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Post by Chicago on Nov 8, 2018 3:22:14 GMT -5
Cleaned up this thread because I think we can all agree that the less said about Chyna's past, the better.
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Post by Hound on Nov 8, 2018 8:47:21 GMT -5
Lol why a 100% no on a Bald Vince from ECW
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Post by legendsguy on Nov 8, 2018 11:50:55 GMT -5
we wil never get Owen, Mountie or Ventura.. saddens me Wait...what’s the deal with no Ventura?! I must have missed something Edit - I read and saw no legends deal. But I wouldn’t put that in the same breath as Owen and Mountie. Much different circumstances right? yea maybe , although Ventura has been in the spotlight for crazy stuff. so I kinda doubt we ever see him signed to a legends deal. although I guess it could happen. |
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Post by Mongo Bears on Nov 8, 2018 13:12:35 GMT -5
Wait...what’s the deal with no Ventura?! I must have missed something Edit - I read and saw no legends deal. But I wouldn’t put that in the same breath as Owen and Mountie. Much different circumstances right? yea maybe , although Ventura has been in the spotlight for crazy stuff. so I kinda doubt we ever see him signed to a legends deal. although I guess it could happen. I would think wwe would be proud to have had a wrestler being a governor even though I know Jesse is a bit far out there personally. |
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Post by tyco84 on Nov 8, 2018 13:58:27 GMT -5
yea maybe , although Ventura has been in the spotlight for crazy stuff. so I kinda doubt we ever see him signed to a legends deal. although I guess it could happen. I would think wwe would be proud to have had a wrestler being a governor even though I know Jesse is a bit far out there personally. WWE might have offered him one, it doesn't mean he has to sign it. They may have offered alot of guys deals, it doesn't mean they have to sign one either. Some guys don't want to be under WWE's "thumb." |
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Post by Mongo Bears on Nov 8, 2018 14:41:21 GMT -5
I would think wwe would be proud to have had a wrestler being a governor even though I know Jesse is a bit far out there personally. WWE might have offered him one, it doesn't mean he has to sign it. They may have offered alot of guys deals, it doesn't mean they have to sign one either. Some guys don't want to be under WWE's "thumb." You right. |
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Post by Al_Snow_MotherF***ers on Nov 10, 2018 0:48:50 GMT -5
But why no billy Graham doe?
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Post by MKSavage on Nov 11, 2018 1:16:56 GMT -5
I would think wwe would be proud to have had a wrestler being a governor even though I know Jesse is a bit far out there personally. WWE might have offered him one, it doesn't mean he has to sign it. They may have offered alot of guys deals, it doesn't mean they have to sign one either. Some guys don't want to be under WWE's "thumb." I think you're right. I remember hearing Bret say in an interview that he has been hesitant to sign deals with the WWE because then they own you, your likeness, and you're name, and they get to tell you when and where you can work - they also can tell you were you can't work making it hard to make money elsewhere during the duration of the contract. I also think Scott Steiner may have mentioned something about the legends contract being relatively small in comparison to what some of these guys can make elsewhere. |
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Post by stc13 on Nov 11, 2018 9:41:27 GMT -5
WWE might have offered him one, it doesn't mean he has to sign it. They may have offered alot of guys deals, it doesn't mean they have to sign one either. Some guys don't want to be under WWE's "thumb." I think you're right. I remember hearing Bret say in an interview that he has been hesitant to sign deals with the WWE because then they own you, your likeness, and you're name, and they get to tell you when and where you can work - they also can tell you were you can't work making it hard to make money elsewhere during the duration of the contract. I also think Scott Steiner may have mentioned something about the legends contract being relatively small in comparison to what some of these guys can make elsewhere. There's a reason why most wrestlers who are still semi-active (think Jarrett, R&R Express, Steiner) aren't under contract. A number of the Legends deals became public record during the concussion lawsuit. They pay the wrestler a $10K advance for use of their trademark and likeness - video games, trading cards, tshirts, dvd's, figures, etc. The deals are 5 years with a WWE option to extend it for a 6th, and WWE retains global marketing rights to the trademarks for the duration of the deal. So for someone like Hart or Steiner who own their ring name (or use their