juniordaddyo
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Post by juniordaddyo on Jan 7, 2019 5:56:57 GMT -5
Has anyone contributed towards the WWF Hasbro Book that has been doing the rounds for the past year or so?
It was originally set up with Kickstarter asking for donations, so I am interested to know if anyone in this forum has donated money or pictures?
Also is the author in this group?
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Post by @Chair.Shot on Jan 8, 2019 23:19:30 GMT -5
Plenty of people. It is a mess. They started out doing it by not getting permission for photos and basically stealing images and information from others. There were some heated discussions here if I recall...basically the guy doing it got trashed on here. He also has heat on Facebook, Instagram, and Twitter as well. Someone once even broke down how the cost of publishing will exceed the asking price.
Nowadays he asks to be on podcasts, posts things that have nothing to do with the book, sets goals but not deadlines, and keeps adding things to put into the book. He won’t respond when asked publicly about when it will be released.
All that said, I was a contributor and am cautiously optimistic that some day I will see a finished product.
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Post by WFR on Jan 9, 2019 14:18:06 GMT -5
I’m right here? I appreciate your comments above but not much of it is factually correct. There was a misunderstanding with Jimmy that was cleared up. There’s a small group who don’t like the project but I can’t do anything about that. All promo images are with permission from the owners at the time. http://instagram.com/p/BsUBGtqH_sc More info on Instagram and Twitter... not sure where questions are being dodged. There’s a whole locked topic on here. I’ve not posted much here because there wasn’t much interest. I bought the Doink and Lex topic up too if you recall.
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Post by kev85hasbro on Jan 9, 2019 14:40:10 GMT -5
I’m right here? I appreciate your comments above but not much of it is factually correct. There was a misunderstanding with Jimmy that was cleared up. There’s a small group who don’t like the project but I can’t do anything about that. All promo images are with permission from the owners at the time. http://instagr.am/p/BsUBGtqH_sc More info on Instagram and Twitter... not sure where questions are being dodged. There’s a whole locked topic on here. I’ve not posted much here because there wasn’t much interest. I bought the Doink and Lex topic up too if you recall. Hi I own both original sketches of Luke and butch bushwhackers. Please can you remove these and any type of promotions concerning them please. Thank you.
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Post by undertaker131 on Jan 9, 2019 19:00:00 GMT -5
any idea who owns the original undertaker or bret hart hasbro Sketches? been after those 2 for a while.
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Post by @Chair.Shot on Jan 10, 2019 3:10:28 GMT -5
I’m right here? I appreciate your comments above but not much of it is factually correct. There was a misunderstanding with Jimmy that was cleared up. There’s a small group who don’t like the project but I can’t do anything about that. All promo images are with permission from the owners at the time. More info on Instagram and Twitter... not sure where questions are being dodged. There’s a whole locked topic on here. I’ve not posted much here because there wasn’t much interest. I bought the Doink and Lex topic up too if you recall. Please take the comments below as civil discussion and observations from someone who was (and still is) excited by this project. There are frustrations from the backer’s end but that doesn’t mean there is any ill will towards you (unless this never sees the light of day). I think I covered it pretty well but there might be a few details that were off. -It is a mess because you have changed so much from what was originally pitched to backers. There is no realistic concept of when this will be released. -I saw a number of people accusing you and using photos without permission. I’m not imagining it. Not sure who Jimmy is but if it were even1 person, they did it with different names using different accounts here and on social media. Maybe you are right and they are wrong but I seem to recall a redaction on your part stating that you would only use your own photos or ones with permission. -Maybe ask the forum mod, but it seems like there was a thread on here from a year or so ago where there had been more accusations of image theft and the like. If I am misremembering that then I will withdraw that part of the statement. -A number of times, people have asked when the book is coming out. That is the question that was being dodged. You released a statement recently and brushed aside the issue. Targets set? Great, like what? No deadlines...guess you don’t want to pressure yourself too much. Working at the speed of others? Sounds vague. I have an idea of what you are talking about but rather than feed you options, please enlighten us with firmer specifics of what “working at the speed of others” means. -I definitely did not make up someone breaking down the cost of manufacturing the book. Sure I fancy myself creative but I’m not schizophrenic. -You do post things that have nothing to do with the book, just not here. It’s bad usage of the Hasbro book social media accounts in my opinion. That’s neither here nor there but it isn’t an update about the book and therefore I don’t care. -Not sure how or why the Lex and Doink thing has anything to do with what anyone said but ok?
