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Post by LK3 on Nov 6, 2018 21:38:01 GMT -5
Hard to disagree there. It's absolutely a shame that Roman's cancer returned, but this would have been a good time to turn the page and roll with Braun and see what happens, but instead, Vince chickened out and went back to Brock. I think Joe is also dancing back and forth on that point of no return line since he's a destroyer...but can't win the big ones. I don't think he's dancing on it anymore.. |
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Post by BSR on Nov 6, 2018 23:29:06 GMT -5
Jinder mother  ing Mahal won the title. Not one ing wrestler is damaged beyond repair. |
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Post by TheEvilDoink1987 on Nov 6, 2018 23:42:14 GMT -5
Braun is apparently injured, so I'm sure WWE doesn't want to be all in on Braun knowing he's working hurt and may need surgery. I kind of get that, but remember when Stone Cold was injured after taking the piledriver from Owen. Sure, his in-ring stuff was limited afterwards, however, Vince knew he was a cash cow and protected him otherwise to maintain his value. If Vince was really 100% committed to Brain he'd find a way to highlight him despite any injuries. |
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Post by rkfastmo on Nov 7, 2018 14:29:50 GMT -5
Strowman was never meant to get a push. During the initial rivalry between Braun and Roman Reigns he was merely meant to be Dat Dude's summer feud to build up his résumé, with Braun playing the otherwise unstoppable, dominant monster heel. Roman's unpopularity along with his badassery led to fans cheering him.
When Creative finally pulled the trigger with running Braun as a face, he took a massive step down to not be direct competition for Reigns. Then when Raw needed a full-timer to play heel against a champion Reigns, they decided to revive and fulfill the 2017 feud between them, with it having none of the heat because Creative made sure Braun was now a chickensh*t heel to dampen down cheers.
Now in a desperate need for a top face they fall back to Braun by turning him into an anti-authority Reigns surrogate. Because they are imbeciles.
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Post by winxclubflora on Nov 7, 2018 15:00:39 GMT -5
Vince doesn't like talented, charismatic big men that have more than 4 moves in their arsenal. That's why so many guys have previously "failed to grab the brass ring" in the WWE and why people like Braun, Apollo, Doc Gallows, Bobby, Bray and Kevin are stuck in the midcard, while Brock and Roman are always fighting for the Raw belt. The Smackdown side doesn't look better: Harper, Rowan and Big E Langston are stuck in the tag division for eternity and Samoa Job Joe is just there do lay down for Styles.
Let's go further and take a look at former WWE talents like Umaga, Vader, Bam Bam, Albert (...) and you'll see how Vince treats credible, potential powerhouse world champs poorly.
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Post by PJ on Nov 7, 2018 15:46:47 GMT -5
I don’t see it that way. First let me say I am not a Braun fan...and I personally think he should be a flat out heel instead of the face doing heel actions and bullying the heel like with the whole KO feud. But in any case if he is really working with a semi-serious injury they shouldn’t be putting the title on him. But it took Brock outside help from Corbin and five F-5’s to put Braun down so he doesn’t look weak at all. If anything it made Brock look like less of a beast.
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Post by Nick Papagiorgio on Nov 7, 2018 15:59:44 GMT -5
This is what 50/50 booking looks like and it doesn't help the talent at all. The creative in WWE is the worst that it has ever been in recent memory, it's so hard to be a fan of this company with bad booking and lame story lines. I hate that stuff they did with AJ Styles and Samoa Joe, that's the best you can come up with for two talented wrestlers. Vince McMahon really needs to step down from this post as the chairman and let his son in a law Triple H, Shane and Stephanie McMahon run the company. They need to stop with this 50/50 booking non-sense cause it's making your talent look bad and turns off people to the product.
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Post by rowdy1971 on Nov 7, 2018 17:58:34 GMT -5
When Braun finally gets a small run with a major title it'll be just like when Bray finally won it. A couple years too late. Sure Braun has a long future in wrestling and I don't like the idea of putting the title on someone who just really started, but, nobody can't deny the force and response from the audience that Braun was getting. The trigger should have been pulled many PPVS ago. When it finally does happen, nobody will really care.
