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Post by Hulkster2001 on Aug 22, 2018 9:39:21 GMT -5
What if Vince allowed Savage to compete in the new generation era? Besides the program with HBK, what else would’ve came from this? Does Savage get another run with the WWF title? Would Savage main event another Mania? Does the Warrior still come back with Savage still competing? How does this affect WCW? Would we see the Macho Man take on the Texas Rattlesnake in the attitude era? When does Savage retire? Does he become a authority figure in the 2000’s or does he get the Hogan treatment? |
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Post by hbkbigdaddycool on Aug 22, 2018 11:40:00 GMT -5
I remember hearing from Lanny on a shoot that Savage had this great idea written out about a program with HBK, but it never happened cause Vince wanted him to retire and pretty much do the spot Hogan was meant to do before he left for WCW. So that's what Savage did too.... left for WCW.
Apparently from what I heard Bruce Prichard say, Savage was in talks with the WWE about coming back in 1997, I guess going to WCW and showing everyone that he can still go helped his career a bit there, because Vince was interested again. But he opted to sign with WCW again for that big money and days off, which I don't blame him.
So I honestly thing if Savage had stayed with the WWE after November 1994 he would be just a commentator and do things for the WWE outside of wrestling, like appearances and host things. He was pretty much doing that at SummerSlam 94, so that's a good indication of where Vince wanted him at in the WWE.
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Post by keegandimitrijevic01 on Aug 22, 2018 12:00:32 GMT -5
I'd say that Randy would've retired in 2000 with a limited schedule. If you watch his feud with DDP, he was still great in WCW. I think it would've been great for Randy's last match to have been against Shawn. If Shawn hadn't been injured in 2000 and Randy was ready to retire, it would've been perfect. He would've been a great commentator afterward, and he probably would've been great as a writer too.
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Post by Gorilla on Aug 22, 2018 12:19:53 GMT -5
Randy vs Bret would have been a great rivalry. Same with Randy vs Austin or Michaels
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2018 12:22:43 GMT -5
I remember hearing from Lanny on a shoot that Savage had this great idea written out about a program with HBK, but it never happened cause Vince wanted him to retire and pretty much do the spot Hogan was meant to do before he left for WCW. So that's what Savage did too.... left for WCW. Apparently from what I heard Bruce Prichard say, Savage was in talks with the WWE about coming back in 1997, I guess going to WCW and showing everyone that he can still go helped his career a bit there, because Vince was interested again. But he opted to sign with WCW again for that big money and days off, which I don't blame him. So I honestly thing if Savage had stayed with the WWE after November 1994 he would be just a commentator and do things for the WWE outside of wrestling, like appearances and host things. He was pretty much doing that at SummerSlam 94, so that's a good indication of where Vince wanted him at in the WWE. So he was close to signing with wwe in 1997, but they wanted zero to do with him after they bought wcw? I think the video he made in 2003 on his website may have been the reason they didn't want to bring Macho Man back. Supposedly the year before he died Vince called him to go in the hall of fame and Savage said no. |
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Post by Gorilla on Aug 22, 2018 12:36:30 GMT -5
Randy Savage vs Mankind could have been a sophisticated and well wrestled version of Savage and Steele.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2018 13:57:32 GMT -5
he was in royal rumble 93. and at survivor series 93. he had his fued with crush in 94.
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Post by K5 on Aug 22, 2018 14:12:03 GMT -5
maybe even a reunion of the ultimate maniacs in 96!
it’s too bad Vince didn’t just drop the money and have savage come back to face off against hogan one last time. Might have to end in a draw but I would’ve taken it.
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Post by Hulkster2001 on Aug 23, 2018 6:56:25 GMT -5
he was in royal rumble 93. and at survivor series 93. he had his fued with crush in 94. What I meant was like he was still an active competitor and not a commentator |
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Post by warriorlynx on Aug 23, 2018 15:55:46 GMT -5
A few reasons that Savage was more of a part-timer post-Royal Rumble 93 till October 31st, 1994:
1. The separation with Elizabeth was a strain on Savage that effected him
2. Savage wanted a backstage role in 92-93, so with no Jesse Ventura (aka Wrestler turned Commentator), Vince look to Savage.
