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Post by theoutlaw1999 on Feb 18, 2019 16:11:53 GMT -5
OK at present there are 4 World titles and quite frankly that is beyond an overkill. There should be one mens World title and one women's and that would put the champions on top of the entire company instead of being a show champion which simply doesn't have the same feel.
Now lets look at the current mens World titles. If you exclude Roman's short reign you could say that Raw hasn't had a top champion in 2 years while over on Smackdown when we have constantly seen the same repetitive matches.
When AJ was champion he had constant rematches with KO, Nakamura and Joe and that hurt them when they lost multiple times. But if the title hadn't been restricted to Smackdown we could've seen AJ challenge Raw stars which would give us fresh matches and feuds.
Now lets move on to the Women's titles. At present the entire company is all about the Raw women's title while The Smackdown one is basically non existent and Asuka hasn't appeared in weeks so is there really any need for two women's belts?
The mens tag titles also needs to be unified because one could easily accommodate both Raw and Smackdown teams.
And this finally leaves us with the mid card belts. Admittedly the IC has have pretty good booking recently but the US one has been a joke. Nakamura rarely appeared and Truth hasn't been seen in 2 weeks so if Road Dogg can't find time for the US title on Smackdown the champion could easily have feuds on Raw.
With the women's tag titles being cross branded I honestly feel that this should be the beginning for all the titles.
I would unify the men's and women's World titles and the men's tag titles and maybe even introduce a mid card title for the women.
Champions in the WWE should feel super important and sadly being a show champion doesn't have the same effect as being a main WWE champion.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2019 16:23:00 GMT -5
You can't as long as there is a roster split.
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Post by FLUX on Feb 18, 2019 16:27:42 GMT -5
It won't happen. Fox has said in no uncertain terms that the roster split stays and that Smackdown has its own stars. And if they gave you a billion dollars, you'd be a  ing idiot to not listen to their demands. |
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Post by punksnotdead on Feb 18, 2019 16:39:52 GMT -5
Disagree. The house show business supports two individual rosters and two sets of titles that the live audience can experience. The rosters are huge. Belts are props to build stories around, especially in a time where WWE doesn't tell very good stories away from them. As the women's roster continues to grow, I fully expect a second set of women's tag titles, as well.
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Post by rowdy1971 on Feb 18, 2019 16:46:36 GMT -5
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Post by McBlake on Feb 18, 2019 16:47:36 GMT -5
People think these talented NXT call ups are getting lost in the shuffle now? Imagine how bad it would be if the roster was twice the size?
I see no issues with the brand split. It gives guys a chance to shine that otherwise wouldn't have been given the opportunity. Roster is big enough to sustain it. I just wish they'd interact a bit more storyline wise instead of "because its Survivor Series soon." I used to love interpromotional matches in the old brand split. They had a real big fight feel to them.
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Post by kennyw86v2 on Feb 18, 2019 16:59:51 GMT -5
Leave it how it is. It works.
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Post by theoutlaw1999 on Feb 18, 2019 17:35:49 GMT -5
Disagree. The house show business supports two individual rosters and two sets of titles that the live audience can experience. The rosters are huge. Belts are props to build stories around, especially in a time where WWE doesn't tell very good stories away from them. As the women's roster continues to grow, I fully expect a second set of women's tag titles, as well. I've always found title defences at house shows stupid because you always know who will win the match. Also I don't expect their to be another set of women's tag titles. There are more chances of a women only show. |
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Post by theoutlaw1999 on Feb 18, 2019 17:40:16 GMT -5
People think these talented NXT call ups are getting lost in the shuffle now? Imagine how bad it would be if the roster was twice the size? I see no issues with the brand split. It gives guys a chance to shine that otherwise wouldn't have been given the opportunity. Roster is big enough to sustain it. I just wish they'd interact a bit more storyline wise instead of "because its Survivor Series soon." I used to love interpromotional matches in the old brand split. They had a real big fight feel to them. The main issue with the split is the same matches every week. If champions could appear on both shows we would see fresh feuds. When they unified the tag titles during the original split you had Jerishow on both shows feuding with different guys. |
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Post by TheLastDude on Feb 18, 2019 17:42:32 GMT -5
I've always found title defences at house shows stupid because you always know who will win the match. Always...except for all the times that titles HAVE changed hands at house shows. |
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Post by rkmo: Everyone Else but Me on Feb 18, 2019 17:55:47 GMT -5
If there was any time to have one World Champion spread across both brands it was when Brock was holding the Universal belt. With his time seemingly drawing to a close, I don't see the need now.
WWE is in a surplus of talents capable of being topcard, midcard, and tag champs. They will probably only accelerate the signings of indie guys to feed into NXT. That will be an ungodly logjam if they unify their championships now.
