mrh
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Post by mrh on Nov 23, 2018 23:46:09 GMT -5
My 2 cents is they look to be legit hand painted samples/protos. I own many Mattel Batman protos/samples/test shots in different scales and some are in a combo of different materials; as well as colors. Question should be: Is what price would a collector pay if you wanted to add them to your collection ? If you do not think they are legit, then just do not bid. A lot of times, there isn't a detailed history behind protos. Sometimes you have to trust the integrity of the seller. Sorry to be off-topic Hasbromaniac , but is there any place we can see your Batman protos, etc?
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Hasbromaniac
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Post by Hasbromaniac on Nov 23, 2018 23:54:48 GMT -5
Just sent you a pm.
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Post by casanova on Nov 24, 2018 8:42:16 GMT -5
Would someone be so kind and send me the item number? Asian auctions don’t appear on Ebay if you have a German IP. No worries, not bidding, only lurking. The only prototypes I would buy are WCW Galoob... 🧐...🤔...🤨
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Post by WFR on Nov 24, 2018 9:51:13 GMT -5
Do we all know the Shawn proto has turned up in Japan?
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Post by rvd3434 on Nov 24, 2018 10:04:26 GMT -5
Do we all know the Shawn proto has turned up in Japan? Someone has it? or are you saying that some in Japan, might?
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Post by marklud on Nov 24, 2018 15:47:02 GMT -5
After all that we learned from the somewhat recent Brutus experience, I'm leaning toward these are real. If so, think about it -- guys, we've actually finally seen PAINTED ORANGE CARD PROTOS almost 25 years after the fact. It's amazing. (And has to mean a Diesel will pop up maybe 20 years down the road, lol).
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Post by drnickriviera995 on Nov 25, 2018 5:02:13 GMT -5
After all that we learned from the somewhat recent Brutus experience, I'm leaning toward these are real. If so, think about it -- guys, we've actually finally seen PAINTED ORANGE CARD PROTOS almost 25 years after the fact. It's amazing. (And has to mean a Diesel will pop up maybe 20 years down the road, lol). Wonder if there's any slim chance of art for a series after the orange cards ever showing? Rumored black cards or whatever it would have been.
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Post by MKSavage on Nov 25, 2018 14:59:42 GMT -5
After all that we learned from the somewhat recent Brutus experience, I'm leaning toward these are real. If so, think about it -- guys, we've actually finally seen PAINTED ORANGE CARD PROTOS almost 25 years after the fact. It's amazing. (And has to mean a Diesel will pop up maybe 20 years down the road, lol). Wonder if there's any slim chance of art for a series after the orange cards ever showing? Rumored black cards or whatever it would have been. Was it ever mentioned who was going to be in the rumored black series?
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Post by RedDevil on Nov 25, 2018 15:19:48 GMT -5
Wonder if there's any slim chance of art for a series after the orange cards ever showing? Rumored black cards or whatever it would have been. Was it ever mentioned who was going to be in the rumored black series? The names I remember hearing about years ago for the Black cards were a second (face) Diesel, King of Harts Owen Hart and I think Bob Holly, with some talk of a new Bret and/or Undertaker, but I can’t remember seeing anything to support the rumours. Though if Hasbro did actually get far enough to paint protos of the Orange cards then maybe a Black card list really had been drawn-up somewhere?
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Post by drnickriviera995 on Nov 25, 2018 19:47:38 GMT -5
Was it ever mentioned who was going to be in the rumored black series? The names I remember hearing about years ago for the Black cards were a second (face) Diesel, King of Harts Owen Hart and I think Bob Holly, with some talk of a new Bret and/or Undertaker, but I can’t remember seeing anything to support the rumours. Though if Hasbro did actually get far enough to paint protos of the Orange cards then maybe a Black card list really had been drawn-up somewhere? I heard Undertaker, and Owen would have been a must by that point. No way there would have been a 2nd Diesel right after the orange set though. I thought I also heard the Quebecers, Jerry Lawler, Allied Powers Bulldog among other names thrown about. But, I'm guessing a lot of it was just speculation. Also heard Bret with molded entrance jacket.
