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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2019 23:02:10 GMT -5
What do you guys mean by striking while the iron is hot? Kofi had one good week with an impressive showing. One week! You think they should shift gears and go all in on Kofi based on one week of buzz? Some of y’all would run your feds into the ground. I like Kofi, but give it time and build him up with a good story arc so when he eventually wins it means something. Exactly! It's not like there is this big Kofi movement going on. No one before last week wanted him in this or any title match. Now all of the sudden you were cheated like it was daniel bryan getting buried all over again
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Post by aggressiveperfector on Feb 17, 2019 23:03:17 GMT -5
I imagine there would have been a Seth Rollins match but he’s injured at the moment if I recall correctly. Could have had Rollins/Drew.
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Post by kennyw86v2 on Feb 17, 2019 23:03:40 GMT -5
The entire crowd was cheering for him. Pretty sure that outweighs your opinion. This Daniel Bryan heel run has been a flop. He's not doing good, that's not why we hate it. He's boring, he's lame, and he comes off as the type of guy that has had his ass kicked by every one of us here. Maybe kofi isn't a long term solution, but he's better than this crap. And he may be a great main eventer, you don't know until you try. Entire crowds cheer for a lot of guys. Should all of those guys be champ? You are in the minority when it comes to Bryan. You don’t go all in on someone based on one week of crowd investement. If the crowd is still hot for Kofi going into Mania, then that’s something they should consider doing. But right now? No, it’s not the time. You never know, maybe it’s Kofi who gets a shot at Bryan at Mania. Because a lot of people still try to see Daniel Bryan of 5 years ago.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2019 23:05:21 GMT -5
You guys are ridiculous to think Kofi generates enough to have a title run. If he wasn't in the new day, he would be knocking at his friend Cody's door for an AEW contract cause he was tired of being on main event with mojo rawley The entire crowd was cheering for him. Pretty sure that outweighs your opinion. This Daniel Bryan heel run has been a flop. He's not doing good, that's not why we hate it. He's boring, he's lame, and he comes off as the type of guy that has had his ass kicked by every one of us here. Maybe kofi isn't a long term solution, but he's better than this crap. And he may be a great main eventer, you don't know until you try. hahaha I'm pretty sure a crowd on one night doesn't. And as far as your opinion on Bryan as champ, it's just that. Your opinion. I think he is doing great. Too many fans are butt hurt cause they want to cheer him and chant yes. This gimmick is perfect for a heel. Makes you hate him and want to see an underdog like Kofi win. You have just played right into their creative hands haha
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Post by underoos on Feb 17, 2019 23:05:35 GMT -5
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Post by kennyw86v2 on Feb 17, 2019 23:07:30 GMT -5
The entire crowd was cheering for him. Pretty sure that outweighs your opinion. This Daniel Bryan heel run has been a flop. He's not doing good, that's not why we hate it. He's boring, he's lame, and he comes off as the type of guy that has had his ass kicked by every one of us here. Maybe kofi isn't a long term solution, but he's better than this crap. And he may be a great main eventer, you don't know until you try. hahaha I'm pretty sure a crowd on one night doesn't. And as far as your opinion on Bryan as champ, it's just that. Your opinion. I think he is doing great. Too many fans are butt hurt cause they want to cheer him and chant yes. This gimmick is perfect for a heel. Makes you hate him and want to see an underdog like Kofi win. You have just played right into their creative hands haha A little bitch yelling at you for eating meat is NOT a great gimmick for anything other than a comedy act
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Post by #DI-WHY? on Feb 17, 2019 23:09:10 GMT -5
What do you guys mean by striking while the iron is hot? Kofi had one good week with an impressive showing. One week! You think they should shift gears and go all in on Kofi based on one week of buzz? Some of y’all would run your feds into the ground. I like Kofi, but give it time and build him up with a good story arc so when he eventually wins it means something. Exactly! It's not like there is this big Kofi movement going on. Yeah true, it's not like Kofi is #1 trending on Twitter, had damn near every wrestler in the back tweet @ him encouraging and congratulating him, and had the entire arena on their feet.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2019 23:09:13 GMT -5
hahaha I'm pretty sure a crowd on one night doesn't. And as far as your opinion on Bryan as champ, it's just that. Your opinion. I think he is doing great. Too many fans are butt hurt cause they want to cheer him and chant yes. This gimmick is perfect for a heel. Makes you hate him and want to see an underdog like Kofi win. You have just played right into their creative hands haha A little bitch yelling at you for eating meat is NOT a great gimmick for anything other than a comedy act BUT IT IS!!! It got you to hate him and call him a little bitch! You are proving my point!