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Post by tylerbreezee on Nov 7, 2018 20:01:13 GMT -5
Let’s also not forget that Vince was very high on Strowman when he first debuted meanwhile we all thought he was going to be trash
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Post by LaParka on Nov 7, 2018 20:26:42 GMT -5
Braun also flip-flopping between heel and face these past few months hasn't helped him either. He's following the Big Show by doing that.
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Post by Nivro™ on Nov 7, 2018 20:49:14 GMT -5
Lets be honest, Drew McIntyre is the future of the company so it really didnt matter how Braun was booked...he would just be keeping the title shined until Drew takes it.
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Post by Robert69 on Nov 7, 2018 20:50:21 GMT -5
If this all doesn’t seem familiar, take a look back at how over Bray Wyatt was to start, and what they did in feeding him to Cena. Repeatedly.
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Post by marino13 on Nov 7, 2018 22:00:48 GMT -5
Lets be honest, Drew McIntyre is the future of the company so it really didnt matter how Braun was booked...he would just be keeping the title shined until Drew takes it. I still remember that after Drew got released, you & I were both still positive he was a future WWE champion. It's only a matter of time now. |
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Post by IRS on Nov 7, 2018 22:27:28 GMT -5
Lets be honest, Drew McIntyre is the future of the company so it really didnt matter how Braun was booked...he would just be keeping the title shined until Drew takes it. I still remember that after Drew got released, you & I were both still positive he was a future WWE champion. It's only a matter of time now. ... I was still positive about Drew.  |
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Post by Codyverse: Tag Team Champion on Nov 8, 2018 12:22:14 GMT -5
Report is Braun is his own worst enemy. Apparently he’s late, likes to leave early and isn’t up to “WWE standard” on backstage etiquette
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Post by hbkowns on Nov 8, 2018 14:24:18 GMT -5
I do agree that Drew is most definitely going to get a run for sure. I wouldn’t be surprised if he goes over Brock clean as a whistle.
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Post by marino13 on Nov 8, 2018 17:11:17 GMT -5
Personally, I always liked the climb. The fight to get to the top. Watching guys like Shawn Micheals & Bret Hart start at the bottom, fail, and then eventually reach the top made it feel much more earned. I don't recall ever thinking HBK was damaged beyond compare when he failed to defeat Hart or Diesel for the title.
IMO not everyone needs to debut, go undefeated, and then win the big one right away. But maybe that's just me.
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Post by Rude Awakening on Nov 8, 2018 17:38:51 GMT -5
Personally, I always liked the climb. The fight to get to the top. Watching guys like Shawn Micheals & Bret Hart start at the bottom, fail, and then eventually reach the top made it feel much more earned. I don't recall ever thinking HBK was damaged beyond compare when he failed to defeat Hart or Diesel for the title. IMO not everyone needs to debut, go undefeated, and then win the big one right away. But maybe that's just me. I agree 100% and this is the problem that nxt creates. Fans get connected to the wrestlers on nxt that when they debut they want them pushed to the moon week one |
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Post by marino13 on Nov 8, 2018 17:53:52 GMT -5
Personally, I always liked the climb. The fight to get to the top. Watching guys like Shawn Micheals & Bret Hart start at the bottom, fail, and then eventually reach the top made it feel much more earned. I don't recall ever thinking HBK was damaged beyond compare when he failed to defeat Hart or Diesel for the title. IMO not everyone needs to debut, go undefeated, and then win the big one right away. But maybe that's just me. I agree 100% and this is the problem that nxt creates. Fans get connected to the wrestlers on nxt that when they debut they want them pushed to the moon week one Even Stone Cold came in and had several failed attempts at winning the gold. |
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Post by FLUX '97 on Nov 8, 2018 18:03:35 GMT -5
Personally, I always liked the climb. The fight to get to the top. Watching guys like Shawn Micheals & Bret Hart start at the bottom, fail, and then eventually reach the top made it feel much more earned. I don't recall ever thinking HBK was damaged beyond compare when he failed to defeat Hart or Diesel for the title. IMO not everyone needs to debut, go undefeated, and then win the big one right away. But maybe that's just me. I agree 100% and this is the problem that nxt creates. Fans get connected to the wrestlers on nxt that when they debut they want them pushed to the moon week one Braun didn’t even work NXT, he just got over naturally on the main roster. |
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