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Post by mcfclee on Jan 10, 2019 9:16:07 GMT -5
I’m really interested in hearing more about the book, from both sides too actually. I couldn’t see myself putting money down with no real date or promise it will happen, but it’s definitely something I’d buy if it were released.
I really hope the discussion can be both honest and civil in here and it doesn’t get locked. Just my two cents from the outside.
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Post by juniordaddyo on Jan 11, 2019 8:46:06 GMT -5
I’m really interested in hearing more about the book, from both sides too actually. I couldn’t see myself putting money down with no real date or promise it will happen, but it’s definitely something I’d buy if it were released. I really hope the discussion can be both honest and civil in here and it doesn’t get locked. Just my two cents from the outside. This is my sentiments exactly. I really want this to be genuine as very interested in the book, but with the lack of transparency, honesty and information, it prevents me from putting my own money into it at an infancy stage. Worst still, something that was first spoke about in 2017 I believe and then finally gathered pace in October 2018! The issue is, the Hasbro community is huge, so someone must know who is involved, plus if they had been more open and honest, potentially double or triple the amount of people may be interested!
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Post by WFR on Jan 11, 2019 19:38:47 GMT -5
I’m really interested in hearing more about the book, from both sides too actually. I couldn’t see myself putting money down with no real date or promise it will happen, but it’s definitely something I’d buy if it were released. I really hope the discussion can be both honest and civil in here and it doesn’t get locked. Just my two cents from the outside. This is my sentiments exactly. I really want this to be genuine as very interested in the book, but with the lack of transparency, honesty and information, it prevents me from putting my own money into it at an infancy stage. Worst still, something that was first spoke about in 2017 I believe and then finally gathered pace in October 2018! The issue is, the Hasbro community is huge, so someone must know who is involved, plus if they had been more open and honest, potentially double or triple the amount of people may be interested! I don’t understand your points. Lack of transparency and honesty about what? I clearly set out what the project was about and it’s progressed from there. I’m not getting dragged into another slanging fest on the forum. The project got backed which is awesome and had very strong support and pre-orders since.
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Post by WFR on Jan 11, 2019 20:08:09 GMT -5
I’m right here? I appreciate your comments above but not much of it is factually correct. There was a misunderstanding with Jimmy that was cleared up. There’s a small group who don’t like the project but I can’t do anything about that. All promo images are with permission from the owners at the time. More info on Instagram and Twitter... not sure where questions are being dodged. There’s a whole locked topic on here. I’ve not posted much here because there wasn’t much interest. I bought the Doink and Lex topic up too if you recall. Please take the comments below as civil discussion and observations from someone who was (and still is) excited by this project. There are frustrations from the backer’s end but that doesn’t mean there is any ill will towards you (unless this never sees the light of day). I think I covered it pretty well but there might be a few details that were off. -It is a mess because you have changed so much from what was originally pitched to backers. There is no realistic concept of when this will be released. -I saw a number of people accusing you and using photos without permission. I’m not imagining it. Not sure who Jimmy is but if it were even1 person, they did it with different names using different accounts here and on social media. Maybe you are right and they are wrong but I seem to recall a redaction on your part stating that you would only use your own photos or ones with permission. -Maybe ask the forum mod, but it seems like there was a thread on here from a year or so ago where there had been more accusations of image theft and the like. If I am misremembering that then I will withdraw that part of the statement. -A number of times, people have asked when the book is coming out. That is the question that was being dodged. You released a statement recently and brushed aside the issue. Targets set? Great, like what? No deadlines...guess you don’t want to pressure yourself too much. Working at the speed of others? Sounds vague. I have an idea of what you are talking about but rather than feed you options, please enlighten us with firmer specifics of what “working at the speed of others” means. -I definitely did not make up someone breaking down the cost of manufacturing the book. Sure I fancy myself creative but I’m not schizophrenic. -You do post things that have nothing to do