mightyone29
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Post by mightyone29 on Nov 14, 2018 12:59:07 GMT -5
Somehow I think there’s more to this than we think. Somehow I think the house that AJ styles built is being sold and he’s moving to raw to help fill a void. Maybe team with Balor and win tag gold. Take this with a pinch of salt, supposedly their going to triple threat AJ-Brock-Bryan for the titles and AJ would beat Brock for the Universal title since Roman is gone for now. Again pinch of salt.
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havoc7179
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Post by havoc7179 on Nov 14, 2018 14:43:09 GMT -5
Somehow I think there’s more to this than we think. Somehow I think the house that AJ styles built is being sold and he’s moving to raw to help fill a void. Maybe team with Balor and win tag gold. Take this with a pinch of salt, supposedly their going to triple threat AJ-Brock-Bryan for the titles and AJ would beat Brock for the Universal title since Roman is gone for now. Again pinch of salt. At Survivor Series? And, after having written that, I changed my stance. Bryan is a Heyman guy. No match at Survivor Series between them. AJ steps up to face one of them. If Bryan wins title back. If Brock, loses. Calling it now. But where do you see the triple threat thing?
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Post by marino13 on Nov 14, 2018 16:45:22 GMT -5
So if Brock surpassed Punk, what record does Punk have?
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Post by The American Daydream on Nov 14, 2018 16:55:56 GMT -5
So if Brock surpassed Punk, what record does Punk have? Most out of place person in an Octagon 2 years in a row.
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Post by The American Daydream on Nov 14, 2018 16:56:56 GMT -5
I can't wait to watch Bryan get demolished by Brock. I'm glad its him and not AJ. He is the most unbelievable person to ever face and beat someone of Brocks stature and skill. Going to be lit.
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Post by Rated [R] NinJa on Nov 14, 2018 17:29:24 GMT -5
Never got a chance to watch SmackDown as I started a new job today but I did see Bryan with the WWE title on Instagram which I think is absolute bullsh*t with him being one of the most boring characters ever. Hopefully a heel turn makes him somewhat interesting, mind you it was long overdue.
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Post by punksnotdead on Nov 14, 2018 17:36:08 GMT -5
So if Brock surpassed Punk, what record does Punk have? He's still the longest reigning WWE Champion of the modern era.
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Post by marino13 on Nov 14, 2018 17:42:00 GMT -5
So if Brock surpassed Punk, what record does Punk have? He's still the longest reigning WWE Champion of the modern era. So then why post an article about Brock?
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Post by POOR-ly Cuyler on Nov 14, 2018 18:46:39 GMT -5
He's still the longest reigning WWE Champion of the modern era. So then why post an article about Brock? They’re not the same title though. Punk is still longest reigning with that title in the modern era. It’s a dumb stat to begin with. Too many stipulations
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Post by marino13 on Nov 14, 2018 19:06:20 GMT -5
So then why post an article about Brock? They’re not the same title though. Punk is still longest reigning with that title in the modern era. It’s a dumb stat to begin with. Too many stipulations All the confusion aside, my point remains the same, WWE didn't give AJ a long reign to spite Punk.
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Post by havoc7179 on Nov 14, 2018 21:19:01 GMT -5
I figured out the angle here.
“Anything AJ can do, I can do better”
AJ Win your first Wwe title with a cheap shot Prevent jinder from going to survivor series. Go toe to toe with beast Retain title at mania
Daniel Win first Wwe title since returning with a cheap shot Prevent AJ from going to survivor series Go toe to toe or beat the beast? Retain title at mania?
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Post by The American Daydream on Nov 14, 2018 22:26:21 GMT -5
They’re not the same title though. Punk is still longest reigning with that title in the modern era. It’s a dumb stat to begin with. Too many stipulations All the confusion aside, my point remains the same, WWE didn't give AJ a long reign to spite Punk. Punk fans can get as specific as they want with the records but the fact remains that the big gold belt, wwe title and universal title are all World Championships and Brock is the longest reigning world champ of the modern era.
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Post by Edge618 on Nov 15, 2018 3:26:53 GMT -5
All the confusion aside, my point remains the same, WWE didn't give AJ a long reign to spite Punk. Punk fans can get as specific as they want with the records but the fact remains that the big gold belt, wwe title and universal title are all World Championships and Brock is the longest reigning world champ of the modern era. It’s not about being a Punk fan. CM Punk is the longest reigning wwe champion of the modern era. Holding the belt whose lineage goes back to the first WWE champion, Buddy Rogers. That is an undeniable, undisputable fact. Brock holds the longest WORLD championship (and Universal) reign of the modern era. Holding a main belt on a main show. He does not have the longest reign with the WWE Championship. Once again, undeniable, undisputable fact. Whether you respect either of those records is a personal opinion, but the facts are facts.