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Post by MKSavage on Nov 25, 2018 20:26:21 GMT -5
The names I remember hearing about years ago for the Black cards were a second (face) Diesel, King of Harts Owen Hart and I think Bob Holly, with some talk of a new Bret and/or Undertaker, but I can’t remember seeing anything to support the rumours. Though if Hasbro did actually get far enough to paint protos of the Orange cards then maybe a Black card list really had been drawn-up somewhere? I heard Undertaker, and Owen would have been a must by that point. No way there would have been a 2nd Diesel right after the orange set though. I thought I also heard the Quebecers, Jerry Lawler, Allied Powers Bulldog among other names thrown about. But, I'm guessing a lot of it was just speculation. Also heard Bret with molded entrance jacket. Looking at the date's of the orange series sketches (summer 1994), I doubt that the Allied Powers would have been in the next series since they didn't start tagging until after Royal Rumble 1995. Wouldn't be surprised to see another Bret since the black series would have been #13 which is 5 series after the last Bret figure. Quebecers would have been possible though I don't remember them too much after the summer of 1994, after they dropped the titles to the Headshrinkers. Owen Hart and Jerry Lawler make sense, since Owen was in the WWF title picture at this time. And Jerry just had a feud with Roddy Piper (they main evented KotR 94), not to mention he was on Raw every week and had the King's Court segments. I wasn't aware that Doink was apart of the orange series, I thought it was Diesel, USA Lex, Mo, Mabel, Jarrett, and Booger. Though, if Doink were added to the set it would have matched the same number of figures (seven) as the green card series.
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Post by RedDevil on Nov 25, 2018 20:46:19 GMT -5
The names I remember hearing about years ago for the Black cards were a second (face) Diesel, King of Harts Owen Hart and I think Bob Holly, with some talk of a new Bret and/or Undertaker, but I can’t remember seeing anything to support the rumours. Though if Hasbro did actually get far enough to paint protos of the Orange cards then maybe a Black card list really had been drawn-up somewhere? I heard Undertaker, and Owen would have been a must by that point. No way there would have been a 2nd Diesel right after the orange set though. I thought I also heard the Quebecers, Jerry Lawler, Allied Powers Bulldog among other names thrown about. But, I'm guessing a lot of it was just speculation. Also heard Bret with molded entrance jacket. The Bret with the entrance jacket rings a faint bell in my mind now you mention it - though I was thinking a version without the sunglasses, but I was probably mixing him up with a new Taker without the hat. A second Diesel that quickly would’ve been strange, but if they expected him to be a big seller - which he definitely would’ve been - then maybe they’d want to get another one on the market ASAP; after all they did release new Hogan, Savage and Warrior figures in each of the first three series so maybe similar thinking. Nash’s hair was a lot longer when he had champ compared to the his initial run with HBK, so maybe a new head and a repaint would’ve been all we’d have seen to keep costs down? I don’t remember seeing rumours of the others, but they’d have been great to get - Lawler had been a major ‘want’ of mine those last couple of years, and the Quebecers would’ve been fun to add to my tag division, particularly against the Steiners. What could have been
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Post by RedDevil on Nov 25, 2018 20:55:54 GMT -5
I heard Undertaker, and Owen would have been a must by that point. No way there would have been a 2nd Diesel right after the orange set though. I thought I also heard the Quebecers, Jerry Lawler, Allied Powers Bulldog among other names thrown about. But, I'm guessing a lot of it was just speculation. Also heard Bret with molded entrance jacket. Looking at the date's of the orange series sketches (summer 1994), I doubt that the Allied Powers would have been in the next series since they didn't start tagging until after Royal Rumble 1995. Wouldn't be surprised to see another Bret since the black series would have been #13 which is 5 series after the last Bret figure. Quebecers would have been possible though I don't remember them too much after the summer of 1994, after they dropped the titles to the Headshrinkers. Owen Hart and Jerry Lawler make sense, since Owen was in the WWF title picture at this time. And Jerry just had a feud with Roddy Piper (they main evented KotR 94), not to mention he was on Raw every week and had the King's Court segments. I wasn't aware that Doink was apart of the orange series, I thought it was Diesel, USA Lex, Mo, Mabel, Jarrett, and Booger. Though, if Doink were added to the set it would have matched the same number of figures (seven) as the green card series. Good point on the timing - I thought an Allied Powers Bulldog would’ve been a quick turn-around, but a new Bulldog without the braids would be likely given his profile when he returned at SummerSlam. A version in shorts would’ve been very cool.
