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Post by marino13 on Dec 5, 2018 22:00:00 GMT -5
I was thinking about this, and I figured I'd ask everyone. I know it'll most likely end in a fight, but...
Would you like to see the WWE & Universal titles unified? And then have the WWE champion defend the title across ALL WWE shows? Have him face someone one week on NXT. One week on RAW. Maybe a SD challenger on PPV. Maybe even have a NXT talent challenge on a main show PPV to get someone exposure. Even appear on the occasional UK shows.
Now the champion wouldn't always be on each RAW, SD, or either NXT. Just sporadic shows here n' there. But appear more than Brock does now. Each show would still have their exclusive champions. With Brock gone so often, we've seen the IC title get more focus. So SD would put more emphasis towards the US. And the NXT shows would remain as they are now.
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Post by bababooey on Dec 5, 2018 22:49:55 GMT -5
I’m kinda torn. Part of me would like to see one of each level title defended across all brands. The downside of that though is it eliminates a lot of reasons for feuds. A lot of people will be fighting to random reasons that I’m sure WWE can’t come up with good ideas for. At least titles are an easy reason for people to be fighting.
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Post by hbkbigdaddycool on Dec 6, 2018 1:11:27 GMT -5
I'm gonna go with a big 'no' on this one, just because right now Brock Lesnar would be THAT champion and the belt wouldn't be on either show at the moment.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2018 2:11:09 GMT -5
Alright. Who wants to fight me?
Really though, I think it COULD work. Only issue is the casual fans wouldn’t care and it’s one less championship on the roster and we all know adding “championship” to a match draws attention.
We’re wrestling fans, so we think outside of the box a little.
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Post by PJ on Dec 6, 2018 5:56:19 GMT -5
Yes I always felt they shouldn’t have made the universal championship and just had the WWE Championship on both Raw and SD. But NXT shouldn’t be part of it.
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Post by McBlake on Dec 6, 2018 7:18:59 GMT -5
I wasn't a fan of the Undisputed champion back at the start of the original brand split so no. I doubt they were either because it didn't take them long to introduce the World Heavyweight championship on Raw.
The Brock Lesnar factor should be a deciding factor for a lot of people too.
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Post by IRS on Dec 6, 2018 8:03:11 GMT -5
If you asked me two years ago, I'd have said 'yes'. Now, with their proclivity to constantly leave the Universal Title on Brick, and the mind-boggling Jinder run with the WWE Title, I'll go with a resounding 'no'. At least that way, there's a 50/50 chance that the booking for a World Title isn't chit.
Imagine spending the last two years with Brock holding the only World Championship hostage, waiting for that right moment to drop it to Roman. And we always say "maybe this will get them to elevate the IC Title or the US Title", but it never does. Aside from a rare exception, like Cena's run with the US, those titles just seem to drag down whoever holds it instead.
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Post by Deep Figure Value on Dec 6, 2018 9:33:49 GMT -5
In the absence of Brock Lesnar, I'm a firm "maybe" on this one. It's actually what I do a lot when I'm setting up my Universe in the 2K games. I don't have near the attention span nor the time to maintain some of the wide spread Universes I've seen folks do, so when I'm setting up my main roster save, I'll split the mid-card titles between the two brands, and then have them share the top tier championship. It's something I did to try and better emulate the Attitude Era across two shows when I first came in on WWE '13, and now in my mind's eye, I see it as sort of an adaptation of the NFL, with two conferences (brands), each with their own unique championship, but all vying for the right of claim to the top tier championship (the Lombardi, if you will).
It works within the confines of the game's mechanics and what I aim to get out of it, but how it would translate to real life remains to be explored. I think it would require a further degree of acceptance and complacency with the idea of the Interconintental and United States championships being seen in a greater regard, which would necessitate some tweaks to the booking and pushing process.
Should it happen? I dunno. Could it work? Sure.
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Post by Nivro™ on Dec 6, 2018 12:15:33 GMT -5
Absolutely. It's one reason why I cant take some of these claims by guys like Triple H, Cena, Orton etc being multi time champs. You literally had twice the chance to win a world title. Anyone that won a title during the brand split era should automatically have their reigns cut in half.
I'm ok with NXT and NXT UK having theirs since its 2 separate entities completely but it shouldn't count towards world title reigns.
