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Post by sonstuds on Sept 17, 2018 9:24:17 GMT -5
Watch Lynch be a terrible champion, because she can't carry the division, that's for sure. As opposed to Carmella, Naomi, and Natalya?
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Post by Angel Beast on Sept 17, 2018 9:32:48 GMT -5
So not only was this the first Hell in a Cell match to end in a "No Contest". But it was also the first Money in the Bank Cash-In to end in a "No Contest". WWE, GUYS. MAKIN' HISTORY OR WHATEVER. So Braun neither successfully or unsuccessfully cashed in ergo he’s still Monster in the Bank.
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Post by GreyHaze:Big Bad Booty Daddy on Sept 17, 2018 9:35:47 GMT -5
Hardy vs Orton was good, wish they did a different spot with the cage. I’m still not sure how Hardy is pulling off those spots with his gauges, it looks like it hurts.
AJ vs Joe was also good, but I wish joe had the win.
Main event imo was garbage. I expected the shield to run in, but man I wanted something memorable. I thought they were going to come in from the ceiling and break the top off to battle drew and Ziggler. The minute Dolph got in the corner I knew that spot was coming. That spot just looked bad imo... I think the only cool thing about that match was bearded Lesnar. At the very least they could of had reigns break Braun through the side of the cage or vice versa.
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Post by ahunter8056 on Sept 17, 2018 10:02:36 GMT -5
It was an okay show. - Jeff/Orton was good, but absolutely disgusting. I don't want to see any tugging on Jeff's mutilated ears. The minute Orton grabbed a screwdriver, I fast forwarded ahead. Hopefully this feud is over now. I get that they want to get across that Orton is a malicious, sadistic heel, but anytime I see any ear pulling, I fast forward. I do not want to see that, ever. And I shouldn't think viewers fast forwarding through their content is what they should strive for. Leave that disgusting crap on the indies. - Becky Lynch is champion! Becky Lynch is champion! I honestly didn't think there was any chance they crowned her tonight, but with these couple of months shining a spotlight on women's wrestling, this is the best time to have Becky on top of the division. However the match felt off, with the action not as smooth as we'd expect out of these two, quite a bit of stumbling. But still, Becky is champion! - Ziggler/McIntyre VS Rollins/Ambrose was fantastic! - I skipped AJ/Joe, because I didn't feel like sitting through an entire 4 hour show, and I've not been interested in this feud at all throughout it's entirety. - Miz/Maryse VS Bryan/Brie was okay. Nothing special. But why on earth are the referees still fine with women attacking men, but when men attack women, it's a disqualification? It should be the exact same rules for both genders. I hoped WWE would be smarter than that. - Rousey VS Bliss was solid. This was the only match I looked up the result for beforehand, because if Bliss had won I wouldn't have bothered watching. So I'm happy that Rousey retained. Now maybe WWE have become smart enough to not build an entire division around a single star the way they did with Bliss. Before I get a lot of angry "THAT'S HOW WRESTLING WORKS" replies, I'd like to clarify that the way they handled Bliss on top, they made her make everyone she faced look like a joke. Becky, Bayley, Mickie, Sasha, Nia all looked like crap after losing to Alexa. That's not the way to do it. If you want to make it clear that a single star is on top of the division, you have to at least make potential challengers remain credible threats. That's not what happened. That created a long-term problem, because now who is a credible enough star to challenge Ronda Rousey next? I don't see anybody on RAW. That's why I think unfortunately the rumour of Nikki Bella challenging Ronda Rousey for the title at Evolution will turn out to be true. - I skipped most of the main event, except the last 10 minutes with the run-ins, for the same reasons I explained for AJ/Joe. I really wish Brock would just off. I honestly don't understand why he still gets the whole audience cheering whenever he shows up. I get that WWE audiences are mainly casual viewers and Brock is a mainstream star, but I'd have thought by now the hardcore audience members would boo loud enough to drown out the casual fan cheers. It's been made painfully clear that Brock doesn't have a single ounce of passion for wrestling, and he clearly just wants to be in MMA. I don't find anything he does interesting, and he made the Universal title completely irrelevant by never bothering to show up.
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Post by TheSystem 1.5 on Sept 17, 2018 11:03:42 GMT -5
Watch Lynch be a terrible champion, because she can't carry the division, that's for sure. As opposed to Carmella, Naomi, and Natalya? Mella is Money
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Post by theoutlaw1999 on Sept 17, 2018 11:25:11 GMT -5
What really annoyed me was the booking of the refs. First of Hardy takes a bump and the ref was ready to stop the match and wouldn't even count for Orton until he was forced. LOL even the cell was already raised before Orton won. Then in the main event the ref stopped the match because 2 of the companies toughest stars couldn't recover from an F5! Seriously is there a new rule where if a cell match gets too dangerous the ref can stop it? It really defeats the purpose of the cell because it's suppose to be a brutal match. Look at the punishment HBK and Foley endured at the hands of The Undertaker and they fought until the very end. I'm only thankful that Orton insisted in pinning Hardy because we came so close to having 2 cell matches that ended in no contests.
