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Post by Gorilla on Aug 25, 2018 19:30:49 GMT -5
You should've said "Will you stop!" Or ''Will you be serious?!?!'' Gorilla Monsoon: "Enough already." Bobby Heenan: "I got carried away." Gorilla Monsoon: "I wish you would." |
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Post by The Brain on Aug 25, 2018 19:50:00 GMT -5
Or ''Will you be serious?!?!'' Gorilla Monsoon: "Enough already." Bobby Heenan: "I got carried away." Gorilla Monsoon: "I wish you would." Got you a present monkey man. Peel it and have a ball. 
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Post by Gorilla on Aug 25, 2018 22:32:20 GMT -5
The Garden has gone strictly bananas
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Post by JokerFC on Aug 26, 2018 6:37:40 GMT -5
97...nah. no chance of it happening & Sting wouldn't have fit with the direction Vince was going at all IMHO. Late 92 when Vince made the offer to him was when he should have jumped.
He would have been the guy then......imagine Sting in his red/white/blue turning up on the intrepid instead of Luger to slam Yoko? Man oh man.
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Post by Hulkster2001 on Aug 26, 2018 9:36:12 GMT -5
I agree. A version of Warrior that could actually wrestle and the roster would have enjoyed being around. Sting beats Hogan for the title, work with feuds like Sting vs. Earthquake, Sting vs. Rude, Sting as the American hero beating Sgt. Slaughter at Wrestlemania 7, Sting vs. Macho King, Sting vs. the Undertaker, list goes on... Why wouldn't we have Sting v. Hogan II at Mania 7? |
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Post by Hulkster2001 on Aug 26, 2018 9:40:32 GMT -5
97...nah. no chance of it happening & Sting wouldn't have fit with the direction Vince was going at all IMHO. Late 92 when Vince made the offer to him was when he should have jumped. He did? Do you have proof? (Not trying to be mean, brother) |
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Post by PJ on Aug 26, 2018 10:12:53 GMT -5
97...nah. no chance of it happening & Sting wouldn't have fit with the direction Vince was going at all IMHO. Late 92 when Vince made the offer to him was when he should have jumped. He did? Do you have proof? (Not trying to be mean, brother) Pretty sure Sting said it on one of the DVD’s. Either on his collections or the Monday Night Wars ones. |
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Post by k5 on Aug 26, 2018 11:35:53 GMT -5
I think it would have been more interesting had Sting jumped anywhere between 89-92. How does that effect Warrior, Hogan, etc? Did Sting take steroids? The WCW wrestlers of late 80's/early 90's didn't look as roided up as the cartoon wrestlers of the WWF. Barry Windham, Bobby Eaton etc. Maybe Sting would have taken steroids with Bulldog and Warrior and be dead now if he would have joined the WWF. sting took heavy amounts of steroids. by the time the crow gimmick came around he was certainly on FAR less compounds than he had been in late 80s/early 90s, but make no mistake that to keep his weight on a touring schedule he had at the very least heightened testosterone. and while you may argue that steroids contributed to their deaths, there is absolutely no evidence that it killed either of those men. Dave boy smith was known for using crack cocaine and also painkillers. those drugs are directly related to heart issues. steroids aren’t all unhealthy, but the way some wrestlers abuse their bodies with them and combine them with drugs and a rough lifestyle is why we lost so many of the 80s/90s guys so fast. |
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Post by JokerFC on Aug 26, 2018 13:20:25 GMT -5
97...nah. no chance of it happening & Sting wouldn't have fit with the direction Vince was going at all IMHO. Late 92 when Vince made the offer to him was when he should have jumped. He did? Do you have proof? (Not trying to be mean, brother) Yeah quite a few guys have talked about this. Vince was in desperate need of new "top guys" after he canned Warrior & Bulldog & Machos failed 2nd title run.....Bret was unproven as 1# and of course Hogan was gone. He put out the feelers to Sting and there was talks. When Turner got wind he told whoever was in charge at the time that Sting was to be retained at all costs....that's where the term "Sting Money" came out of because of the deal Borden cut for $$$/Dates. Hall & Nash use the term Sting money all the time when they were talking about jumping ship in 96 Flair said that even though he was on his way out of WWF in late 92 he advised Sting to jump....because he was so marketable & WCW wasn't exploiting that at all. He told him "Vince will know how to sell you brother....he will know what to do. You will be on everything that can be sold for a buck sooner than you can spit" |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2018 17:17:26 GMT -5
97...nah. no chance of it happening & Sting wouldn't have fit with the direction Vince was going at all IMHO. Late 92 when Vince made the offer to him was when he should have jumped. He would have been the guy then......imagine Sting in his red/white/blue turning up on the intrepid instead of Luger to slam Yoko? Man oh man. That would be in the top ten holy sh!+ moments of the 90's. If Sting had been in Luger's spot that year,I wonder if he'd have taken the strap at Summerslam. |
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Post by Hulkster2001 on Aug 27, 2018 6:00:04 GMT -5
