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Post by warriorlynx on Oct 4, 2018 8:51:21 GMT -5
 EDIT: I just realized that this was billed as part of a "DOUBLE MAIN EVENT" during a Wrestlemania IX Report.We know that Hulk was brought back in the WWF to do the summer tour (Vince hoped for Summerslam too), but that was supposed to be with the WWF title, and plans changed. Before WMIX, I honestly thought that Hulk and Beefcake were going to win the Tag titles. They were pretty much talking about it in promos and I liked how Beefcake had the mask that was "indestructible". I mean they pretty much screwed the Nasty Boys over by taking that spot, so why not? The tag division throughout 1993 had the Steiners, Money Inc, Beverly Bros, Bushwackers, Headshrinkers, the Smoking Gunns, Men on a Mission (July debut), Quebecers (July debut) and SMW tag teams. Let's assume that Hulk agrees to continue on as a tag team competitor to meet his movie/TV schedules, so the Megamaniacs win the tag titles at WMIX. Can you picture the Megamaniacs defending the Tag titles with any of these contenders, assuming they stick around longer (maybe dropping the titles to the Steiners at Summerslam)? |
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Post by JimRiga on Oct 4, 2018 12:21:54 GMT -5
If Hogan refused to put over Bret Hart (allegedly), then I can’t see him putting any of the teams over. They’d probably have an injury angle causing them to give up the belts or do something similar to when the Steiners lost them to the Quebeccers in a Quebec Rules match or something.
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Post by The Brain on Oct 4, 2018 13:43:21 GMT -5
With how big Hogan's ego was during those days, I couldn't see him holding any title but the World Title. In his eyes all other belts were beneath him.
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Post by JokerFC on Oct 5, 2018 5:39:40 GMT -5
I find it really difficult to picture Hogan with the tag straps...
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Post by cordless2016 on Oct 5, 2018 10:34:24 GMT -5
Hogan would have never held the tag belts. He didn’t view them as anything worthwhile.
WMIX is always fascinating. Bret claims he was told by Vince that Hogan would put him over at SummerSlam ‘93 to regain the belt. Bret says they even did a photo shoot of them playing tug of war with the belt.
Bruce Pritchard claims that was never the plan and that Hulk only got the strap to boost the upcoming European Tour ticket sales before dropping it back to Yoko. From here he says Luger was to be the top guy who was suppose to get the strap at SummerSlam before Vince changed his mind.
Luger claims he was never promised the belt and that it was never in the plans for him to win it.
And Hogan claims that it was Vince who sabotaged the suppose match with him and Bret.
It’s like how many licks does it take to get to the center of a tootsie-pop...the world may never know (what truely happened).
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Post by warriorlynx on Oct 5, 2018 17:45:49 GMT -5
Hogan would have never held the tag belts. He didn’t view them as anything worthwhile. WMIX is always fascinating. Bret claims he was told by Vince that Hogan would put him over at SummerSlam ‘93 to regain the belt. Bret says they even did a photo shoot of them playing tug of war with the belt. Bruce Pritchard claims that was never the plan and that Hulk only got the strap to boost the upcoming European Tour ticket sales before dropping it back to Yoko. From here he says Luger was to be the top guy who was suppose to get the strap at SummerSlam before Vince changed his mind. Luger claims he was never promised the belt and that it was never in the plans for him to win it. And Hogan claims that it was Vince who sabotaged the suppose match with him and Bret. It’s like how many licks does it take to get to the center of a tootsie-pop...the world may never know (what truely happened). Hulk still had an ego in his 2002 return - kind of - and won the Tag titles for the first time. But I get what you mean back then he probably wouldn't have done it. This is the way I see it: 1. Yokozuna was always meant to go over at WMIX since Bret wasn't drawing and they needed a monster heel to create the next big face 2. Bret is told by Vince that he has to drop the belt to Yoko, so that Hulk will drop it to Bret at Summerslam, but Bret was still whining apparently even after WMIX (probably didn't trust Hulk). Bret also had other previous promises such as beating Warrior. 3. Hulk claims it was Vince's idea the day of to get the title at WMIX, but I don't buy it, Hulk probably gave the idea to Vince that he take the belt now (aka WMIX) and drop it to Yoko before the tour and won't be doing SummerSlam 4. Vince told Bret one thing, told Hulk the other, and both men had their altercation. |
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Post by Nivro™ on Oct 5, 2018 20:48:41 GMT -5
The Steiner Brothers should have been given the straps in their first match and not lost them until their last match. Just sayin
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Post by TheEvilDoink1987 on Oct 5, 2018 22:05:25 GMT -5
The Steiner Brothers should have been given the straps in their first match and not lost them until their last match. Just sayin Solid booking by me. Having them flip-flop the belts with Money Inc. just to lose them again to the Quebecers did them no favors. The Steiners had a solid tenure in the WWF, as brief as it was, but they really could have benefited from a more lengthy title run. They didn't rule the division as much as they should have. |
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Post by hbkbigdaddycool on Oct 5, 2018 22:14:33 GMT -5
I find it really difficult to picture Hogan with the tag straps...
In 2002 he was okay being Tag Champion with Edge at least.
But as for the 1993 era, I still think having Hogan and Beefcake as Tag Champions vs. Money Inc on house show A and having Bret vs. Yoko for the WWE Title on house show B would have helped 1993 out big time with financial factors.