with the book, just not here. It’s bad usage of the Hasbro book social media accounts in my opinion. That’s neither here nor there but it isn’t an update about the book and therefore I don’t care. -Not sure how or why the Lex and Doink thing has anything to do with what anyone said but ok? There’s no mess at all - it’s been a very well run project. It’s developed along the way but the core foundations are still there. Photos supplies from collections are being used. Right at the very start there was some confusion with a collector and he pulled his support from the project. This was cleared up after the drama and images reinstated. A large number of collectors have been verify keen to have their images included in the book so there are no shortage of images. There’s even images from collectors who have never posted on forums like this. We’ve had all the individual images photographed they look awesome. I’ve released plenty of page samples. As far as I’m aware every enquiry on kickstarter, Twitter, Instagram and email are up to date. If you could point me to any unanswered questions on these platforms that would be great as it’s possible some could be missed. You’re right about pressure. A very high percentage are more than happy with the progress and information released so far. Some aren’t and it’s usually people who haven’t backed the project. I want it to be right and so does everyone involved. Working at the speed of others - I have written all the copy with the input of Nick and Chad. From a writing standpoint that is finished. Our designer, Adam, lives in New Zealand and Scott in Australia. They both have multipal projects and this is one of them. They’re doing amazing work so at the moment we’re working at their pace. Since the chat here I’ve started to release smaller updates that I didn’t previously think would be of interest to anyone such as copy proof on figure pages, colour changes, page flow and other design changes. This information has gone down well so thank you for the suggestions. Someone posted their breakdown of a book project they did which was a story I believe? Plenty of people pointed out these are totally different projects so it wasn’t a relevant comparission. The accounts are there to interact not just updates. If I find something interesting, cool, related or important I’ll post about it. Engagement keeps things fresh and in peoples minds. My point on Doink and Lex was that new things are popping up all the time and need including. Shawn Punch has popped up. It’s in China. Other items too. A French collector also has had contact with the person in China and verified its a real item. I’d love to talk about this here but it just decens into chaos as a lot of people are fiercely loyal to people who have brought out guides or other die hard experts. They project was never mainly targeted at die bards as you all know all the information already and seen most of the rare items. You’ll know all about the 4 Hasbromen who made the figures and the guys with the crazy marketing ideas. I’m more than happy to answer more questions on the social platforms or email 👍
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Post by snowjorden on Jan 11, 2019 20:15:00 GMT -5
Consider me new to this, because well, I am.
Are there pics of the physical book itself, yet? Is progress not that far?
Lastly, someone said they didn't want their Bushwhacker drawings in the book earlier, uh.. is this an issue you're having with putting this together?
Why oh why would people not want to show off their stuff? We're a freaking Hasbro family.
It's like how Zack always brings up things about his prototypes he's never showed or talked about? Uh.. c'mon man. Tell us about our beloved line of figures.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2019 20:29:04 GMT -5
I remember seeing Zack Ryder tweeting something about making sure he is not being mentioned anymore abut this like last year or even longer than that. He said otherwise he'd let out some info on him/project. What was that all about?
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Post by casanova on Jan 12, 2019 15:12:34 GMT -5
Consider me new to this, because well, I am. Are there pics of the physical book itself, yet? Is progress not that far? Lastly, someone said they didn't want their Bushwhacker drawings in the book earlier, uh.. is this an issue you're having with putting this together? Why oh why would people not want to show off their stuff? We're a freaking Hasbro family. It's like how Zack always brings up things about his prototypes he's never showed or talked about? Uh.. c'mon man. Tell us about our beloved line of figures. Pretty easy to answer: people usually temd to be negative on the internet. Remember Tugboat or Brutus? People were calling the customs amd it (almost) resulted in a shtstorm. Sometimes you get more enjoyment out of stuff by nor showing them and discuss their authenticity. In the end, you buy collectibles for yourself and not for a community or an instagram story. Nevertheless big high five to everyone who share his treasures with the community, but I can also understand anybody else. Whats the story about HBK proto?