3. Vince's "Youth Movement": The infamous incident where Vince forced Flair and Savage to redo a match and was still not satisfied
4. Vince saw him in 94 as his "Babe Ruth" or "Bruno". Since Hulk was no longer in that role that Vince wanted him to be (aka. his Bruno), Randy became his Bruno Sammartino as a part-timer
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Post by Gorilla on Aug 23, 2018 16:41:47 GMT -5
A few reasons that Savage was more of a part-timer post-Royal Rumble 93 till October 31st, 1994: 1. The separation with Elizabeth was a strain on Savage that effected him 2. Savage wanted a backstage role in 92-93, so with no Jesse Ventura (aka Wrestler turned Commentator), Vince look to Savage. 3. Vince's "Youth Movement": The infamous incident where Vince forced Flair and Savage to redo a match and was still not satisfied 4. Vince saw him in 94 as his "Babe Ruth" or "Bruno". Since Hulk was no longer in that role that Vince wanted him to be (aka. his Bruno), Randy became his Bruno Sammartino as a part-timer Good points. And he only went to WCW because they sold him on still being a wrestler as he had decided to transition out of that role at WWF. |
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Post by The Brain on Aug 24, 2018 11:38:20 GMT -5
Vince was a fool for making him a part timer during his last few years there. Don't get me wrong I enjoyed his run in the booth but he still had a lot left in the tank with his early work in WCW a prime example.
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Post by warriorlynx on Aug 24, 2018 12:45:23 GMT -5
Vince was a fool for making him a part timer during his last few years there. Don't get me wrong I enjoyed his run in the booth but he still had a lot left in the tank with his early work in WCW a prime example. It's funny, Randy could still work well into his 40s till 1998 when he got injured. Randy could've feuded with Shawn, Bret, Diesel, heck I would've preferred Randy vs. King Mabel than giving Mabel a title shot lol. I think a good storyline could fit if Randy had a "protege" and try to duplicate the success of Bruno vs. Larry back in '80. Or, Randy Savage as a heel again.... |
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Post by The Brain on Aug 24, 2018 12:57:23 GMT -5
Vince was a fool for making him a part timer during his last few years there. Don't get me wrong I enjoyed his run in the booth but he still had a lot left in the tank with his early work in WCW a prime example. It's funny, Randy could still work well into his 40s till 1998 when he got injured. Randy could've feuded with Shawn, Bret, Diesel, heck I would've preferred Randy vs. King Mabel than giving Mabel a title shot lol. I think a good storyline could fit if Randy had a "protege" and try to duplicate the success of Bruno vs. Larry back in '80. Or, Randy Savage as a heel again.... Savage (as a heel) vs Bret for the belt=$$$ |
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Post by warriorlynx on Aug 24, 2018 14:08:03 GMT -5
It's funny, Randy could still work well into his 40s till 1998 when he got injured. Randy could've feuded with Shawn, Bret, Diesel, heck I would've preferred Randy vs. King Mabel than giving Mabel a title shot lol. I think a good storyline could fit if Randy had a "protege" and try to duplicate the success of Bruno vs. Larry back in '80. Or, Randy Savage as a heel again.... Savage (as a heel) vs Bret for the belt=$$$ True and he needed to become a heel if you think about it. Vince saw Randy and Liz as a package, Liz was gone so it's like 50% of the gimmick was over. A heel change would've made a lot of sense. |
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Post by The Brain on Aug 24, 2018 14:15:43 GMT -5
Savage (as a heel) vs Bret for the belt=$$$ True and he needed to become a heel if you think about it. Vince saw Randy and Liz as a package, Liz was gone so it's like 50% of the gimmick was over. A heel change would've made a lot of sense. Savage was gold as a heel in the 80s. Imagine what he could've done if they turned em in 93/4. Hell maybe even a return to the classic robes and star tights. |
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Post by LeighD on Sept 5, 2018 10:18:39 GMT -5
Looking back from 1992 - 1996, I probably would have been smart to have Savage in an in-ring role. Matches to be had against Bret, HBK, Perfect, Diesel, Razor Ramon, and many others would have been classics. 1992-1995 was a time of transitioning with few exceptions as company leaders. Savage at that point had been a cornerstone of the company and to simply brush him aside when clearly he had the ability to perform is perplexing.
I truly wish the main event at WrestleMania IX had been Bret Hart vs. Randy Savage. I think it would have been an all-time classic, yet sadly we'll never see. A fued with HBK in the summer of 1993 after the failure of the HBK-Perfect feud would have given a solid push to HBK. Again, simply speculation.
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Post by JokerFC on Sept 8, 2018 20:27:55 GMT -5
An embittered heel Savage over the NG movement vs Bret for the strap would have been gold.
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Post by JimRiga on Sept 9, 2018 2:54:59 GMT -5
Well, obviously, who knows, but I would like to have seen Savage vs Bret Hart and Mr Perfect in PPV matches. He also could have done well in the Bam Bam Bigelow feud that Tatanka had due to the hot-headedness required. Plus with Sherri’s involvement in it, it could have led to a reunion and a heel turn. That in turn could have led to an Undertaker feud.
Ah, the possibilities....!
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Post by JokerFC on Sept 9, 2018 23:39:17 GMT -5
Definitely flushed some $$$ feuds by sidelining Savage the way he did.
As a heel Savage was superb & could have had top stories with Bret, Diesel, Luger, Bulldog, Ut & Razor
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