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Post by Nivro™ on Feb 18, 2019 18:10:31 GMT -5
It amazes me in the 80s there were 2 "traveling" teams. An "A team" that consisted of the World Champion and/or Hogan (if he wasnt champ at the moment) and then a "B Team" that consisted of the IC Champion and scattered top talents. That was with rosters that were top heavy. Now rosters and solid top to bottom & WWE/fans feel that every live event you need to have 5 title matches to make it feel important.
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Post by theoutlaw1999 on Feb 18, 2019 18:20:54 GMT -5
It amazes me in the 80s there were 2 "traveling" teams. An "A team" that consisted of the World Champion and/or Hogan (if he wasnt champ at the moment) and then a "B Team" that consisted of the IC Champion and scattered top talents. That was with rosters that were top heavy. Now rosters and solid top to bottom & WWE/fans feel that every live event you need to have 5 title matches to make it feel important. What I don't like is when guys are only used if they are fighting for a title. Look at the tag division for an example. Teams are only featured if they are in a title feud but for the rest of the time they are sidelined. It's like you only see 2 teams at a time. |
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Post by johnnyaustin21 on Feb 18, 2019 18:22:09 GMT -5
I am sure I'll get a lot of backlash for this but always felt the brand split the second time around was a horrible idea.Yes they have one of the most talented rosters ever right now but even with two different brands and with the network,NXT,205 Live and now NXT UK talents are still used terribly and have no direction.Streamlining the brand and roster would be good,again even with all the hours of TV the WWE still can't book things properly.
One roster is what is need and its been proven scenes the new brand split in 2016 the the ratings and house show gates have been down and the only talents that have come out in a better position on the card are gotten a better push that might not if their was just one brand are Bliss,Strowman,Elias and now Becky who are better off then they where in NXT or before the brands where split.This second brand split in the past 2 1/2 years had failed to really create and new top talents or main event draw.Unlike during the original when stars where made out of Cena,Brock,Orton,Batista...ect and mid card talent like Edge,Benoit,Guerrero & Bradshaw become main eventers and world champions.
Trim the rosters down because their two bloated,trim down the titles maybe to just the Men's & Women's World Titles & Tag Team Titles.Run two different house shows with one headlined by the WWE Champion and the other the Women's Champion and go from their.
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Post by theoutlaw1999 on Feb 18, 2019 18:32:20 GMT -5
I am sure I'll get a lot of backlash for this but always felt the brand split the second time around was a horrible idea.Yes they have one of the most talented rosters ever right now but even with two different brands and with the network,NXT,205 Live and now NXT UK talents are still used terribly and have no direction.Streamlining the brand and roster would be good,again even with all the hours of TV the WWE still can't book things properly. One roster is what is need and its been proven scenes the new brand split in 2016 the the ratings and house show gates have been down and the only talents that have come out in a better position on the card are gotten a better push that might not if their was just one brand are Bliss,Strowman,Elias and now Becky who are better off then they where in NXT or before the brands where split.This second brand split in the past 2 1/2 years had failed to really create and new top talents or main event draw.Unlike during the original when stars where made out of Cena,Brock,Orton,Batista...ect and mid card talent like Edge,Benoit,Guerrero & Bradshaw become main eventers and world champions. Trim the rosters down because their two bloated,trim down the titles maybe to just the Men's & Women's World Titles & Tag Team Titles.Run two different house shows with one headlined by the WWE Champion and the other the Women's Champion and go from their. I'm a 90's guy and I was never a big fan of the brand split but the roster is too big to be merged at present. Having said that the booking of this brand split is mediocre compared to the original one. Admittedly lots of guys came and went but they were given a chance. The likes of Nakamura and Almas could be something but they barely see the light of day. |
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Post by punksnotdead on Feb 18, 2019 19:46:17 GMT -5
It amazes me in the 80s there were 2 "traveling" teams. An "A team" that consisted of the World Champion and/or Hogan (if he wasnt champ at the moment) and then a "B Team" that consisted of the IC Champion and scattered top talents. That was with rosters that were top heavy. Now rosters and solid top to bottom & WWE/fans feel that every live event you need to have 5 title matches to make it feel important. You also had a guy on top in Hogan that could throw 3 punches, put his hand over his ear, hit a boot and a leg drop and send 10k people into mass hysteria. Different time, different audience. WWE established this culture during the Invasion and then they did a draft in 02 to cement the idea. We’ve seen them try and go back at various times and it hasn’t stuck. |
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Post by Nivro™ on Feb 18, 2019 19:58:29 GMT -5
It amazes me in the 80s there were 2 "traveling" teams. An "A team" that consisted of the World Champion and/or Hogan (if he wasnt champ at the moment) and then a "B Team" that consisted of the IC Champion and scattered top talents. That was with rosters that were top heavy. Now rosters and solid top to bottom & WWE/fans feel that every live event you need to have 5 title matches to make it feel important. You also had a guy on top in Hogan that could throw 3 punches, put his hand over his ear, hit a boot and a leg drop and send 10k people into mass hysteria. Different time, different audience. WWE established this culture during the Invasion and then they did a draft in 02 to cement the idea. We’ve seen them try and go back at various times and it hasn’t stuck.  |
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Post by ahunter8056 on Feb 19, 2019 4:34:20 GMT -5
I completely disagree, I'm afraid. The roster is simply too huge for the small amount of titles you're suggesting. That used to work back when the roster was much smaller. That's not the case anymore. There are too many superstars for such a minuscule amount of titles. The main roster needs the amount of titles it does to give enough superstars the spotlight at any one time.