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Post by hbkowns on Feb 17, 2019 23:09:48 GMT -5
Man let people enjoy Kofi if they want. This is the closest he’s been to the WWE title, and people cared. It wasn’t a given he’d get the reaction and buzz he did tonight. He earned that with his career thus far, it’s not just a one week thing. And people want to act like they didn’t care before last week, and the fact is they didn’t. Because he’d never been given this opportunity before. And now that he was given it, people could’ve easily said , no thanks. But instead they said, yes we like it, and actually we love it and want more. Tough pill for some of you to swallow. Dude I’m happy for Kofi! I hope down the line this year he gets a title run! I’m not hating on people for wanting Kofi to be champ. But to say that WWE is stupid for not putting the title on him right now at this second is crazy. They have something lined up, it’s mania season. They’re gonna come back to Kofi after this, no doubt. Or maybe Kofi gets the shot at Mania! Who knows!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2019 23:10:34 GMT -5
Exactly! It's not like there is this big Kofi movement going on. Yeah true, it's not like Kofi is #1 trending on Twitter, had damn near every wrestler in the back tweet @ him encouraging and congratulating him, and had the entire arena on their feet. oh god. for 1 match and all the sudden he is a main eventer that everyone wants. I give up. unbelieveable that you guys can't see this for what it is and it worked perfectly. I'm glad you aren't on the creative.
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Post by kennyw86v2 on Feb 17, 2019 23:12:25 GMT -5
A little bitch yelling at you for eating meat is NOT a great gimmick for anything other than a comedy act BUT IT IS!!! It got you to hate him and call him a little bitch! You are proving my point! You're mistaking heel heat with literal hatred. I'm pro heel. I love lesnars gimmick. I liked heel rock, scsa, punk, orton, etc. This pansy thing he has going on is awful. X-pac heat would be an improvement from how I feel about this guy right now
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2019 23:17:59 GMT -5
i dont understand this company. i truly dont. its ing 10:20 (east coast)....almost every PPV has been ending AFTER 11 for the last couple years and most recently they've been going until 11:30 11:45... but all of a sudden they're like "nah we'll just close out early" this company is the most inconsistent head scratching clumsy thing i've ever seen Raw is too long, ppv was too short, I wish fans would make up their minds!!! lol
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Post by weaseltv on Feb 17, 2019 23:18:08 GMT -5
uh...Ali would have been eliminated prob 2nd or 3rd. like, they were pushing him a little bit but he was not going to be the last guy in the chamber vs Bryan....probably just would have been either Orton or AJ if Kofi hadn't gotten this little push the last couple weeks I actually think they chose Kofi because of his wrestling style in that he fit the match. In this type of match I'm sure they planned out a bit more than in a 2 person match. With that being the case, they probably already had the match laid out and with how long Kofi's been at it, he could not only learn it quickly, the only real change needed would be to change out Ali's moves with kofi's moves and keep everything else the same. I mean, you wouldn't have seen Shinsuke jump on the cage to come after Bryan when he was sitting. You also wouldn't have seen him trying to frog splash Bryan at the end of the match, but you could easily picture Ali doing both.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2019 23:18:22 GMT -5
BUT IT IS!!! It got you to hate him and call him a little bitch! You are proving my point! You're mistaking heel heat with literal hatred. I'm pro heel. I love lesnars gimmick. I liked heel rock, scsa, punk, orton, etc. This pansy thing he has going on is awful. X-pac heat would be an improvement from how I feel about this guy right now I'm not mistaking anything with anything
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2019 23:19:05 GMT -5
uh...Ali would have been eliminated prob 2nd or 3rd. like, they were pushing him a little bit but he was not going to be the last guy in the chamber vs Bryan....probably just would have been either Orton or AJ if Kofi hadn't gotten this little push the last couple weeks I actually think they chose Kofi because of his wrestling style in that he fit the match. In this type of match I'm sure they planned out a bit more than in a 2 person match. With that being the case, they probably already had the match laid out and with how long Kofi's been at it, he could not only learn it quickly, the only real change needed would be to change out Ali's moves with kofi's moves and keep everything else the same. I mean, you wouldn't have seen Shinsuke jump on the cage to come after Bryan when he was sitting. You also wouldn't have seen him trying to frog splash Bryan at the end of the match, but you could easily picture Ali doing both. very good point.
