see him beating Rashad. There's no way. If anything, Rashad is tougher now than Forrest was when Forrest fought Tito. That's why my money is on Rashad all the way. Rashad Evans will beat Tito Ortiz tonight, mark my words.
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Post by nascar on Jul 7, 2007 11:06:39 GMT -5
^ Hey, the way I look at it is this. If Tito couldn't dominate and knock-out or tap-out Forrest Griffin, which he didn't, then I don't see him beating Rashad. There's no way. If anything, Rashad is tougher now than Forrest was when Forrest fought Tito. That's why my money is on Rashad all the way. Rashad Evans will beat Tito Ortiz tonight, mark my words. Forrest Griffin Is a better figher then what people give him credit for. I'm not totally convinced that Tito beat Forrest In their fight ... |
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Post by gordon on Jul 7, 2007 11:41:53 GMT -5
Champion Anderson Silva
Champion Sean Sherk
Tito Ortiz
Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira
Kenny Florian
Stephan Bonnar
Drew Fickett
Jorge Gurgel
Frank Edgar
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Post by Kliquid on Jul 7, 2007 12:22:58 GMT -5
Tito broke his leg in the first round of his fight with Forrest.
If Ortiz didn't have a broken leg, that fight would've been one of the biggest ass-whippings of all time. I like Forrest and everything, but he got absolutely DESTROYED in round one of that fight. I don't see how anyone could possibly give Griffin even 9 points in round one. It was a 10-8 round AT BEST for Forrest.
If anything, that fight was a draw; if you can convincingly give Forrest both rounds 2 and 3, even though he really didn't do anything.
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Post by szatowski420 on Jul 7, 2007 13:17:08 GMT -5
I hope Rashad wins. Maybe if Tito loses his big mouth will shrink a little bit. I also hope Silva keeps his title so he can face Franklin again and beat him again. I don't know why people were giving excuses for Franklin losing last time when Silva beat him fair and square and is the better fighter.
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Post by nascar on Jul 7, 2007 13:37:13 GMT -5
I hope Rashad wins. Maybe if Tito loses his big mouth will shrink a little bit. I also hope Silva keeps his title so he can face Franklin again and beat him again. I don't know why people were giving excuses for Franklin losing last time when Silva beat him fair and square and is the better fighter. No even If Tito loses he won't quit running his mouth haha that's who Tito Is and that's who he always will be. Remember all the trash talking he did before his fight with Chuch the 2nd time ? He lost but he Is still running his mouth about his fight with Evans. I like that about Tito, I really hope he wins tonight !! |
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Post by gordon on Jul 7, 2007 13:49:47 GMT -5
I hope people aint trying to make out Tito is some kind of bitch. He is a top Light heavyweight fighter... and will be on top again.
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Post by fattic on Jul 7, 2007 14:26:58 GMT -5
I can't believe it's tonight, time flys.
I'm hoping Tito beats the crap out Rashad.
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Post by Kliquid on Jul 7, 2007 15:23:59 GMT -5
I'm hoping Tito beats the **** out Rashad. You're a Teets fan? I never would've expected. |
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Post by fattic on Jul 7, 2007 15:26:17 GMT -5
I'm hoping Tito beats the **** out Rashad. You're a Teets fan? I never would've expected. Not really, but I hate Rashad with a firey passion.  |
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Post by Sandy on Jul 7, 2007 15:36:54 GMT -5
Just because Tito didn't tap-out or completely shut-down Forrest (like Kliquid said) is because of his leg. I had no idea it was broken I thought it was just injured. But round one of that fight was beautiful. It was old-school Tito and should have been stopped IMO.. With the multiple punches and elbows to the head it was suprising that the ref didn't stop it.
It just seems in every fight that the UFC tries to stack the deck against Tito and MAKE him lose. But then when he wins they try to say "Oh yeah well so-and-so had an injury.." or "well it was an close decision"..
I hope after this fight Tito will get some recognition.
Like I said I really want him to win. BUt it is so hard to call because Rashad is an amazing wrestler. And Tito seems to forget that he is pretty damn good all around but he always relies on the take down and ground and pound. Rashad is an explosive striker...but if Tito gets him in a muay thai clinch and throws a few knees I think it can throw off Rashad...Titos knees are very underrated.
I CAN'T WAIT FOR TONIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by nascar on Jul 7, 2007 15:40:22 GMT -5
I can't believe it's tonight, time flys. I'm hoping Tito beats the **** out Rashad. I'm with you on that man |
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Post by Tazmission on Jul 7, 2007 16:02:55 GMT -5
Champion Anderson Silva
Champion Sean Sherk
Tito Ortiz
Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira
Kenny Florian
Stephan Bonnar
Chris Lytle
Jorge Gurgel
Frank Edgar
My heart picks Tito, but my brain picks Rashad. Either way, should be an awesome fight and I'm looking forward to ARN's debut.
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Post by gregthebunny on Jul 7, 2007 19:23:16 GMT -5
Anyone else as stoked as I am for the debut of Big Nog tonight?
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Post by gregthebunny on Jul 7, 2007 20:58:13 GMT -5
My picks for the main fights:
Anderson Silva
Sean Sherk
Rashad Evans
Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira
I have a feeling Tito is seeing Rashad as a pushover, and will come in thinking he has already won the fight. I think Rashad is going to catch Tito off guard and pull off the win.
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