actual name), they would be signing away those rights. Wrestlers are paid a percentage of WWE's marketing royalties against that 10k advance. Iirc, it was 25% on figures, which sounds great on paper. But when you factor in store markup and the cut WWE and Mattel get, it's probably somewhere around $.25-.50 going to the wrestler for an Elite sale. And again, that is paid against that advance they received, so they don't see a dime until it exceeds that intial 10k. WWE also guarantees the wrestler a flat appearance fee ($600?) for WWE appearances (Axcess, etc). Most guys likely never make much more than the initial 10K advance. And they are able to still do indy appearances, I believe. It's basically free money for those who are out of the business or the estates of deceased wrestlers. But for wrestlers who are still fairly active, selling their own merch at shows and on ProWrestlingTees, signing away their merch rights would probably mean a huge pay cut. I believe some of the bigger stars who own their name may have negotiated their own terms, since Hart, Austin, HBK, and others have PWT stores. But they have more leverage. For lower tier wrestlers, the Legends deal is a take it or leave it offer. And as much as I would love some of those figures, I can't blame them for not taking it. This is also why Jakks and early Mattel were able to get so many wrestlers under individual contracts - the wrestler was just signing for figure rights, not signing away all of their marketing rights as they have to do with WWE. |
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Post by venomeratt on Dec 4, 2018 14:13:13 GMT -5
Twitter updates from 11/7/2018 - 12/4/2018. I will add these to the front page when I get a new computer. My laptop finally cratered making this a much more difficult project.
Flashback Series 3:
Why so many Walmarts havent got them - "I don't know how Walmart allocates their exclusives" - Bill, Twitter - 11/30/2018
Hercules:
"No" (but the family is interested in legends deal) - Bill, Twitter - 11/23/2018
Jimmy Snuka:
If you could redo any legend who would it be? "Jimmy Snuka, but it's not going to happen. If you don't know why, look it up."- Bill, Twitter - 12/01/2018
King Harley Race:
Why Race is short packed: "Because the other figures are more well known. Recent figures of lesser known legends (Tugboat, Warlord, Berserker) hung on pegs longer than other figures in the waves. Not a botch, a decision." - Bill, Twitter - 11/27/2018
Money in the bank basic variants:
- On if they stopped at series 85. "Pretty sure, yes" - Bill, Twitter - 11/21/2018
Sensational Sherri:
Paintless straps - "Paint was adjusted" - Actionfiguresattack, Twitter 11/09/2018
Terry Gordy/Executioner:
"No, more likely (Terry as a Freebid), but not likely soon. Not under a deal." - "Bill, Twitter - 11/30/2018
Ultimates Line:
- Scale: "Same scale as Elites" - Actionfiguresattack, Twitter - 11/16/2018
- Price Point - "$29.99" - Actionfiguresattack, Twitter - 11/16/2018
Walgreens Womens Line:
Any news? - "Alexa soon, 'Glow' Naomi after that." - Bill, Twitter - 12/03/2018
Woken Matt Hardy:
- On if there is a plan to release one with entrance robe. - "I dont see why there wouldnt (be a plan)" - Bill, Twitter - 11/23/2018
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Post by Mongo Bears on Dec 4, 2018 14:55:41 GMT -5
No Hercules....Boooooo
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2018 16:31:05 GMT -5
Twitter updates from 11/7/2018 - 12/4/2018. I will add these to the front page when I get a new computer. My laptop finally cratered making this a much more difficult project. King Harley Race:Why Race is short packed: "Because the other figures are more well known. Recent figures of lesser known legends (Tugboat, Warlord, Berserker) hung on pegs longer than other figures in the waves. Not a botch, a decision." - Bill, Twitter - 11/27/2018 Based on this comment, I think its quite doubtful that we will ever see figures of the mid-carders that many on here have been requesting such as Greg Valentine, Haku, Hercules, Muraco & Crush. Also, based on a comment Bill made in the recent Q&A that he did in the UK, WWE is only interested in signing legends that can make them some money. Its good to know that Herc's family is interested in signing a legends deal but the key is whether WWE is interested in signing a deal with them?! I think a Hercules figure would do well, only 1 figure has ever been made of Hercules and that was from LJN. There are no modern style figures of Hercules with the multiple points of articulation like Jakks & Mattel figures have. I am hoping there is an outside chance that a figure gets made, if its released in a smaller quantity it should do fine. |
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Post by rkmo: A Lack of Fortitude on Dec 4, 2018 16:50:17 GMT -5
I'm expecting an entrance jacket for Woken Matt in the upcoming Epic Moments. Hope MDT's coyness is due to the set not yet being revealed, not because there was no room in da budget.