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Post by Nivro™ on Oct 5, 2018 22:18:44 GMT -5
The Steiner Brothers should have been given the straps in their first match and not lost them until their last match. Just sayin Solid booking by me. Having them flip-flop the belts with Money Inc. just to lose them again to the Quebecers did them no favors. The Steiners had a solid tenure in the WWF, as brief as it was, but they really could have benefited from a more lengthy title run. They didn't rule the division as much as they should have. Legion of Doom & Steiner Brothers are arguably (at least some might argue, Im not sure who) the 2 greatest tag teams of all times yet both had such a lack luster run with the titles in the WWF. I just never could understand why WWF never could get tag team wrestling right. Maybe its because both teams werent "his" |
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Post by JokerFC on Oct 6, 2018 0:26:03 GMT -5
Solid booking by me. Having them flip-flop the belts with Money Inc. just to lose them again to the Quebecers did them no favors. The Steiners had a solid tenure in the WWF, as brief as it was, but they really could have benefited from a more lengthy title run. They didn't rule the division as much as they should have. Legion of Doom & Steiner Brothers are arguably (at least some might argue, Im not sure who) the 2 greatest tag teams of all times yet both had such a lack luster run with the titles in the WWF. I just never could understand why WWF never could get tag team wrestling right. Maybe its because both teams werent "his" And they were both teams Vince pursued RABIDLY. Both teams were problematic though......RWs because of Hawks issues which were bad enough from the time they started with WWF & The Steiners because of their seemingly difficult attitude backstage. But yeah after Vinces "golden era" of Tag wrestling it was hit/miss stuff all the way to now. |
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Post by JokerFC on Oct 6, 2018 0:28:12 GMT -5
I find it really difficult to picture Hogan with the tag straps...
In 2002 he was okay being Tag Champion with Edge at least.
But as for the 1993 era, I still think having Hogan and Beefcake as Tag Champions vs. Money Inc on house show A and having Bret vs. Yoko for the WWE Title on house show B would have helped 1993 out big time with financial factors.
Oh for sure....he was a different guy altogether in 2002. Also agreed about the house show situation. |
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Post by PJ on Oct 7, 2018 14:44:03 GMT -5
Legion of Doom & Steiner Brothers are arguably (at least some might argue, Im not sure who) the 2 greatest tag teams of all times yet both had such a lack luster run with the titles in the WWF. I just never could understand why WWF never could get tag team wrestling right. Maybe its because both teams werent "his" And they were both teams Vince pursued RABIDLY. Both teams were problematic though......RWs because of Hawks issues which were bad enough from the time they started with WWF & The Steiners because of their seemingly difficult attitude backstage. But yeah after Vinces "golden era" of Tag wrestling it was hit/miss stuff all the way to now. Were both Steiners difficult backstage in the WWF? I thought it was just Scott who was difficult to deal with in the WWF. |
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Post by Artie Kendall on Oct 7, 2018 15:30:13 GMT -5
Were both Steiners difficult backstage in the WWF? I thought it was just Scott who was difficult to deal with in the WWF. Both of them were back in 1993-1994. Rick stated that Vince McMahon wasn't keeping his word/promise of what the team was going to do. Jim Cornette has shed some light on how both of them were back then in shoot interviews because the Heavenly Bodies had matches with them. |
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Post by JokerFC on Oct 7, 2018 23:27:11 GMT -5
And they were both teams Vince pursued RABIDLY. Both teams were problematic though......RWs because of Hawks issues which were bad enough from the time they started with WWF & The Steiners because of their seemingly difficult attitude backstage. But yeah after Vinces "golden era" of Tag wrestling it was hit/miss stuff all the way to now. Were both Steiners difficult backstage in the WWF? I thought it was just Scott who was difficult to deal with in the WWF. Yeah I believe so PJ.... conflicting reports of how badly mind you. Has Prichard covered them? I'd be interested in hearing what he has to say? |
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Post by TheEvilDoink1987 on Oct 8, 2018 4:55:58 GMT -5
Were both Steiners difficult backstage in the WWF? I thought it was just Scott who was difficult to deal with in the WWF. Yeah I believe so PJ.... conflicting reports of how badly mind you. Has Prichard covered them? I'd be interested in hearing what he has to say? I've always heard the rumor that Vince wanted to pit Rick and Scott against each other during the Rumble match in 1994, but both balked at the idea which was pretty much the nail in their WWF careers as I don't recall either doing anything after that PPV. I'm curious when their last WWF appearance even was? They stuck around until after Wrestlemania X it seems, but were kept off TV. Pretty sure Bret even mentioned in his book that they were intentionally roughing up jobbers towards the end of their run in hopes that Vince would let them out of their contracts even earlier. And Scott was always picking on Dink backstage because he's a tough guy. |
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Post by Hulkster2001 on Oct 17, 2018 7:19:39 GMT -5
2. Bret is told by Vince that he has to drop the belt to Yoko, so that Hulk will drop it to Bret at Summerslam, but Bret was still whining apparently even after WMIX (probably didn't trust Hulk). Bret also had other previous promises such as beating Warrior. Bret was always a whiner, honestly he should’ve never been the face of the WWF. To quote Stone Cold, “If ya put the letter S in front of Hitman, you got my opinion of Bret Hart!”
Also from now on I’ll dub him as: Bret The B*tch man Hart. (Can’t wait for the marks to flip out) |
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Post by Hulkster2001 on Oct 17, 2018 7:23:43 GMT -5
I think it would’ve been interesting to see them as Tag Champs (sure the ego problem as many mentioned but Vince probably would’ve promised him a world title anyways) and maybe Hogan would stay in the WWF past ‘93? (Again Vince promising Hulk the title) I think Mania X’s main event would’ve been Hogan v. Yoko for the WWF championship following the Manics losing the tag belts sometime prior to or even at the Rumble, Hogan would’ve won the Rumble then beaten Yoko for the belt and carried it for a while til he drops it to someone. (Heck, it could’ve been Bret this time if he wanted.)
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