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Post by CM Poor on Nov 14, 2018 11:03:21 GMT -5
Yikes.
Manu was released before Wrestlemania 25. Sim Snuka was the cameraman that missed the catch at WM25. He was released two months later.
In either case, neither individual's familial ties afforded them any future endeavor armor.
See also: Umaga, Rikishi, Rosey
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Post by punksnotdead on Nov 14, 2018 11:06:17 GMT -5
I think this largely works out from a booking standpoint. Becky is getting super hot and we don't need the Ronda match until Mania with her. Now they can build towards it and they have tons of story ammo to do it.
I was pretty disappointed on how Becky handed off to Charlotte, though. That took away from Becky's cool factor. They should have had her say something to the degree of "I don't care who Ronda faces. I'm going to get better, and I'm going to hunt Ronda down." Then do some kind of contrived battle royal or elimination scramble or something and let Charlotte win.
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Post by drifter on Nov 14, 2018 11:12:05 GMT -5
But Nia Jax is part of the almighty somoan family that Vince apparently owes a lifelong debt to because they obviously helped him build his empire probably through some sort of underhanded tactic. Think about it, this man helped cover up a MURDER for this family, in regards to Jimmy Snuka. He has a debt to that family, has anybody else figured that one out yet? It’s not loyalty, loyalty is what Bret Hart received as they pushed him out the door to WCW and screwed him on the way out, it’s not loyalty, it’s debt to that family. Think about, Vince has rarely fired any of them, they have always been in his company since day 1, anytime one of them doesn’t get over he repackages them endlessly until they do, (see Rikishi). Nia Jax ain’t going anywhere, in fact, she’s even allowed to be overweight because Vince is so scared to death of Anoa’i family. Keven Owens had to lose weight, he’s chunky at best. Ever heard anybody tell Nia to lose weight? HELL no, infact, they act like it’s empowering that she has an eating disorder and thinks a treadmill manufactures milk Yeah, expect, he's released, Manu, Rosey, Umaga, Riksihi, and Umaga,
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Post by MacReady on Nov 14, 2018 11:20:34 GMT -5
LOL I love all these over the top armchair warrior reactions on here. So many angry little men...
I'm bummed Becky won't make Sunday, but she'll recover FINE and come back with the same steam she's had going forward; it's a setback, not the end of the world.
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Post by TheEvilDoink1987 on Nov 14, 2018 13:20:18 GMT -5
Yikes. Manu was released before Wrestlemania 25. Sim Snuka was the cameraman that missed the catch at WM25. He was released two months later. In either case, neither individual's familial ties afforded them any future endeavor armor. See also: Umaga, Rikishi, Rosey Excellent point. Not everybody who shares The Rock's DNA is immune to punishment and potentially losing their job.
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Post by Ohtimate Wahriah on Nov 14, 2018 14:15:17 GMT -5
So forget about the fire immunity, I hope everybody has noticed he has employed their entire lineage though that hes able to release those guys and we still haven’t gotten to The Rock, Roman, Wild Samoans, Tamina, Nia, USO’s, jimmy Snuka, Haku, Yokozuna, Rocky Maivia, and Peter Maivia...
And Rikishi doesn’t disprove the point I’m making, he had gimmick change after gimmick change in order to keep him employed. Who else has had like 5 gimmicks all with the same company?
That’s an AWFUL lot of superstars in one family don’t ya think? And don’t say they are all talented because there have been PLENTY of talented people that the WWE has had no interest in, or had enough interest to sign them and then do nothing with
You don’t think there is something going on between the McMahon family and the Anoa’i family? Look again...Vince covered up Snuka MURDERING somebody, Jesus people...cmon. READ about it, google it.
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Post by The American Daydream on Nov 14, 2018 14:47:47 GMT -5
Probably. I'm sure the rules that "protect" them are also making sure they can't compete either though. Back in the day people wrestled with hurt wrists, knees, broken noses and fingers etc but now WWE like the rest of the Country is all about safety first. I mean who didnt have a concussion during the Attitude Era lol Bret had a ing stroke cause his dumb ass kept wrestling with a concussion but sure this generations a bunch of pussies cause they're smarter with their long term health. another case of Bret screwing Bret
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Post by TheEvilDoink1987 on Nov 14, 2018 15:06:47 GMT -5
Bret had a ing stroke cause his dumb ass kept wrestling with a concussion but sure this generations a bunch of pussies cause they're smarter with their long term health. another case of Bret screwing Bret Concussion and brain damage awareness have only become mainstream medical issues in the last decade or so, sadly enough. It's not a matter of Bret being dumb, but more about the current generation being educated on how serious these head injuries can be. Anybody else remember those early Attitude Era promos with HBK bragging about having "over a dozen concussions" throughout his career? It made you sound tough in those days, but now people realize these kind of injuries can ruin their lives and possibly kill them. If Bret suffered that Goldberg injury today he wouldn't even be cleared to wrestle and if he was, the current medical opinion overwhelmingly would convince him that any further damage would do irreparable damage. He was from that old school era where you worked hurt despite the lasting side effects you'd endure for the rest of your life. Sad and true all in the same breath. That generation of wrestlers knew no better.