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Post by Rated [R] NinJa on Feb 19, 2019 8:50:22 GMT -5
No.
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Post by Mr Wrestling Jr. on Feb 19, 2019 10:35:27 GMT -5
OK at present there are 4 World titles and quite frankly that is beyond an overkill. There should be one mens World title and one women's and that would put the champions on top of the entire company instead of being a show champion which simply doesn't have the same feel. Now lets look at the current mens World titles. If you exclude Roman's short reign you could say that Raw hasn't had a top champion in 2 years while over on Smackdown when we have constantly seen the same repetitive matches. When AJ was champion he had constant rematches with KO, Nakamura and Joe and that hurt them when they lost multiple times. But if the title hadn't been restricted to Smackdown we could've seen AJ challenge Raw stars which would give us fresh matches and feuds. Now lets move on to the Women's titles. At present the entire company is all about the Raw women's title while The Smackdown one is basically non existent and Asuka hasn't appeared in weeks so is there really any need for two women's belts? The mens tag titles also needs to be unified because one could easily accommodate both Raw and Smackdown teams. And this finally leaves us with the mid card belts. Admittedly the IC has have pretty good booking recently but the US one has been a joke. Nakamura rarely appeared and Truth hasn't been seen in 2 weeks so if Road Dogg can't find time for the US title on Smackdown the champion could easily have feuds on Raw. With the women's tag titles being cross branded I honestly feel that this should be the beginning for all the titles. I would unify the men's and women's World titles and the men's tag titles and maybe even introduce a mid card title for the women. Champions in the WWE should feel super important and sadly being a show champion doesn't have the same effect as being a main WWE champion. Four World Titles? The Universal on RAW and the WWE Title on SmackDown. That's two pal. The Women's Titles have never really been counted as World Championships by WWE. Having one World Championship and one Women's Championship to me would suck. Does say Drew have a long reign and Seth, Roman if he's able to return, Braun, Lashley, Finn and others face him in feuds and never have a chance as champion or does everyone have a six week reign? Same for the Women's Title. It'd be either Alexa/Becky/Charlotte/Ronda > everyone else for months and months. Everyone would yearn for Drew or Becky to win and three months into their reign there would be nothing but constant bitching about them hogging the main event. If Seth, Finn or Braun aren't in the World Title picture that pushes them down to the Intercontinental or United States picture which pushes lower card guys out the way like Andrade, Aleister, Ricochet, Elias, Miz, Jeff, Kofi which would lead to more backlash against WWE for "burying them" I believe is the phrase. Asuka doesn't appear for 3 weeks because logically who would she have faced at Elimination Chamber? The majority of SmackDown's women's division was involved in the Women's Tag Title Chamber match. I'd rather she not appear to keep some mystique and intrigue then have her face ing Lana. The Tag division on RAW has been more miss than hit lately while SmackDown has been great. You have one Tag Title again and we follow the same pattern. Revival hold the titles for five months and everyone will be frustrated that Heavy Machinery, The Usos, The Bar, War Raiders and The Undisputed Era whenever they come up won't get a shot. Same for the midcard. I've been hating the short Intercontinental Title reigns and Nakamura was handled poorly as United States Champion but with two popular baby faces as champion that always get good reactions this will bring more attention to the titles. R-Truth hasn't appeared for two weeks to sell a beat down by Rusev and Nakamura and what would he have done at Elimination Chamber? 3 minute open challenge against Ellsworth? You want to unify everything which limits opportunities for everyone. Saying there's too many titles in WWE to me is wrong. RAW Titles appear and are defended ONLY on RAWSmackDown Titles appear and are defended ONLY on SmackDown205 Live Title(s) appear and are defended ONLY on 205 Live - Never know if they'll change their mind about the Cruiserweight Tags which would be competed for by Cruiserweights only. NXT Titles appear and are defended ONLY on NXT - Haven't even made appearances on NXT UK as of yet. NXT UK Titles appear and are defended ONLY on NXT UK - Haven't even made appearances on NXT as of yet. |
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