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Post by OTC Waxbender on Feb 20, 2019 21:12:19 GMT -5
Guess I'll point out the obvious feud he'd have. The New Day implodes over the title. Too easy. You know that's WWE Logic lmao but they'd probably be unwilling to risk the merch sales so it would be a "friendly rivalry" with no real threat of him losing the strap or New Day disbanding. Yeah but that would be the only interesting program he’d have. And how long would that last? Again, this is WWE so prolly the rest of the year
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2019 22:31:21 GMT -5
Count this guy in as someone who'd like to see him win the title. He's an amazing, well-respected performer.
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Post by Team Madness on Feb 20, 2019 23:03:52 GMT -5
I’m sorry but KOFI should be no where near a BIG 4 ppv main event let alone WRESTLEMANIA.....it’s cool to see him get a title shot but he’s not Heavyweight Champion Material
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Post by Gorilla on Feb 20, 2019 23:07:59 GMT -5
Koko B Ware should have gotten a title run as well...
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Post by Emerald Enthusiast on Feb 21, 2019 1:05:55 GMT -5
Pretty hard to believe a tiny little tag team guy can beat a guy like Orton or Samoa Joe. Very poor booking It shouldn't be that difficult to believe. One of the most famous bouts in UFC history is Royce Gracie vs Dan Severn, which the much smaller (by about 80lbs) Gracie won. In addition to that, both Manny Yarborough and Akebono, two of the biggest guys to ever compete in MMA, both lost matches to men less than 1/2 of their respective bodyweights.
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Post by TheSystem 1.5 on Feb 21, 2019 1:46:25 GMT -5
Koko B Ware should have gotten a title run as well...
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Post by hbkbigdaddycool on Feb 21, 2019 12:27:46 GMT -5
The problem with Kofi is, that this came out of no where.
He has been in a tag team for the past 4 years, and because Ali gets injured, Kofi somehow gets this push??
There are a lot of other guys that could have taken his spot. Nakamura vs. Bryan would make a helluva lot more sense at the PPV than Kofi vs. Bryan.
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Post by Deep Figure Value on Feb 21, 2019 14:26:45 GMT -5
I'm into it. I've not quite ever been a fan of The New Day as a unit. Just not my cup of tea. That said, they handed Kofi the limelight on a silver platter, and he completely made the most of it. He went out, two straight, and put on the performance of a lifetime. For whatever degree of "brass ring" grabass the company likes to spout off, that there's about as textbook a show as you can get. Run with it. If it works? Jackpot. If not? Shuffle him back into the deck and see what comes up next.
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Post by Escape The Rules on Feb 21, 2019 21:44:02 GMT -5
Definitely a case of the blind leading the blind. But I'd be lying if I said I didn't enjoy the hell out of the last 10 minutes of that chamber match. It's so rare that we get to see someone who's never been champ before get a believable chance at winning it. Most of the matches you see these days are guys who've already won the title. I'm ready for another moment similar to win Guerrero or Benoit won their respective world titles.
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Post by cso on Feb 21, 2019 22:22:23 GMT -5
I'm a fan of kofi, but he's upper mid card at best... if edge can get a run at that level or jinder at being low mid card.. why not?
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Post by ~ Cymru ~ on Feb 21, 2019 22:23:00 GMT -5
I enjoyed his push back in the day Before the Orton incident. Glad to see something big is happening for him, I fully expected Big E to take the chamber spot as he is usually the one they try and push when it comes to singles matches.
Its been a long time since we have seen Kofi work as a singles guy. Itd be great to see Kofi win the big one and defend the title under "New Day rules" wherein any member of the new day can defend the title. They've been around long enough and have been hugely successful there's no devaluation in giving them their own "freebirds" style title defense system.
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Post by OTC Waxbender on Feb 22, 2019 5:25:52 GMT -5
IWC: We want something fresh and new.
WWE: Lets push Kofi Kingston.
IWC: Booooooo!
WWE: I thought you wanted something fresh?
IWC: We don't know what we want.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2019 10:56:38 GMT -5
So, what was the Orton incident with Kofi? I only got back into watching the past few years. Thanks.
