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Post by Hulkster2001 on Dec 13, 2018 14:51:21 GMT -5
 Undertaker himself has confirmed that Andre had plans for Undertaker but sadly never revealed them. So let’s say these plans include a match at mania, how would this affect Taker’s career? Do you think it would’ve been a epic moment seeing the relatively new Taker defeat Andre and start the legendary streak? |
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Post by keegandimitrijevic01 on Dec 13, 2018 14:56:36 GMT -5
I think so. Andre would've been a HUGE name (no pun intended) for 'Taker to beat
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Post by drifter on Dec 13, 2018 15:01:35 GMT -5
Honestly, I don't think it would have been as big of a boom for Taker as it would seem. Sure it would be the younger star taking on a bona fide, living icon, but by WM 7, Andre was already in awful shape. If I remember right, he barely wrestled in 91, and if he did, it was in some forms of tag matches where he would have a limited amount of work he'd have to do. On paper, it would seem like a great match, but with how broke down Andre's body was becoming by that point, I think the actual match, would have just been awful.
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Post by The Brain on Dec 13, 2018 15:04:37 GMT -5
The match would've been bad since Andre's health by that point was dwindling quickly.
Taker/Andre in the same ring intrigued me though as I recall they announced Andre as a participant in the 91 Rumble but IIRC he got injured in Japan right before so had to back out. You gotta think we would've got some confrontation between the two during that match.
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Post by rowdy1971 on Dec 13, 2018 15:05:47 GMT -5
It would have been a cool visual for about two seconds until the match actually started. Like it was said, Andre was done and just couldn't compete anymore. Although Andre already became a joke when Warrior pinned him in 5 seconds all over the country, I just don't see Andre doing the job for Taker at Mania. Taker, then, was just another gangly big guy with a gimmick that was hokey. I personally think Andre would have gone over so he could just have one last time in the limelight.
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Post by k5 on Dec 14, 2018 1:33:45 GMT -5
it would have been a damn difficult match to book. I see the undertaker essentially choking out Andre constantly through the match only for Andre to finally battle out, and as rowdy1971 said, have one more big moment.
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Post by anddrew on Dec 14, 2018 5:14:00 GMT -5
No way Andre is going up for a Tombstone..
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Post by nibs92 on Dec 14, 2018 7:31:24 GMT -5
It’s hard to know what the plan for the Undertaker was at the start of 91. If it was already in the offing that he would face and beat Hogan for the title at the end of the year then a win over the giant would certainly help establish him. However , despite his size, Taker was still new to the WWF and Andre was too high profile IMO. The win against Snuka served him well enough.
If the match took place, it would be a disaster. Andre was too broken down and Taker to green to cover it.
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Post by Hulkster2001 on Dec 14, 2018 7:59:48 GMT -5
No way Andre is going up for a Tombstone.. Yeah I could see that being a problem, maybe just a regular slam or something? (Did he use the choke slam at all during the early years?) |
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Post by MKSavage on Dec 14, 2018 9:36:13 GMT -5
It would have been a cool visual for about two seconds until the match actually started. Like it was said, Andre was done and just couldn't compete anymore. Although Andre already became a joke when Warrior pinned him in 5 seconds all over the country, I just don't see Andre doing the job for Taker at Mania. Taker, then, was just another gangly big guy with a gimmick that was hokey. I personally think Andre would have gone over so he could just have one last time in the limelight. I don't know, they say Andre wasn't all about himself, he seemed to put people over when it was their time (look at Hogan and Warrior), I think he would have realized that Taker had a future and helped put him over. Plus, I think Vince had big plans for Taker from the start and I don't think he would have let Andre (at that point in his career) change that. It seemed he was saving Taker for Hogan and Warrior. |
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Post by Hulkster2001 on Dec 14, 2018 9:46:33 GMT -5
It would have been a cool visual for about two seconds until the match actually started. Like it was said, Andre was done and just couldn't compete anymore. Although Andre already became a joke when Warrior pinned him in 5 seconds all over the country, I just don't see Andre doing the job for Taker at Mania. Taker, then, was just another gangly big guy with a gimmick that was hokey. I personally think Andre would have gone over so he could just have one last time in the limelight. I don't know, they say Andre wasn't all about himself, he seemed to put people over when it was their time (look at Hogan and Warrior), I think he would have realized that Taker had a future and helped put him over. Plus, I think Vince had big plans for Taker from the start and I don't think he would have let Andre (at that point in his career) change that. It seemed he was saving Taker for Hogan and Warrior. Yeah like I said, Andre had plans for Taker. He told Taker himself that. |
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Post by TheEvilDoink1987 on Dec 14, 2018 16:53:19 GMT -5
No way Andre is going up for a Tombstone.. Yeah I could see that being a problem, maybe just a regular slam or something? (Did he use the choke slam at all during the early years?) Andre could barely even walk at that point let alone take a bump. Him taking that bodyslam from Hogan at WMIII was probably risky with his awful back. |
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Post by The Brain on Dec 14, 2018 17:49:14 GMT -5
Yeah I could see that being a problem, maybe just a regular slam or something? (Did he use the choke slam at all during the early years?) Andre could barely even walk at that point let alone take a bump. Him taking that bodyslam from Hogan at WMIII was probably risky with his awful back. It's truly amazing how he got through the Mania match. His facial expressions throughout the match spoke volumes. |
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Post by anddrew on Dec 14, 2018 23:24:11 GMT -5
No way Andre is going up for a Tombstone.. Yeah I could see that being a problem, maybe just a regular slam or something? (Did he use the choke slam at all during the early years?) Not that I can remember, sadly even a choke slam might've been too much for Andre at that point. It's sad how fast he went down hill, but with him not want to get the surgery, he was still growing and his body already had miles on it. But it makes you appreciate his dedication to the business. |
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Post by Nivro™ on Dec 17, 2018 12:42:02 GMT -5
It would have been awful. Not just cause Andre couldn't move but Taker was a nobody at the time. Having him go over Andre wouldn't have made any sense at all. If Andre was still active my WM8 it would have made more sense as Taker had built some momentum and was also a former champion by then.
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Post by Hulkster2001 on Dec 17, 2018 13:19:08 GMT -5
Having him go over Andre wouldn't have made any sense at all. If Andre was still active my WM8 it would have made more sense as Taker had built some momentum and was also a former champion by then. Why not? If you’re going to build someone why not have them beat a big name? Plus he won the damn title at Survivor Series of the same damn year so Vince clearly had plans for Taker. And like I said before Andre himself had plans for Taker. |
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Post by Nivro™ on Dec 17, 2018 19:38:25 GMT -5
Having him go over Andre wouldn't have made any sense at all. If Andre was still active my WM8 it would have made more sense as Taker had built some momentum and was also a former champion by then. Why not? If you’re going to build someone why not have them beat a big name? Plus he won the damn title at Survivor Series of the same damn year so Vince clearly had plans for Taker. And like I said before Andre himself had plans for Taker.I dont believe Vince had plans for Taker at all. He used him as a transitional champion to get the title off Hogan to Flair without giving away the big match of Hogan-Flair. Outside of his match with Hogan, most of Takers early career was mid/upper mid card feuds. Taker had a little momentum going into wm8 because he had just come off a title match with Hogan and was being booked in matches with guys like Flair, Hulk and Sid. Before WM7 he was looked at no more then just a Warlord type character as his matches were well below the top of the card. |
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