ohernan6
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Post by ohernan6 on Feb 20, 2019 19:27:36 GMT -5
Finally someone else who isn't look at sd with rose tinted glasses. It's hypocritical that nobody says anything negative about Shane being a big part of tv . but if it was Stephanie people would lose their minds. the same Shane who on the first sd after the draft said SmackDown would not be about authority figures. Almas is just fine, Rusev and Nakamura are currently in a storyline, Benjamin I’ll give you, I forgot about him. Rey isn’t gonna be on every week, that is his deal. Asuka is just fine, she is the champ, wrestlevotes made it very clear they have a mania plan for Asuka, they just left her off tv prior to Chamber cause they didn’t wanna waste her on Vega, and Lana. Truth is just fine, he is US champ and people get annoyed when he is in tv every week and then when he is off they wanna know where he is, The Bar was on last night and missed a week, not a big deal. Road Dog books similar to NXT with people being off multiple weeks at a time. I enjoy it, I think part of Raw’s Issue is that people have to be on every single week to fill time. It’s why no one on Raw feels special. I think all shows should be swapping people in and out every week. The Bar lose the titles??? Why wouldn’t they go home for a few weeks to put together a new strategy. Truth takes a beating Fromm Rusev and Nakamura, why wouldn’t he take 2-3 weeks off to heal. It makes sense to me. Honestly as long as they remember to rotate the guys in and out I think it should be this way. You speak pure logic! I'd also like to add that Smackdown has basically created a bunch of main venters that all seem like they're on equal levels: AJ, Bryan, Orton, Joe, Hardy... and then they're elevating Kofi and Mustafa... and then you still have Rey, Andrade, and Miz that can easily be added to that mix. I think people are quick to call WWE trash, but Smackdown is pretty damn solid. Raw on the other hand... I guess they have Brock and Brawn... and everyone else.
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Post by theoutlaw1999 on Feb 20, 2019 19:59:45 GMT -5
Finally someone else who isn't look at sd with rose tinted glasses. It's hypocritical that nobody says anything negative about Shane being a big part of tv . but if it was Stephanie people would lose their minds. the same Shane who on the first sd after the draft said SmackDown would not be about authority figures. Almas is just fine, Rusev and Nakamura are currently in a storyline, Benjamin I’ll give you, I forgot about him. Rey isn’t gonna be on every week, that is his deal. Asuka is just fine, she is the champ, wrestlevotes made it very clear they have a mania plan for Asuka, they just left her off tv prior to Chamber cause they didn’t wanna waste her on Vega, and Lana. Truth is just fine, he is US champ and people get annoyed when he is in tv every week and then when he is off they wanna know where he is, The Bar was on last night and missed a week, not a big deal. Road Dog books similar to NXT with people being off multiple weeks at a time. I enjoy it, I think part of Raw’s Issue is that people have to be on every single week to fill time. It’s why no one on Raw feels special. I think all shows should be swapping people in and out every week. The Bar lose the titles??? Why wouldn’t they go home for a few weeks to put together a new strategy. Truth takes a beating Fromm Rusev and Nakamura, why wouldn’t he take 2-3 weeks off to heal. It makes sense to me. Honestly as long as they remember to rotate the guys in and out I think it should be this way. But new guys need to be featured as much as possible to get over. Why should general fans care about Almas if he comes out now and again and wrestles random matches? Look at Drew Mcntyre, he tears the house down every week with a dominated, monster persona and that has made him a star, in fact a World champion contender. Also if there was a possibility that your favourite isn't going to appear would that not surely effect ticket sales? If you are a Balor fan you are most guaranteed to see him at a live Raw but if your a Nakamura fan the chances of seeing him at a live SD are low. From my memory during The Attitude era a week would never have passed where we didn't see Austin, Rock, Kane, DX, Taker etc unless they were injured. I've been watching from 97 and I have never remembered a time when important stars would disappear for weeks, it's something only jobbers used to do.