97...nah. no chance of it happening & Sting wouldn't have fit with the direction Vince was going at all IMHO. Late 92 when Vince made the offer to him was when he should have jumped. He would have been the guy then......imagine Sting in his red/white/blue turning up on the intrepid instead of Luger to slam Yoko? Man oh man. That would be in the top ten holy sh!+ moments of the 90's. If Sting had been in Luger's spot that year,I wonder if he'd have taken the strap at Summerslam. He probably would've. I don't see the locker room throwing a hissy fit like with Luger |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2018 15:07:01 GMT -5
That would be in the top ten holy sh!+ moments of the 90's. If Sting had been in Luger's spot that year,I wonder if he'd have taken the strap at Summerslam. He probably would've. I don't see the locker room throwing a hissy fit like with Luger And then, I would sincerely hope,Sting vs Bret at WM X. I really liked Yokozuna as a heel champ looking back,but Sting vs Bret at a Mania,wow. |
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Post by alanpartridge on Aug 28, 2018 8:36:36 GMT -5
Did Sting take steroids? The WCW wrestlers of late 80's/early 90's didn't look as roided up as the cartoon wrestlers of the WWF. Barry Windham, Bobby Eaton etc. Maybe Sting would have taken steroids with Bulldog and Warrior and be dead now if he would have joined the WWF. sting took heavy amounts of steroids. by the time the crow gimmick came around he was certainly on FAR less compounds than he had been in late 80s/early 90s, but make no mistake that to keep his weight on a touring schedule he had at the very least heightened testosterone. and while you may argue that steroids contributed to their deaths, there is absolutely no evidence that it killed either of those men. Dave boy smith was known for using crack cocaine and also painkillers. those drugs are directly related to heart issues. steroids aren’t all unhealthy, but the way some wrestlers abuse their bodies with them and combine them with drugs and a rough lifestyle is why we lost so many of the 80s/90s guys so fast. The reason I thought Sting might have not taken steroids was that he never had the definition Warrior had. |
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Post by k5 on Aug 28, 2018 9:35:32 GMT -5
sting took heavy amounts of steroids. by the time the crow gimmick came around he was certainly on FAR less compounds than he had been in late 80s/early 90s, but make no mistake that to keep his weight on a touring schedule he had at the very least heightened testosterone. and while you may argue that steroids contributed to their deaths, there is absolutely no evidence that it killed either of those men. Dave boy smith was known for using crack cocaine and also painkillers. those drugs are directly related to heart issues. steroids aren’t all unhealthy, but the way some wrestlers abuse their bodies with them and combine them with drugs and a rough lifestyle is why we lost so many of the 80s/90s guys so fast. The reason I thought Sting might have not taken steroids was that he never had the definition Warrior had. you are aware they were once tag team partners before their big singles pushes?  and they were HUGE then. certainly nowhere near natural. that said, sting certainly wasn’t on heavy amounts in his mid 90s and beyond. despite the painkiller addiction he formed, he seemed to understand that bodybuilding would have it’s eventual consequences. |
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Post by alanpartridge on Aug 28, 2018 9:47:07 GMT -5
The reason I thought Sting might have not taken steroids was that he never had the definition Warrior had. you are aware they were once tag team partners before their big singles pushes? and they were HUGE then. certainly nowhere near natural. that said, sting certainly wasn’t on heavy amounts in his mid 90s and beyond. despite the painkiller addiction he formed, he seemed to understand that bodybuilding would have it’s eventual consequences. I am aware. I unfortunately watched "Self Destruction of Ultimate Warrior" DVD where Bobby Heenan took shots at Warrior at every opportunity. I believe he said "everybody hated the guy" and "the reason he was from parts unknown was that no town wanted to say he was from there". Also Hogan said that "him and the boys where going to break Warrior's legs" (when Warrior held Vince at ransom).
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Post by Hulkster2001 on Aug 28, 2018 9:48:36 GMT -5
Was that why The Ultimate Warrior made fun of him for his cancer?
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Post by k5 on Aug 28, 2018 10:31:07 GMT -5
Was that why The Ultimate Warrior made fun of him for his cancer? that and several other interviews where heenan scoffed at warrior. warrior certainly took it too far though. |
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Post by Gorilla on Jan 29, 2019 10:43:12 GMT -5
Was that why The Ultimate Warrior made fun of him for his cancer? The Warrior was the worst. He's the one guy I don't think should be in the HOF. He had some repulsive views and treated everyone like crap. I never hear any one in the business day anything good about him. |
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Post by PJ on Jan 29, 2019 12:14:52 GMT -5
Come on this thread was dead for almost 6 months.
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