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Post by CM Poor on Nov 14, 2018 15:29:45 GMT -5
Who else has had like 5 gimmicks all with the same company? JBL. Viscera. The Godfather. Kane. Arguably Mick Foley.
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Post by The American Daydream on Nov 14, 2018 16:33:59 GMT -5
another case of Bret screwing Bret Concussion and brain damage awareness have only become mainstream medical issues in the last decade or so, sadly enough. It's not a matter of Bret being dumb, but more about the current generation being educated on how serious these head injuries can be. Anybody else remember those early Attitude Era promos with HBK bragging about having "over a dozen concussions" throughout his career? It made you sound tough in those days, but now people realize these kind of injuries can ruin their lives and possibly kill them. If Bret suffered that Goldberg injury today he wouldn't even be cleared to wrestle and if he was, the current medical opinion overwhelmingly would convince him that any further damage would do irreparable damage. He was from that old school era where you worked hurt despite the lasting side effects you'd endure for the rest of your life. Sad and true all in the same breath. That generation of wrestlers knew no better. I see it everyday in normal life and in the Army. I think its half to do with not being educated on the subject and half to do with stubbornness. The older generation just grew up tougher and now even when you try and look after them they just power through it "because they're men" and thats how they've lived their lives. Theyre wired that way. Very rarely can you teach an old dog new tricks.
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Post by 235guy on Nov 14, 2018 16:53:25 GMT -5
I want to say that I have nothing against Nia's appearance or body type at all. Some people on facebook and youtube being cruel about that is wrong. I'm just talking about her ring work and overall work in wwe so far. Charisma, personality and passion included.
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Post by Rated [R] NinJa on Nov 14, 2018 17:46:38 GMT -5
So forget about the fire immunity, I hope everybody has noticed he has employed their entire lineage though that hes able to release those guys and we still haven’t gotten to The Rock, Roman, Wild Samoans, Tamina, Nia, USO’s, jimmy Snuka, Haku, Yokozuna, Rocky Maivia, and Peter Maivia... And Rikishi doesn’t disprove the point I’m making, he had gimmick change after gimmick change in order to keep him employed. Who else has had like 5 gimmicks all with the same company? That’s an AWFUL lot of superstars in one family don’t ya think? And don’t say they are all talented because there have been PLENTY of talented people that the WWE has had no interest in, or had enough interest to sign them and then do nothing with You don’t think there is something going on between the McMahon family and the Anoa’i family? Look again...Vince covered up Snuka MURDERING somebody, Jesus people...cmon. READ about it, google it. Vince has also hired majority of the Harts, Guerrero’s, Von Erich’s, Rhodes’, Flair’s and more. The Anoa’i Family has produced great talent for about 30 years so what exactly is your point? WWE have employed talented people in the past but they’ve simply failed due to bad attitude or just not cutting it within their system. It has nothing to do with the family ties you’re implying. Also, look at the Anoa’i family tree, where’s Snuka at? lol
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Post by Triple S: POOR on Nov 14, 2018 18:00:51 GMT -5
People are buying into this crap, eh? Like it’s some JBL/Meanie situation. Haha
These girls are still friends, I’m sure and with Charlotte/Ronda being bumped up to Survivor Series... I’m willing to bet we get Ronda/Becky at WrestleMania now.
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Post by BØRNS on Nov 14, 2018 19:53:11 GMT -5
So forget about the fire immunity, I hope everybody has noticed he has employed their entire lineage though that hes able to release those guys and we still haven’t gotten to The Rock, Roman, Wild Samoans, Tamina, Nia, USO’s, jimmy Snuka, Haku, Yokozuna, Rocky Maivia, and Peter Maivia... And Rikishi doesn’t disprove the point I’m making, he had gimmick change after gimmick change in order to keep him employed. Who else has had like 5 gimmicks all with the same company? That’s an AWFUL lot of superstars in one family don’t ya think? And don’t say they are all talented because there have been PLENTY of talented people that the WWE has had no interest in, or had enough interest to sign them and then do nothing with You don’t think there is something going on between the McMahon family and the Anoa’i family? Look again...Vince covered up Snuka MURDERING somebody, Jesus people...cmon. READ about it, google it. Vince has also hired majority of the Harts, Guerrero’s, Von Erich’s, Rhodes’, Flair’s and more. The Anoa’i Family has produced great talent for about 30 years so what exactly is your point? WWE have employed talented people in the past but they’ve simply failed due to bad attitude or just not cutting it within their system. It has nothing to do with the family ties you’re implying. Also, look at the Anoa’i family tree, where’s Snuka at? lol Can we please get the girls on that family tree, too, while we're at it?