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Post by casanova on Jan 12, 2019 15:20:26 GMT -5
WFROh it is a mess. I am a backer and the lack of updates via the kickstarter mail system is frustrating. Honestly if I pledge at KS I expect to be part of the production process. For example the book „toys that time forgot“ had almost 50 updates in the process. Each and every one was a great read on its own. I don’t expect it to be as professional as it was with said book, but an update like „update comming shortly“ doesn’t count. Also I don’t care about instagram or fb. I have pledged on KS and expect the updste to be on that channel. This being said, I hope the book will be good and will not feature any unauthorized pictures. If this is the case, all the negativity will come to an end as soon as the book is finally released.
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Post by disorder on Jan 13, 2019 18:19:56 GMT -5
Pretty sure everyone was pissed, because pictures were being jacked off this board and were not authorized for use by the owners. A lot of one of a kind sketches and even photos of prototypes.
Which is kind of shitty
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Post by VintageFigs1 on Jan 13, 2019 20:20:34 GMT -5
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Post by @Chair.Shot on Jan 13, 2019 20:47:30 GMT -5
I don’t think that pulling out at this point is the correct answer. If that happens, it will only lead to more issues and backers will probably get screwed over more than you alone.
However, if I were Matt, I would treat this as a very public final warning. This is grounds for a public apology on their part and they need to display proof within the next few days that each and every one of your photos/info is being credited.
Maybe do us backers/your listeners a favor on this one.
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Post by VintageFigs1 on Jan 13, 2019 21:28:21 GMT -5
I don’t think that pulling out at this point is the correct answer. If that happens, it will only lead to more issues and backers will probably get screwed over more than you alone. However, if I were Matt, I would treat this as a very public final warning. This is grounds for a public apology on their part and they need to display proof within the next few days that each and every one of your photos/info is being credited. Maybe do us backers/your listeners a favor on this one. I may be confused by your response or you may be confused but... I was never officially attached to this project. I didn’t organize it. I didn’t promote it. All I did was allow my photos to be involved. The warning was already given about the credit. I am out. I feel sorry for all who backed. This seems like a huge scam.
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Post by @Chair.Shot on Jan 13, 2019 21:40:00 GMT -5
I don’t think that pulling out at this point is the correct answer. If that happens, it will only lead to more issues and backers will probably get screwed over more than you alone. However, if I were Matt, I would treat this as a very public final warning. This is grounds for a public apology on their part and they need to display proof within the next few days that each and every one of your photos/info is being credited. Maybe do us backers/your listeners a favor on this one. I may be confused by your response or you may be confused but... I was never officially attached to this project. I didn’t organize it. I didn’t promote it. All I did was allow my photos to be involved. The warning was already given about the credit. I am out. I feel sorry for all who backed. This seems like a huge scam. I was even contacted by the “writer” of this “book” who claims he was duped by Kevin. He also called it a scam. I think you are confused. The part you played is clear in that you were just helping out with generously providing photos and information. What wasn’t clear or public were any conversations or DMs you had with the makers of this book. You have a lot to be upset or frustrated about. At times, I too have thought this might be a scam. However, this would have to be extremely elaborate for such little profit. It isn’t out of the realm of possibility, but my fear is that if they are legit (but unprofessional/disorganized), then we all lose. If your suspicions are correct, then well, a number of us will have already lost out and a public smear campaign should commence. Maybe it would be helpful if you and others provided more information or proof as to why you believe this is a scam.
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Post by Nivro™ on Jan 14, 2019 0:42:37 GMT -5
This dude is gonna use pics with no credit and get hit with so many lawsuits....simply over pics of little plastic men.
This is more interesting then anything WWE has done on RAW
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