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Post by Kanenite on Sept 17, 2018 11:44:56 GMT -5
I enjoyed Jeff/Orton, Becky/Charlotte, and Styles/Joe but was that Main Event ever trash. What a s*** ending for a HIAC match. Braun and Roman didn't even do anything interesting at all. The brawling on top with the 4 others was probably the only decent thing. Cringed at Lesnar returning. Was it me or did Lesnar look smaller and skinnier in the face? He shed some size for sure. I think he looked a tad bit smaller than usual at Summerslam too but considerably smaller here.
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Post by Planktung on Sept 17, 2018 11:47:23 GMT -5
An all-time great PPV.
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Post by JL24FPS on Sept 17, 2018 12:06:42 GMT -5
So not only was this the first Hell in a Cell match to end in a "No Contest". But it was also the first Money in the Bank Cash-In to end in a "No Contest". WWE, GUYS. MAKIN' HISTORY OR WHATEVER. So Braun neither successfully or unsuccessfully cashed in ergo he’s still Monster in the Bank. Nah, he didn't successfully cash in. He turned the contract over weeks ago and used it FOR this match. So it's not like he was about to cash-in and someone prevented him. Contract is gone. So I've been saying for months that Strowman didn't need that briefcase. This just proved my point. What a waste.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2018 12:18:56 GMT -5
I thought the PPV was great. Jeff Hardy vs Randy Orton was brutal. Orton's back bleeding and the chunk of flesh hanging off his leg was gruesome, and the thing with Hardy's ear and the screwdriver, I literally had to turn away. I don't really care about the no contest at the end with Strowman/Reigns. Lesnar appearing was shocking. I thought the matches were really good, and I've learned with WWE to stop getting triggered if my favorites don't win...it's all just a big story and a TV show, so as long as the matches are good, that's all I care about. I'm looking forward to where we go from here. I think we all just assumed Lesnar was gone until whatever happened with UFC was resolved. Is he still going to UFC? Is he going to do UFC and WWE at the same time? Is he going to risk injury doing WWE while preparing for a UFC Title match? Was him claiming to want to go to UFC just a big swerve by Lesnar and Vince to troll Dana White? This is all pretty interesting to me. Brock isn't fighting in the UFC until January at earliest. If his fight is in January, he will start his camp in late October/early November. So he has time to do more with wwe. If him interfering doesn't lead to a triple threat match then I don't know what the point was.
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Post by roode1402 on Sept 17, 2018 13:06:18 GMT -5
Didn’t watch it live due to work early in morning so just caught up! Thought it was a pretty solid PPV, Hardy/Orton being the stand out match for me.
Main Event finishing like the way it did was abit disappointing and how quickly it went off air. Proberly in a majority here but I’m glad to see Lesnar back!
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Post by hbkbigdaddycool on Sept 17, 2018 13:40:39 GMT -5
If Jeff Hardy retired today, he should be happy to know that he had the best HIAC match for the PG era. I felt Hardy vs. Orton topped Ambrose vs. Rollins from 2014 HIAC match.
The ending was so freaking dumb. Rollins and Ziggler taking a cell bump onto the tables was dumb. Drew and Dean must have given each other quite the double clothesline on top of the cell to keep themselves out for so long.
Lesnar coming back was not needed. But Vince is still gonna think fans want Brock there, because of the eruption of the fans when Lesnar's music hit.
Also, back in the early to mid 90s, a lot of wrestling fans stopped watching WWE, and ratings went down thus having Vince have to change things around. It seems now that everyone complains about the product, but yet doesn't want to stop watching. So honestly, nothing is gonna change as long as people keep tuning in to watch.
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Post by Joey Cush on Sept 17, 2018 13:51:52 GMT -5
ROLLINS CRASHED AND BURNED IT DOWN!! off Cole.
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Post by cordless2016 on Sept 17, 2018 14:08:26 GMT -5
Hardy/Orton was the best HIAC in YEARS. Great match.
Both tag title matches were good but nothing memorable.
Becky winning clean was great.
Styles/Joe was fantastic but this should have been Joe’s moment. If he looses the feud I feel he’ll be stuck in limbo like Owens has since moving back to Raw. That would not be good.