Also, is Paige still next up for the Walgreen's Women's Division line or did she get bumped for Bliss and Naomi?
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Post by legendsguy on Dec 4, 2018 16:59:28 GMT -5
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Post by TheBadGuyChico on Dec 4, 2018 17:52:40 GMT -5
I wish we could sweep the allegations against Snuka under the carpet, I hate to see his brand fade away.
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Post by stc13 on Dec 4, 2018 18:04:08 GMT -5
I wish we could sweep the allegations against Snuka under the carpet, I hate to see his brand fade away. While I don't think Snuka was/is innocent, I also never really understood all supposed outrage over the last few years. Argentino's death and Snuka's alleged role and the subsequent sweeping it under the rug for decades was basically an open secret among wrestling fans going back as far as I can remember. There was a section on Snuka's wikipedia page years before the case was repoened. The facts of the case never changed, just that there was prosecutor who decided to press charges. If you thought Snuka did it, nothing would have changed that view. If you thought Snuka was innocent, there wasn't anything that would have changed that view either. But Mattel is a publicly traded company, so I guess it's the saying that perception is reality. |
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Post by theicwguy on Dec 4, 2018 19:41:51 GMT -5
I'm expecting an entrance jacket for Woken Matt in the upcoming Epic Moments. Hope MDT's coyness is due to the set not yet being revealed, not because there was no room in da budget. Also, is Paige still next up for the Walgreen's Women's Division line or did she get bumped for Bliss and Naomi? Pretty sure it's Paige Alexa Naomi... I hope so.😁 |
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Post by wrestlingdelorean on Dec 4, 2018 19:57:14 GMT -5
Twitter updates from 11/7/2018 - 12/4/2018. I will add these to the front page when I get a new computer. My laptop finally cratered making this a much more difficult project. King Harley Race:Why Race is short packed: "Because the other figures are more well known. Recent figures of lesser known legends (Tugboat, Warlord, Berserker) hung on pegs longer than other figures in the waves. Not a botch, a decision." - Bill, Twitter - 11/27/2018 This unfortunately shows quite a lack of foresight from Bill. There is demand for this figure, which is going for anywhere from three to five times the price on eBay. I still don't understand why if it's a figure that isn't likely to sell as well -- which apparently it is -- the BAF head was not packed with him. Seems to be a no-brainer on how to spike interest.
Never mind all of those Steve Austins clogging shelves ...
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Post by disorder on Dec 4, 2018 20:00:23 GMT -5
I wish we could sweep the allegations against Snuka under the carpet, I hate to see his brand fade away. While I don't think Snuka was/is innocent, I also never really understood all supposed outrage over the last few years. Argentino's death and Snuka's alleged role and the subsequent sweeping it under the rug for decades was basically an open secret among wrestling fans going back as far as I can remember. There was a section on Snuka's wikipedia page years before the case was repoened. The facts of the case never changed, just that there was prosecutor who decided to press charges. If you thought Snuka did it, nothing would have changed that view. If you thought Snuka was innocent, there wasn't anything that would have changed that view either. But Mattel is a publicly traded company, so I guess it's the saying that perception is reality. I don’t think either of you under stand why it will never happen. He was being charged with murder before he died. Done, over with. Doesn’t matter if wrestling fans knew. The line is aimed towards children and the moment it became national news, was the moment that we would never see a snuka figure from Mattel again. Dude murdered a woman. No children’s toy company would tread that line |
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Post by Artie Kendall on Dec 4, 2018 20:05:25 GMT -5
Tell me Bill didn't compare Harley Race to Tugboat, Warlord, and Berzerker...
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