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Post by Edge618 on Jul 11, 2018 23:40:30 GMT -5
Ok so I’m almost 30, been a die hard WWE fan since I was a child. WWE has always been my main obsession, and I’d say I loved it all the way until probably around WrestleMania 32 (and I’m a Reigns fan so figure that one out lol)
But ever since Mania 32 I’ve become more and more uninterested in keeping up with the weekly shows, PPV barely even feels special any more, and Raw seems like one big commercial for the network and wwe shop anymore.
Is it just me? I mean are they’re still fans right now that are in love with the WWE?
Because lately I feel like WWE is someone I once loved more than anything, and now I can’t even look them in the eye lol.
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Post by ClashOfStyles on Jul 12, 2018 0:12:16 GMT -5
It’s only happened to me more recently. My interest has been declining since WM33 and I haven’t bought a figure since last November. Idk if it’s nothing feeling special anymore like you mentioned, but the product has become increasingly less and less interesting since like Mania 31. It sucks because I’ve been watching since 2001 and something that was once a big part of my life is becoming increasingly less important. I used to look forward to RAW and SD every week but now it feels like a chore. Something I’ve noticed is that the guys that are supposed to be the big stars just aren’t interesting to me anymore. Yeah AJ Styles is great, but is he as fun to watch as Shawn Michaels? Is Bray Wyatt as entertaining as Undertaker was? Is KO as good on the mic as CM Punk was? Do I like watching guys like Strowman and Samoa Joe as much as Batista? Is Shinsuke Nakamura as a heel or face anywhere near Edge’s level on either side? For me it’s hell no to all of the above. The only guys that really entertain me anymore are Rollins (constantly misused and held below his potential), Dean Ambrose (currently injured, and always thrown into bad storylines where he often comes out on the losing end), John Cena to some extent, and even Randy ing Orton are/were more entertaining than the large majority of the guys on TV nowadays. WWE is just so boring now and a shell of what it once was. Call me crazy, but 2011-2014 was one of the best eras WWE has ever had and was more enjoyable than ever. I thought the brand split would change things, and it did up until the shake-up. There’s never going to be another AE or RA era, and if they do come to their senses, it’ll be too late, because nobody will be watching anymore.
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Post by Mark Martin on Jul 12, 2018 0:24:54 GMT -5
I've pretty much checked out since around Mania 32 time. It's just so uninteresting to me. Luckily NJPW has been a mighty fine substitute.
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Post by adzy on Jul 12, 2018 0:55:18 GMT -5
My interest has definitely declined in the last year. I still watch Raw/SD/PPV/NXT but often I find myself fast forwarding or just flicking through my phone while it's on in the background. I still find things to enjoy in the product though.
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Post by Kill Em' All on Jul 12, 2018 0:58:29 GMT -5
Lack of compelling stories. AJ Styles and Nakurma feuding over a punch to the balls for months don't cut it. I see little to no longterm booking. I personally blame the marks on the story aspect. 5 star spot fest matches meaning nothing with no story. A 3 star match and a compelling story go so much father. I hate the over saturation of the product too. Raw being 3 hours is to damn much.
I am the first guy to love a brand extension. More so, a 2007-2009 style. Where we get both at a ppv. But,a lack of solid separate stories on each brand is missing.
I really also hate the presentation. Raw and SD live's sets up just look really stupid. I don't really no why it hurts it in my opinion, the set up of these shows is just crap. As well as nostalgia, anything post 2011 is very hard for me to like. I personally love 2000-2008, and I can't get behind the new stuff.
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Post by Darkhawk on Jul 12, 2018 1:08:30 GMT -5
My interest decline a long time ago, it's crazy despite all the talent WWE has right now it doesn't beat the AE or RA era's. I love watching NXT because the matches and how the show is reminds of the RA. Raw and Smackdown don't remind me of that, there's more bad shows than good shows now a days. And I hate the recycle matches we constantly get, we don't need to see Reigns/Lashley vs. The Revival for 3 weeks straight.
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Post by Planktung on Jul 12, 2018 2:18:27 GMT -5
Fine. I'll be the one strand of positivity in all of this.
RAW is the only TV product right now that has more lows than it does highs. I think SmackDown, 205 and NXT are currently some of the most consistent shows ever broadcasted under the WWE umbrella. Both the male and female rosters are the most talented in history and have so much to offer for not just the present, but much of the future as well.
There's just so much to look forward to, and I feel incredibly lucky to be a fan in this era.