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Post by alanpartridge on Feb 22, 2019 11:27:26 GMT -5
The problem with Kofi is, that this came out of no where. He has been in a tag team for the past 4 years, and because Ali gets injured, Kofi somehow gets this push?? There are a lot of other guys that could have taken his spot. Nakamura vs. Bryan would make a helluva lot more sense at the PPV than Kofi vs. Bryan. His match with AJ at last Mania wasn't that good
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Post by Deep Figure Value on Feb 22, 2019 11:43:24 GMT -5
The problem with Kofi is, that this came out of no where. He has been in a tag team for the past 4 years, and because Ali gets injured, Kofi somehow gets this push?? There are a lot of other guys that could have taken his spot. Nakamura vs. Bryan would make a helluva lot more sense at the PPV than Kofi vs. Bryan. His match with AJ at last Mania wasn't that good That's the big difference maker here, to me, at least. I'm a big fan of Nakamura - certainly moreso than I would say I'm a fan of Kofi. That said, when the opportunity presented itself for Nakamura to go toe-to-toe with AJ, it just sort of...happened. It wasn't particularly memorable or engaging, and the best thing to come of it was a promising heel turn that hasn't amounted to much in the year since. Contrarily, Kofi's run these past few weeks has been considerably more engaging. The live audience has been eating it up, it's resonating through whatever it is WWE likes to direct their talent to do on social media, and it's creating the sort of excitement across the board that the company, rightly, should look to thrive upon. I'd love for Nakamura to have gotten a shot and have made it work, but for whatever reason, it didn't. Kofi, who wasn't particularly even on my radar (or that of many others), was handed the ball and has made a hell of a drive. Wrestling's a funny business, but it only makes sense to capitalize on what works. McMahon and Co. eat so much sh*t for not responding when something clicks into place. I'm willing to hand them the benefit of the doubt on the rare occasion that they do.
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Post by Emerald Enthusiast on Feb 22, 2019 12:52:19 GMT -5
So, what was the Orton incident with Kofi? I only got back into watching the past few years. Thanks. Kofi was at the start of a main event push and he was in a feud with Orton. Kofi missed a spot in a match on RAW in early 2010. It probably would have gone unnoticed, but Orton threw a tantrum in the ring, then reportedly went backstage and continued to gripe about Kofi. Orton was one of the top talents at the time, so someone backstage halted Kofi's push to placate Orton. While it's a fact that many backstage rumors are embellished or completely untrue, if you view the match, you can clearly see Orton lose his temper and break kayfabe. That's why this rumor is pretty well-known and generally believed.
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Post by kennyw86v2 on Feb 22, 2019 15:21:28 GMT -5
Main reason I'm all for it is because wwe is too predictable and this would have truly been a WOW!!! moment. We don't get those anymore. Also Daniel Bryan is an awful heel with a pansy gimmick. I'd be all for Hawkins winning the title of it got this current crapoff my tv.
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Post by kennyw86v2 on Feb 22, 2019 15:25:11 GMT -5
Pretty hard to believe a tiny little tag team guy can beat a guy like Orton or Samoa Joe. Very poor booking It shouldn't be that difficult to believe. One of the most famous bouts in UFC history is Royce Gracie vs Dan Severn, which the much smaller (by about 80lbs) Gracie won. In addition to that, both Manny Yarborough and Akebono, two of the biggest guys to ever compete in MMA, both lost matches to men less than 1/2 of their respective bodyweights. The size argument is the dumbest crapI've ever heard. Oh no he's too small, I like my champion big and muscular with lots of baby oil.
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Post by Deep Figure Value on Feb 22, 2019 16:08:00 GMT -5
It shouldn't be that difficult to believe. One of the most famous bouts in UFC history is Royce Gracie vs Dan Severn, which the much smaller (by about 80lbs) Gracie won. In addition to that, both Manny Yarborough and Akebono, two of the biggest guys to ever compete in MMA, both lost matches to men less than 1/2 of their respective bodyweights. The size argument is the dumbest crap I've ever heard. Oh no he's too small, I like my champion big and muscular with lots of baby oil. Yeah, the size argument is just plain grasping. Even if you disregard the 30 year shift from "the land of the giants" to today, the last three champions share an average difference in weight of approximately four pounds between them, and about one inch height difference, in all. Kofi is perfectly within class, size wise, as Daniel Bryan or AJ Styles. Hell, Kofi isn't even the smallest among them.
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Post by aggressiveperfector on Feb 22, 2019 17:23:25 GMT -5
Basically WWE is doing what helped them turn around back in the Monday Night Wars era. They are throwing crapat the wall and seeing what sticks. They are taking chances on things finally. They are spicing things up. Things a lot of people have wanted from them but now that they are doing it are giving them crapfor it (It's what the IWC does, I get it) they need to build up an upper card. That's what they are doing.
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