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Post by PJ on Dec 6, 2018 12:46:21 GMT -5
Absolutely. It's one reason why I cant take some of these claims by guys like Triple H, Cena, Orton etc being multi time champs. You literally had twice the chance to win a world title. Anyone that won a title during the brand split era should automatically have their reigns cut in half. I'm ok with NXT and NXT UK having theirs since its 2 separate entities completely but it shouldn't count towards world title reigns. I agree with you and disagree at the same time. The three examples you used I think unless their reigns overlapped each other meaning if one was the RAW and the other was SD champion they would have still had the title reigns they had. But because there was a World Champion on both brands finding the second champion for the other brand they were taking guys from a watered down pool that otherwise wouldn’t be champion. At least not when they were.
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Post by OTC Waxbender on Dec 6, 2018 13:32:31 GMT -5
I feel like this would be a great idea if WWE could go all out and recognize the other wrestling promotions first.
At least for the sake of continuity in Pro Wrestling otherwise they shouldnt count any NWA, ECW, WCW or any other promotion World Title reigns at all and just do what they normally do. Pretend that the WWE Universe is it's own entity like Marvel or DC and that no wrestling outside has ever happened. Pick a side and stick with it. Sorry Flair, guess you're a 2 time World Champ instead.
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Post by Next Manufactured’s Sweater on Dec 6, 2018 14:00:43 GMT -5
Nah, the two shows would struggle to keep track of it properly and it’d be a mess.
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Post by TKO Propagandist on Dec 6, 2018 14:40:21 GMT -5
Hmmmmmm
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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2018 15:27:51 GMT -5
Hell yeah there should be one champ with him being on both brands! Get rid of the fruit rollup belt!
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Post by theoutlaw1999 on Dec 6, 2018 21:47:23 GMT -5
Not only does having 2 downgrade the World title but it also downgrades the champions. Put it like this when Austin and Bret Hart held the belt they were the champion of the entire company which put them on top of the ladder but guys like Edge and Batista were only the champion of a show which did not have the same impact.
I wish Brock would leave and take the Universal title with him and then both brands can share the World title.
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Post by BSR on Dec 6, 2018 21:49:19 GMT -5
Yes
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Post by K5 on Dec 6, 2018 23:16:53 GMT -5
I think we’re at a changing point in the wrestling business and that the wwe is smart to put multiple eggs in different baskets. when they eventually go back to a sole champion there will have been an epic road to that.
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Post by OTC Waxbender on Dec 7, 2018 1:08:23 GMT -5
Imagine it.. Rollins is Champ, Styles is Champ. Roman Reigns beats them both to become the next Undisputed Unified World Champion of the Universes.
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Post by Deep Figure Value on Dec 7, 2018 13:42:01 GMT -5
I feel like this would be a great idea if WWE could go all out and recognize the other wrestling promotions first. At least for the sake of continuity in Pro Wrestling otherwise they shouldnt count any NWA, ECW, WCW or any other promotion World Title reigns at all and just do what they normally do. Pretend that the WWE Universe is it's own entity like Marvel or DC and that no wrestling outside has ever happened. Pick a side and stick with it. Sorry Flair, guess you're a 2 time World Champ instead. You know, I never really thought about it before, but they are a little choosy over when and how they decide to invoke those NWA/WCW titles in particular, aren't they? Was Jeff Jarrett inducted into the Hall of Fame as "10x World Champion Jeff Jarrett"? Is AJ Styles a two, five, or seven time World Heavyweight Champion? If no bridge is too burned for the WWE, will "2x World Heavyweight Champion Colt Cabana" one day get his shot at the top?
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Post by OTC Waxbender on Dec 7, 2018 20:57:43 GMT -5
I feel like this would be a great idea if WWE could go all out and recognize the other wrestling promotions first. At least for the sake of continuity in Pro Wrestling otherwise they shouldnt count any NWA, ECW, WCW or any other promotion World Title reigns at all and just do what they normally do. Pretend that the WWE Universe is it's own entity like Marvel or DC and that no wrestling outside has ever happened. Pick a side and stick with it. Sorry Flair, guess you're a 2 time World Champ instead. You know, I never really thought about it before, but they are a little choosy over when and how they decide to invoke those NWA/WCW titles in particular, aren't they? Was Jeff Jarrett inducted into the Hall of Fame as "10x World Champion Jeff Jarrett"? Is AJ Styles a two, five, or seven time World Heavyweight Champion? If no bridge is too burned for the WWE, will "2x World Heavyweight Champion Colt Cabana" one day get his shot at the top? There's 2 WCW title wins that I'm aware of and I believe at least one NWA title win they don't count for Flair. I like how they mention "former IWGP Champion same as Brock Lesnar" for Aj Styles in his debut but I dont see him being called a so and so times world champion which is odd not to mention all the other countless superstars who've won that and the NWA Heavyweight title.
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