Miz/Maryse winning was anticlimactic. Bryan loosing three times in a row to Miz will kill a lot of his momentum if it happens.
Main event was TERRIBLE. Even before the WCW nastolgia fest with the overbooked ending the match never picked up and it was the same old “Braun runs at Roman and Roman ducks” formula. And that’s not even talking about the no finish. This match basically summed up the state of Raw for the past few years.
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Post by Escape The Rules on Sept 17, 2018 14:10:38 GMT -5
Seeing so many complaints on Twitter, I don't get it. I thought this was a fantastic PPV! Glad people on here are more sensible than that Twitter lot.
Hope Rusev and English eventually win the titles, instead of just splitting and feuding with each other.
Orton and Jeff was an incredible opener! Knew the moment that toolbox came out that one of those things were going in his god damn ear. Even though it's probably completely painless, you can't help but cringe and think that his ear is going to rip at any second. Kudos to the pair of them for finding something like that to get this feud over so well.
Glad Becky won. Although it sucks that nobody is accepting her as a heel, could possibly see a double turn coming....
No complaints about the rest of the matches before the main event, enjoyed them all. Well maybe the mixed tag match, that was pretty crap.
The bump Rollins and Ziggler took would've been cool had we not already seen the exact same one with Rollins and Ambrose before. Much like the Superplexes that break the ring, it's just too predictable and lazy the 2nd, 3rd and 4th time around.
So happy Lesnar is still around.
HIAC ending in a no contest is pretty lame, but I understand why they did it. It protects both guys. Looking forward to tonight's Raw!
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Post by bigshab421 on Sept 17, 2018 14:26:38 GMT -5
Enjoyed Hardy/Orton the most, incredible match. Becky winning was great. Not sure if I like where Joe/AJ is going. When they do stuff like this and give the heel too much credibility it hurts the face. I honestly just don't care about Raw tag division anymore Nobody is an even slightly credible threat to Rousey. The booking of the main event and the two in it.....just off. Absolutely terrible
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Post by BØRNS on Sept 17, 2018 16:44:15 GMT -5
Seeing so many complaints on Twitter, I don't get it. I thought this was a fantastic PPV! Glad people on here are more sensible than that Twitter lot. Hope Rusev and English eventually win the titles, instead of just splitting and feuding with each other. Orton and Jeff was an incredible opener! Knew the moment that toolbox came out that one of those things were going in his god damn ear. Even though it's probably completely painless, you can't help but cringe and think that his ear is going to rip at any second. Kudos to the pair of them for finding something like that to get this feud over so well. Glad Becky won. Although it sucks that nobody is accepting her as a heel, could possibly see a double turn coming.... No complaints about the rest of the matches before the main event, enjoyed them all. Well maybe the mixed tag match, that was pretty crap. The bump Rollins and Ziggler took would've been cool had we not already seen the exact same one with Rollins and Ambrose before. Much like the Superplexes that break the ring, it's just too predictable and lazy the 2nd, 3rd and 4th time around. So happy Lesnar is still around. HIAC ending in a no contest is pretty lame, but I understand why they did it. It protects both guys. Looking forward to tonight's Raw! They still could have protected both guys 100 different ways and still have a clear finish, even if Reigns retained. The double TKO or whatever was so cheap, I would have been absolutely pissed if I had attended.
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Post by Midnight: Dark Knight on Sept 17, 2018 17:06:33 GMT -5
If your going to have an ending like that then it shouldnt be the main event. Aj and joe could have closed and even with a controversial ending fans wouldnt be pissed. I cant believe these descions get approved to end a show and not expect people to be upset...or maybe they know and just dont care
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Post by Next Man’s Knowing Rock on Sept 17, 2018 17:52:32 GMT -5
Agree wholeheartedly!! Braun was white hot as Bobby Heenan would say, during that first run of I’m not finished with you stuff with Roman. They turned him face and pulled the rug out from under him in order to keep pushing The Big Dog. WWE wasted Braun and after tonight clearly are giving him the Ryback treatment. Yep maybe be everyone will finally get. It's going to be Roman screw anyone else.
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Post by winxclubflora on Sept 18, 2018 0:01:48 GMT -5
Every match they've has been the same at the end. Seth has dolph beat, drew costs him. A different ending would be nice. And the 2nd part seems self explanatory. Drew is a career jobber. Dolph has been a jobber since his cash in title reign failed due to injury. They are literally 3mb but with 2 people. 2mb. And they're getting pushed. The Drew McIntyre from 4+ years ago doesn't compare to the Drew McIntyre of today. He's completely revitalized his career and looks like a main event player. Nope, the Chosen One McIntyre was way better!
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