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Post by drnickriviera995 on Nov 25, 2018 22:46:09 GMT -5
I heard Undertaker, and Owen would have been a must by that point. No way there would have been a 2nd Diesel right after the orange set though. I thought I also heard the Quebecers, Jerry Lawler, Allied Powers Bulldog among other names thrown about. But, I'm guessing a lot of it was just speculation. Also heard Bret with molded entrance jacket. The Bret with the entrance jacket rings a faint bell in my mind now you mention it - though I was thinking a version without the sunglasses, but I was probably mixing him up with a new Taker without the hat. A second Diesel that quickly would’ve been strange, but if they expected him to be a big seller - which he definitely would’ve been - then maybe they’d want to get another one on the market ASAP; after all they did release new Hogan, Savage and Warrior figures in each of the first three series so maybe similar thinking. Nash’s hair was a lot longer when he had champ compared to the his initial run with HBK, so maybe a new head and a repaint would’ve been all we’d have seen to keep costs down? I don’t remember seeing rumours of the others, but they’d have been great to get - Lawler had been a major ‘want’ of mine those last couple of years, and the Quebecers would’ve been fun to add to my tag division, particularly against the Steiners. What could have been But, it was a different setup with releases in the first 3 series. One "series" was basically that year's line. They had Macho, Hulk and Warrior all get a figure each year for the first 3 years. It's different when a "series" is a wave of 5-7 figs. And 3-4 waves come out in a year in later years. Series 1, 3 and 3 all really had 2 waves per series or I guess you would technically call them assortments.
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Post by nywild3 on Nov 26, 2018 8:10:11 GMT -5
What did these sell for?
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Post by RedDevil on Nov 26, 2018 9:13:06 GMT -5
The Bret with the entrance jacket rings a faint bell in my mind now you mention it - though I was thinking a version without the sunglasses, but I was probably mixing him up with a new Taker without the hat. A second Diesel that quickly would’ve been strange, but if they expected him to be a big seller - which he definitely would’ve been - then maybe they’d want to get another one on the market ASAP; after all they did release new Hogan, Savage and Warrior figures in each of the first three series so maybe similar thinking. Nash’s hair was a lot longer when he had champ compared to the his initial run with HBK, so maybe a new head and a repaint would’ve been all we’d have seen to keep costs down? I don’t remember seeing rumours of the others, but they’d have been great to get - Lawler had been a major ‘want’ of mine those last couple of years, and the Quebecers would’ve been fun to add to my tag division, particularly against the Steiners. What could have been But, it was a different setup with releases in the first 3 series. One "series" was basically that year's line. They had Macho, Hulk and Warrior all get a figure each year for the first 3 years. It's different when a "series" is a wave of 5-7 figs. And 3-4 waves come out in a year in later years. Series 1, 3 and 3 all really had 2 waves per series or I guess you would technically call them assortments. Yeah there was a noticeable shift in the release pattern during the run, but still I could just about see Hasbro thinking flooding the market with Diesels in 1995 might've helped sales. Ultimately I'd think it's not true, but then basically all of this is based on very sketchy sources Both still have five days to run; Luger is currently at $1,025.00 and Doink is at $860.00.
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Post by MKSavage on Nov 26, 2018 9:13:10 GMT -5
If you're talking about the Luger and Doink figures, they haven't sold yet, they still have 5 days left to bid. Right now, Luger is at $1,020 and Doink is at $860.
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Post by hasbrohypebro on Nov 26, 2018 11:50:50 GMT -5
Would someone be so kind and send me the item number? Asian auctions don’t appear on Ebay if you have a German IP. No worries, not bidding, only lurking. The only prototypes I would buy are WCW Galoob... 🧐...🤔...🤨 Hi mate. Here’s the item number for Lex. 283271317592 If youb appen to find Doink could you send me the item number for him please as I can’t find him.
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Post by MKSavage on Nov 26, 2018 13:00:17 GMT -5
Would someone be so kind and send me the item number? Asian auctions don’t appear on Ebay if you have a German IP. No worries, not bidding, only lurking. The only prototypes I would buy are WCW Galoob... 🧐...🤔...🤨 Hi mate. Here’s the item number for Lex. 283271317592 If youb appen to find Doink could you send me the item number for him please as I can’t find him. This worked for me. 283271322491
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2018 14:34:17 GMT -5
What's the odds that the highest bidder on both items is Zack Ryder?
If it is, I reckon he's lumped on at least $5000 a figure to ensure both ends up in his collection...
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