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Post by The Kevstaaa on Feb 17, 2019 23:21:01 GMT -5
WWE Elimination Chamber February 17th, 2019 | Toyota Center in Houston, Texas
WWE Cruiserweight Championship: Buddy Murphy [c] vs. Akira Tozawa Admittedly, I wasn’t too thrilled with Tozawa getting this title shot. He’s just never been a guy who stood out to me. However, he faced Buddy Murphy and Murphy ranks among the best wrestlers in the world right now. His role as the juggernaut was on display in this one. He played the Goliath of sorts and it was a clear problem for Tozawa. The challenger fought hard with plenty of hope spots. Their counters were top notch and that arguably had the spot of the night when Murphy hoisted Tozawa up only to get hit with a super rana. Of course, Murphy retained in 13:18 in a banger. [***¾]
WWE Women's Tag Team Championship Elimination Chamber: The Boss-n-Hug Connection (Bayley and Sasha Banks) vs. Fabulous Glow (Carmella and Naomi) vs. Fire & Desire (Mandy Rose and Sonya Deville) vs. The Iiconics (Billie Kay and Peyton Royce) vs. The Riott Squad (Liv Morgan and Sarah Logan) vs. Samoan Slaughterhouse (Nia Jax and Tamina) Onto the main show for this historic match. Talk about properly booking and laying something out. Sasha Banks and Bayley started against Mandy Rose and Sonya Deville. There was no better way to set it up. They had Chamber experience and it allowed for callbacks. Pretty much everyone was booked well. Nia and Tamina got to play powerhouses. Nia taking the bump into the pod was great. The Iiconics showed why their character work is so incredible. The Riott Squad got to shine thanks to two huge spots from the impressive Liv Morgan. Even Carmella and Naomi got a fun spurt before getting eliminated. It made sense for them to go out first because A) they’re the least established team, B) the crowd wasn’t positive due to the week they’ve had, and C) it gave the Iiconics an awesome elimination. The finishing stretch came down to the two teams who started it all. Again, a good decision. We got the awesome moment where Sasha helped Bayley onto a pod instead of kicking her off like she did last year. That’s the kind of character growth related callback that I love. WWE doesn’t get praised enough for it. With a bad shoulder, Sasha struggled to apply the Bank Statement. She used her leg instead, which made the move look way better than it usually does, and they won the titles in 32:55. One of the better Chamber matches I can ever recall. Other than a few sloppy moments, they nailed mostly everything else. Good action, great storytelling, and smart booking. [****¼]
WWE Smackdown Tag Team Championship: The Miz and Shane McMahon [c] vs. The Usos Miz and Maryse are having baby number two. Miz is God and there’s no use trying to deny it at this point. Anyway, this told a fine story. Miz and Shane have been a more consistent duo, so their chemistry and teamwork has improved. It gave them the upper hand on an Usos team that probably underestimated them. The Usos turned things around and isolated Miz. Shane’s hot tag got a lesser reception than they probably hoped for. They continued the trend of him hitting a Coast to Coast, only to fail on the second attempt. Shane and Jey were put out by the Leap of Faith Elbow. That left Jimmy and Miz to go at it, with Jimmy winning a fine little exchange via crucifix pin in 13:50. Good tag formula with some cool spots and it kept building the angle. I dig it. [***¼]
WWE Intercontinental Championship: Bobby Lashley [c] and Lio Rush vs. Finn Balor It seems like the only reason Lio Rush was in here was to eat a pin. The idea behind this match was that Lashley and Lio found a way to make key tags when they needed to. Balor would get an advantage and they’d tag to keep someone fresh in and cut off his momentum. Balor fought back because he’s a good smiley boy. Lio got too cocky and it cost him as Balor eventually beat him with the Coup de Grace to win the title in 9:29. I love Finn as IC Champion but don’t like the handicap match stuff. It’s never an idea I like for a title. The match itself was fine, but nothing I couldn’t get on an episode of Raw. [**½]
After the match, Lashley beat up Lio Rush. I’m assuming it ends their partnership, which is a shame because Lio is the only thing that has ever made Lashley even remotely interesting.
Charlotte came out to cut one of her usual bad promos. It basically recapped a lot of the recent angle that put Charlotte into the WrestleMania match against Ronda Rousey. She pointed to the WrestleMania sign.