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Post by Edge618 on Jul 12, 2018 3:35:54 GMT -5
Fine. I'll be the one strand of positivity in all of this. RAW is the only TV product right now that has more lows than it does highs. I think SmackDown, 205 and NXT are currently some of the most consistent shows ever broadcasted under the WWE umbrella. Both the male and female rosters are the most talented in history and have so much to offer for not just the present, but much of the future as well. There's just so much to look forward to, and I feel incredibly lucky to be a fan in this era. I like to hear that. I wasn’t trying to much to be negative, actually the opposite. I want to be excited and glad that you are still able to get that out of the company. Just trying to gauge the morale here. When I was younger I’d alway ask myself if I’d ever not be just completely enthralled with WWE and I never saw myself not being enthralled by it. And now that I’m not, I just wanted to see if maybe it were me growing out of WWE, or if some of the blame landed on them. How do I explain it... basically I wonder if I were at the height of my fandom again now, would I be completely engaged, or would it not click with me.
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Post by hbkjason on Jul 12, 2018 4:13:35 GMT -5
Everything is so sterile and manufactured these days especially the promos, but I think the main reason so many fans get burnt out is the sheer amount of content the WWE produces. Keeping up with the WWE is like having a part time job!
I am happy with my hour of NXT and my 40 minutes or whatever it is of This Week In WWE. That along with the PPV's is enough for my wrestling week. I would actually watch a This WeeK On RAW and This Week On Smackdown show that was the same format with the same length, but a show dedicated to each show.
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Post by Codyverse: Tag Team Champion on Jul 12, 2018 7:30:57 GMT -5
I think I’ve watched three shows since Mania.
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Post by 👑🇵🇭⭐️ on Jul 12, 2018 7:58:55 GMT -5
I started losing interest when the WWE Network launched. Instead of watching the weekly shows, I would just old WWE, WCW, and ECW pay per views in chronological order. I also watched the Originals like Table For 3, Ride Along, and Edge And Christian Show That Totally Reeks Of Awesomeness. I would still watch the current pay per views, but I was only half interested in them. Once I saw every pay per view, I started watching every Saturday Night’s Main Event and Clash Of Champions in chronological order. After I completed that, I cancelled my subscription. The WWE Network tried to keep me for at least one more month by giving me a free month, but after that, I cut them off. I then reactivated my subscription for WrestleMania, and then turned it off again after the Greatest Royal Rumble. I keep up with what’s going on in the WWE through message boards and FaceBook, but that’s about it. I still DVR Raw and Smackdown, but that’s only because I’m too lazy to remove it. Unfortunately, just like the Universal, World, Raw Women’s and Smackdown Women’s Championship Title Belts, WWE TV today is boring and repetitive.
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Post by k5 on Jul 12, 2018 8:22:58 GMT -5
I haven’t been a happy consumer since John Cena rose to the number one face spot in the company.
Cena represented repetition, lack of creative storylines, complacency, characters with no dynamics, and the ‘wwe style’ of bland wrestling. sound familiar to today’s times?
they missed out on AJ Styles prime, Samoa Joes, Chris Daniels because Vince and his yes men thought they knew better. yeah, they didn’t.
they finally hopped on the indie train in the last few years - largely thanks to Cm punk and Bryan paving the way for them - but it’s simply too little too late.
need some big minds to shake up wrestling again.
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Post by Rated [R] NinJa on Jul 12, 2018 8:28:16 GMT -5
I think I lost my passion and interest for wrestling in around 2011, now I just see it as something to watch if I’m up at 1am on Monday’s and Tuesdays. Sure it has it’s good points now and then but the overall product has me feeling like “I just wasted 3-4 hours watching that when I could’ve been asleep 🤦🏽♂️“
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Post by havoc7179 on Jul 12, 2018 9:38:29 GMT -5
Fans? yes. Look at this article: www.sportskeeda.com/wwe/extreme-rules-2018-predicting-the-quality-of-each-match/9. The guy is already crapping on a show that hasn't even occurred yet. Fans today are so hard to please. Me? I generally enjoy the product. I was pretty much only reading results from around the time of Eddie Guerrero's death till about 2016. When AJ debuted with WWE, I've been hooked. Haven't missed a show. I enjoy all the matches, even if the storylines are questionable. I think a lot of it is that I grew up watching more traditional wrestling. I didn't need to see thousands of high spots and fast paced action. Nowadays, people care about bookings, and how many cartwheels you can pull off before blowing up or injuring yourself. If the match doesn't have that, or isn't the right mix of comedy (apparently its ok for people to get thrown around by a crotch, but not ok for people to dance because its not realistic) people hate it. Also, people have become sheep in the sense that unless a certain individual whose initials also stand for Douche Man doesn't rate it 5 or more stars,they can't enjoy the product.