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Post by drifter on Nov 14, 2018 23:25:55 GMT -5
So forget about the fire immunity, I hope everybody has noticed he has employed their entire lineage though that hes able to release those guys and we still haven’t gotten to The Rock, Roman, Wild Samoans, Tamina, Nia, USO’s, jimmy Snuka, Haku, Yokozuna, Rocky Maivia, and Peter Maivia... And Rikishi doesn’t disprove the point I’m making, he had gimmick change after gimmick change in order to keep him employed. Who else has had like 5 gimmicks all with the same company? That’s an AWFUL lot of superstars in one family don’t ya think? And don’t say they are all talented because there have been PLENTY of talented people that the WWE has had no interest in, or had enough interest to sign them and then do nothing with You don’t think there is something going on between the McMahon family and the Anoa’i family? Look again...Vince covered up Snuka MURDERING somebody, Jesus people...cmon. READ about it, google it. Um, You know the Rock is Rocky Maivia, right? And Haku is not part of the Anoaʻi family. He's Tongan, the Anoaʻi family are Samoan. Just because they Rock may have refereed to him as h is uncle, doesn't mean they're actually related, more just Haku has been close to the family.
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Post by wheeljack83 on Nov 15, 2018 0:26:51 GMT -5
Seth Rollins wasn't fired or punished for breaking Cena's face in half.
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Post by Ohtimate Wahriah on Nov 15, 2018 0:47:58 GMT -5
So forget about the fire immunity, I hope everybody has noticed he has employed their entire lineage though that hes able to release those guys and we still haven’t gotten to The Rock, Roman, Wild Samoans, Tamina, Nia, USO’s, jimmy Snuka, Haku, Yokozuna, Rocky Maivia, and Peter Maivia... And Rikishi doesn’t disprove the point I’m making, he had gimmick change after gimmick change in order to keep him employed. Who else has had like 5 gimmicks all with the same company? That’s an AWFUL lot of superstars in one family don’t ya think? And don’t say they are all talented because there have been PLENTY of talented people that the WWE has had no interest in, or had enough interest to sign them and then do nothing with You don’t think there is something going on between the McMahon family and the Anoa’i family? Look again...Vince covered up Snuka MURDERING somebody, Jesus people...cmon. READ about it, google it. Um, You know the Rock is Rocky Maivia, right? And Haku is not part of the Anoaʻi family. He's Tongan, the Anoaʻi family are Samoan. Just because they Rock may have refereed to him as h is uncle, doesn't mean they're actually related, more just Haku has been close to the family. Ummmm, I meant Rocky Johnson. Look, I’m over this conversation. I thought I’d be right, and be herald in as the next pro wrestling genius around here and it’s not looking like that’ll be the case so let’s just drop it. I’ll just keep my posts low key for a little bit and let things settle down for my rep and I’ll come back in a month or two with another big statement and hopefully by then you people will realize I’m the smartest wrestling fan around here and celebrate me as such...
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Post by Brad on Nov 15, 2018 1:23:51 GMT -5
This really sucks. I was so excited for that match.
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Post by The American Daydream on Nov 15, 2018 2:01:45 GMT -5
Um, You know the Rock is Rocky Maivia, right? And Haku is not part of the Anoaʻi family. He's Tongan, the Anoaʻi family are Samoan. Just because they Rock may have refereed to him as h is uncle, doesn't mean they're actually related, more just Haku has been close to the family. Ummmm, I meant Rocky Johnson. Look, I’m over this conversation. I thought I’d be right, and be herald in as the next pro wrestling genius around here and it’s not looking like that’ll be the case so let’s just drop it. I’ll just keep my posts low key for a little bit and let things settle down for my rep and I’ll come back in a month or two with another big statement and hopefully by then you people will realize I’m the smartest wrestling fan around here and celebrate me as such... highly unlikely
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Post by Darkhawk on Nov 15, 2018 5:03:34 GMT -5
I was hype for the match!! Thanks a lot Nia Jax way to ruin it for everyone..-.- to look Becky in the eyes and hit her full force with a stiff arm was very unnecessary. Definitely not an accident. Would your reaction be different if it was Asuka who did it to Becky? Asuka who's one of the better workers? Not just the green workers that mess up. It'd be the same reaction regardless of who it is, Nia is 100% wrong for what she did.
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