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Post by Edge618 on Nov 15, 2018 3:34:45 GMT -5
He's still the longest reigning WWE Champion of the modern era. So then why post an article about Brock? They posted an article about Brock , because he surpassed CM Punk’s reign as a WORLD champ, which is signifigant and just. But Brock still does not have the longest WWE championship reign of the modern era. He can hold the Universal for 5 years and he still won’t have that record. It’s literally like saying the longest reigning US champion is the same as the longest IC champion reign. It’s not, and that’s obvious, but somehow people can’t figure out where people are coming from on the Universal/WWE title dispute? If the longest reigning US champion held the title longer than the longest reigning IC champ, and they said that the US champ has the longest reigning secondary title(Midcard, whatever you wanna call it)reign, then that would be correct. But your not gonna tell me the longest US champ has the longest IC reign just because he held it longer than the IC champ did.
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Post by King Richius on Nov 15, 2018 5:30:10 GMT -5
So if Brock surpassed Punk, what record does Punk have? Most out of place person in an Octagon 2 years in a row. As much as I like CM Punk, I have to admit it: you're not wrong.
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Post by The American Daydream on Nov 15, 2018 7:03:42 GMT -5
Punk fans can get as specific as they want with the records but the fact remains that the big gold belt, wwe title and universal title are all World Championships and Brock is the longest reigning world champ of the modern era. It’s not about being a Punk fan. CM Punk is the longest reigning wwe champion of the modern era. Holding the belt whose lineage goes back to the first WWE champion, Buddy Rogers. That is an undeniable, undisputable fact. Brock holds the longest WORLD championship (and Universal) reign of the modern era. Holding a main belt on a main show. He does not have the longest reign with the WWE Championship. Once again, undeniable, undisputable fact. Whether you respect either of those records is a personal opinion, but the facts are facts. TLDR; Brock is the longest reigning World Champ of the Modern Era and Punk is going to commentate on MMA bc he can't do it.
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Post by marino13 on Nov 15, 2018 9:41:28 GMT -5
Regardless, I still feel as though the original point is being buried in semantics...
WWE did NOT give Styles a longer run to spite Punk. I've seen plenty of people online claiming that, and it's foolish to think they'd change a whole year of booking to spite a guy who left years ago.
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Post by McBlake on Nov 15, 2018 10:24:45 GMT -5
AJ Styles was given a long reign because, despite arguably being past his prime, he's still one of the best workers in the business and of a generation. Reigns being on Raw and the brand split helped, but there's no denying he earned it. I actually wanted to see him pass Punk but I can't complain. I'd have laughed in your face if you told me 5 years ago he'd have held it for a single day.
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Post by Dan on Nov 15, 2018 14:55:50 GMT -5
I'm kind of shocked at the general negativity towards Daniel Bryan being WWE Champion, and the proposition of a Match vs Brock Lesnar. A year ago, people would beg for the chance for Daniel Bryan to even return to the ring, let alone win the Title again.
However, it's a lot to do with typical WWE ruining everything. The booking of Daniel Bryan and his character has been terrible since his return. He should have been kept as a special attraction, with having either a hugely heated feud with Miz or big PPV dream Matches. Appreciate him while he's there. Instead, he became a fully fledged active member of the roster, wrestling on Smackdown almost every week, and very quickly staled up after losing extremely frequently, and to the likes of Big Cass.
I'm all for surprises, but Bryan going over AJ Styles one week before a PPV, for no apparent reason, when they aren't even in a feud together is hard to understand. Bryan winning the Title should have been a big deal. AJ Styles 500+ day reign as Champion coming to an end should have been a big deal. It's all very strange and people don't know how to react to it.
If that isn't enough, then one of the biggest dream Wrestlemania-worthy Matches has now became a completely random throwaway Match. Zero build. Zero meaning. Daniel Bryan vs Brock Lesnar should have been the biggest David vs Goliath story ever. They could even have played on the reality of things, how Lesnar is never there yet Champion, whilst Daniel Bryan had everything taken away from him and was always forced and held back. The momentum Daniel Bryan could have had behind him as a face after returning, paired with the fed up distain most of the audience have with Lesnar's long reigns, joined with the mouthwatering prospect of the underdog slaying the Beast, could have been so special.
I wouldn't put it past this Match having some sort of controversy or dusty finish. They've booked themselves into a huge corner once again. Brock Lesnar needs a dominant win, as he needed the help of Baron Corbin and 5 F5's to put away Braun Strowman who isn't even a Champion. Bryan on the other hand has just won the Title by beating the longest reigning WWE Champion in the last few years, has a new heel persona, yet has no real chance of beating Brock Lesnar.
The whole thing should have been great, yet it's been squandered simply down to illogical booking.
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Post by Edge618 on Nov 16, 2018 4:21:22 GMT -5
It’s not about being a Punk fan. CM Punk is the longest reigning wwe champion of the modern era. Holding the belt whose lineage goes back to the first WWE champion, Buddy Rogers. That is an undeniable, undisputable fact. Brock holds the longest WORLD championship (and Universal) reign of the modern era. Holding a main belt on a main show. He does not have the longest reign with the WWE Championship. Once again, undeniable, undisputable fact. Whether you respect either of those records is a personal opinion, but the facts are facts. TLDR; Brock is the longest reigning World Champ of the Modern Era and Punk is going to commentate on MMA bc he can't do it. You are correct. And CM Punk is the longest reigning WWE champ of the modern era. There’s a reason all you trolls keep saying “world” .You know what you’re doing, so sad.
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