WWE Raw Women's Championship: Ronda Rousey [c] vs. Ruby Riott Ronda dressed as Sonya Blade from the new Mortal Kombat game. This was a total squash, as Ronda dominated from the start and won with the armbar in 1:42. Aww, poor Ruby. [NR]
Charlotte entered the ring for a staredown with Ronda Rousey. The champ looked off into the distance at the sight of Becky Lynch on crutches. She struggled into the ring as Charlotte looked at her as if she was pathetic. Becky then took her crutch and beat the crapout of Charlotte. It was glorious. And with “she’s the man” chants. Ronda took the other crutch and went after Charlotte, only for Becky to hit her from behind. Becky was arrested to a huge pop and she had a wide grin. Ronda was bleeding from the head.
No Disqualifications Match: Baron Corbin vs. Braun Strowman Why is this feud still a thing? Braun Strowman is no longer interesting and just groan inducing. Corbin looks like he should be managing an Applebee’s. Considering it came after the Becky segment and before the main event, this was the cool down death spot. However, at 10:20, it went too long for that. Corbin was outmatched until he got help from Bobby Lashley and Drew McIntyre. Together, they powerbombed Braun off steel steps and through a table, giving Corbin the win. I didn’t care and I don’t think anyone else did. [½*]
Lacey Evans came out, walked down the ramp, turned around, and left. Okay.
WWE Championship Elimination Chamber: Daniel Bryan [c] vs. AJ Styles vs. Jeff Hardy vs. Kofi Kingston vs. Randy Orton vs. Samoa Joe Like all the best Chamber matches, this one utilized everyone in a cool way. Though he was eliminated first, Samoa Joe got a chance to shine. He’s great in small bursts, so I felt that worked. Jeff Hardy delivered one of the biggest spots of the night with a fantastic Swanton Bomb off a pod onto AJ, who was laid across the top rope. AJ Styles took offense from basically everyone and made sure they all looked good. Randy Orton played the vicious role he’s excelled in lately. The RKO he used to eliminate Styles was great and more of a Diamond Cutter, which I appreciated. Getting to see Kofi Kingston eliminate Orton as revenge for 2009 was satisfying. At that point, this was a great Chamber. Then, Daniel Bryan went against Kofi Kingston and it turned into something special. This wasn’t Santino Marella getting a few close calls against Bryan in 2012. This was Kingston reminding the world that he’s one of the best to ever do this. His desperation was clear and the hope spots were so well done without ever going overboard. When he kicked out of the Busaiku Knee, I lost my mind. The crowd was MOLTEN hot for Kofi. Don’t let anyone tell you differently because they’re wrong. Kofi came close so many times, but made a crucial mistake when he tried a splash off the Chamber. From there, Bryan used the LeBelle Lock to retain in 36:51. An incredible match that rivals the best Chambers ever. Phenomenal action, a hot crowd, and a stellar performance from Kingston and Bryan. Outstanding. [****½]
Overall: 8/10. That’s three straight WWE Pay-Per-Views that have BANGED. The two Chamber matches rank in my top 5 ever (in no order it’s these two, 2002, 2017, and 2005). That would be enough to make this a recommended show. Throw in a very good Cruiserweight Title match, hella fun Smackdown Tag Title match, Finn Balor winning the IC Title, and a great Becky Lynch segment to top it all off. That Corbin/Strowman stuff dragged, but skip it and enjoy the rest.
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Post by kennyw86v2 on Feb 17, 2019 23:23:54 GMT -5
You're mistaking heel heat with literal hatred. I'm pro heel. I love lesnars gimmick. I liked heel rock, scsa, punk, orton, etc. This pansy thing he has going on is awful. X-pac heat would be an improvement from how I feel about this guy right now I'm not mistaking anything with anything If you think I dislike Bryan because he's doing so good, you are. You don't get to tell me I'm wrong about how I feel about him or his gimmick. Not gonna continue this pointless debate. Enjoy eating every crap thing Vince feeds you and pretending it's good.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2019 23:34:05 GMT -5
I'm not mistaking anything with anything If you think I dislike Bryan because he's doing so good, you are. You don't get to tell me I'm wrong about how I feel about him or his gimmick. Not gonna continue this pointless debate. Enjoy eating every crap thing Vince feeds you and pretending it's good. I knew there was a reason I already had you blocked. I'm not pretending anything. If you hate whats going on, don't keep watching. Please. I'm sick of hearing you piss and moan. Quit being a whiner
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Post by RuthlessFigs on Feb 17, 2019 23:34:50 GMT -5
The Mark Henry special after EC was pretty damn good.
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Post by The Kevstaaa on Feb 18, 2019 0:15:38 GMT -5
I did the review in a bit of a rush to get it up before the night ended and I totally forgot that Bryan won with the Knee and not the LeBelle Lock. I even remember commenting that he shouldn't have been able to break the hold with the ropes. My mistake.
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