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Post by bigshab421 on Jul 12, 2018 9:50:27 GMT -5
My desire to watch wrestling outside of NXT is very low. There is absolutely ero reason to watch RAW or SD weekly because it is the same exact show week in and week out. There is rarely storyline progression on the main roster anymore and that is my main reason I don't watch. Lets be real for a second. A wrestling match to me, doesn't have to be a 5 star clinic to be great to me. IMO, if a match has a really good storyline leading in and the match is just ok, but furthers the story or pays off, I am happy. Yet, WWE is doing the exact opposite. Most feuds have zero basis for a match and when that happens, there is no investment in the match. Just think if they would have just had Sasha/Bayley beating the crap out of each other the last couple weeks, after Bayley lost it. Fans would be foaming at the mouth for a no holds barred brawl at Extreme Rules. But instead we are getting an unnecessarily stretched out feud which will most likely have zero pay off. Everything is just too formulaic anymore and there is no reason to watch. When Joe/AJ feud, I don't want it to be just about "You Have the Title, I want the title." I want Joe to bring up their past, give me something personal, reference their TNA/ROH history, GIVE ME A REASON TO WANT TO SEE THEM FIGHT. It baffles me as to how NXT is still a WWE show. The story and progression with Ciampa/Gargano is amazing. You see the last Takeover and see that Gargano's character developed, when instead of just winning and getting through, he wants to make Ciampa pay for the pain, but ends up costing him. Now we are on another title journey with Gargano again, because the ultimate goal will be to defeat Ciampa for the title. Even Velveteen/Black or Almas' character evolving makes me love wrestling, then I watch on Monday and Tuesday and think to myself....why the do I still watch this?
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Post by T R W on Jul 12, 2018 9:58:41 GMT -5
I do agree that hardcore fans ARE harder to please now.
However, I have been watching since 1980, and right now the WWE is the worst it has ever been from a creative standpoint. It is criminal how much talent they have and how they waste it.
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Post by toki on Jul 12, 2018 10:47:31 GMT -5
I don't think I have ever cared so little about WWE as I do now. Sure, at times throughout the years I would miss some episodes of RAW or Smackdown due to other things going on, but at least then I would try to catch up or stay up to date. Now it's like why even bother? They've ruined so many potentially good things with 50/50 booking, other constant questionable decisions, or just being plain boring that I have no reason to invest anymore. This past Monday was the first time in months that I genuinely tried to watch RAW in it's entirety but still couldn't give it my full attention. And Smackdown isn't that much better... I mean there are plenty of people on both rosters that I like, and have followed even before they came to WWE, but I can't seem to dig in to what's happening with them like I could before. There's no cliffhangers to make me feel like I HAVE to tune in the following week to see what happens next; just cheesy soap opera drama that can usually be easily predicted if you have half a mind for the most basic storytelling possible. I'm not completely against WWE or anything because I still watch NXT and occasionally 205 Live, but I can still go weeks without watching either and not be fussed, then just catch up for the most part when it's closer to the next Takeover or whatever. Even so, what's the point in really getting into someone in NXT now when you know that when they get called up, they're just going to get extremely watered down or stripped of what made them so great in the first place? Idk, it just seems like an endless cycle of the same old chit to me.
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Post by IRS on Jul 12, 2018 11:34:45 GMT -5
I think the main roster is a dumpster fire right now. Honestly, it's just a terrible trudge to watch most weeks - out of the 5 hours of RAW/SD combined, you get MAYBE one hour's worth of good content. That's one of the reasons I haven't watched more than one show since WM. What's the point? The 'A' show is centered around a guy I generally can't stand watching, the booking is as bland and uninspired as I've ever seen it, and if they do manage to find something interesting that catches on (Fashion Files) they give up on it or run it into the ground because it got over without their approval.
RAW just drew their lowest viewership rating ever, but it doesn't matter, because they still make money hand-over-fist in spite of it. So, why change? They can continue to throw the same crap at the wall every week, because from their POV, it's working. Yeah, I'd say morale is pretty damn low for WWE fans, and it should be, because the company doesn't give a damn and is just going through the motions and continues to be rewarded for it.
However, I think as an overall wrestling fan, your morale should be through the roof. There's so many great alternatives now, and they're so much more accessible than they've ever been, that you don't need to depend on WWE to get a fix of great wrestling. I know some prefer the pageantry and the 'big time feel' of WWE, but if you simply care about wanting to watch a great wrestling product, it's very easy for you to find. Which is why I don't really care that I've given up on WWE after nearly 15 years.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2018 12:47:39 GMT -5
I said no simply because I don't know what it's like to grow up with this era. It's no longer compelling to me even at a live show, but the kid in the row ahead of me is having an absolute blast. It might be a growing up thing,because I mostly watch stuff from the 90s and early 2000s.
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Post by theicwguy on Jul 12, 2018 12:53:03 GMT -5
Fine. I'll be the one strand of positivity in all of this. RAW is the only TV product right now that has more lows than it does highs. I think SmackDown, 205 and NXT are currently some of the most consistent shows ever broadcasted under the WWE umbrella. Both the male and female rosters are the most talented in history and have so much to offer for not just the present, but much of the future as well. There's just so much to look forward to, and I feel incredibly lucky to be a fan in this era. I'm with this guy.
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