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Post by hitmancmedge on Feb 20, 2019 20:14:46 GMT -5
Almas is just fine, Rusev and Nakamura are currently in a storyline, Benjamin I’ll give you, I forgot about him. Rey isn’t gonna be on every week, that is his deal. Asuka is just fine, she is the champ, wrestlevotes made it very clear they have a mania plan for Asuka, they just left her off tv prior to Chamber cause they didn’t wanna waste her on Vega, and Lana. Truth is just fine, he is US champ and people get annoyed when he is in tv every week and then when he is off they wanna know where he is, The Bar was on last night and missed a week, not a big deal. Road Dog books similar to NXT with people being off multiple weeks at a time. I enjoy it, I think part of Raw’s Issue is that people have to be on every single week to fill time. It’s why no one on Raw feels special. I think all shows should be swapping people in and out every week. The Bar lose the titles??? Why wouldn’t they go home for a few weeks to put together a new strategy. Truth takes a beating Fromm Rusev and Nakamura, why wouldn’t he take 2-3 weeks off to heal. It makes sense to me. Honestly as long as they remember to rotate the guys in and out I think it should be this way. But new guys need to be featured as much as possible to get over. Why should general fans care about Almas if he comes out now and again and wrestles random matches? Look at Drew Mcntyre, he tears the house down every week with a dominated, monster persona and that has made him a star, in fact a World champion contender. Also if there was a possibility that your favourite isn't going to appear would that not surely effect ticket sales? If you are a Balor fan you are most guaranteed to see him at a live Raw but if your a Nakamura fan the chances of seeing him at a live SD are low. From my memory during The Attitude era a week would never have passed where we didn't see Austin, Rock, Kane, DX, Taker etc unless they were injured. I've been watching from 97 and I have never remembered a time when important stars would disappear for weeks, it's something only jobbers used to do. I think the attitude era was just a different animal, it was a time that we just won’t ever see again. But also, there were a lot of weeks where those guys wouldn’t spend a ton of time on the show, three minute matches, promos, etc and you could very much argue that an act like the NWO suffered from being all over nitro and not knowing when to pull back. I’m just saying I think a large part of what makes Raw an issue every week is that Baron Corbin or Finn or Ambrose will have a ten minute match every single week because they have three hours to fill. It doesn’t give you a chance to want to see anyone. I think it’s a part of why the house shows suffer too is you can see these guys on tv every single week wrestling for 10-15 mins. I think that’s why Raw May have better ratings but the average attendance of smackdown house shows is slightly higher, cause Aj is not wrestling every single week. Orton isn’t on tv every week, it’s also why NXT house shows do really well, cause you may only see Adam Cole wrestle once a month, or you may go weeks without even seeing Velveteen Dream.
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Post by marino13 on Feb 20, 2019 21:12:48 GMT -5
Adam Pearce said... "The squeaky wheel does NOT always get the grease. Sometimes it gets replaced. It all depends on *how* it squeaks."
I'm all for believing in yourself, I just hope he doesn't over estimate his value. Some people are just meant to be a worker ant.
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Post by hitmancmedge on Feb 20, 2019 21:18:58 GMT -5
Adam Pearce said... "The squeaky wheel does NOT always get the grease. Sometimes it gets replaced. It all depends on *how* it squeaks."I'm all for believing in yourself, I just hope he doesn't over estimate his value. Some people are just meant to be a worker ant. One thing that truly bugs me about wrestlers today and I get it but still. Everyone thinks they can be a top guy, no one wants to do their “job” sure the Brawler wanted to be a top guy but he understood his role, no one outside of Curt Hawkins understands how they can help guys and help the company in the role their in. Apparently Hawkins is paid very well for the position he is in as well.
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Post by Deep Figure Value on Feb 22, 2019 13:56:57 GMT -5
Granted:
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Gargano
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Post by Gargano on Feb 22, 2019 14:11:20 GMT -5
Peyton? All for the taking?
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Post by FLUX on Feb 22, 2019 14:12:02 GMT -5
The best thing Tye ever did in his career was his reaction to Truth saying he was going to pin Carmella on a pre-SummerSlam Smackdown.
Nothing of importance has been lost.
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Post by JC Motors on Feb 22, 2019 16:13:47 GMT -5
Wow WWE spring cleaning has come early
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Post by King Richius on Feb 22, 2019 16:50:53 GMT -5
A sad case of the gimmick being more over than the wrestler. Entire arenas went crazy chanting ten and losing their minds when the perfect 10 came out as number 10 in the Royal Rumble. Then they proceeded to sit on their hands during his matches.
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Hasbromaniac
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Joined on: Nov 17, 2004 16:13:30 GMT -5
Posts: 3,625
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Post by Hasbromaniac on Feb 22, 2019 16:56:18 GMT -5
WWE is overflowing with underused wrestlers. If he's happier elsewhere, God Bless.
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Post by The Natural Eddy Valintino on Feb 22, 2019 17:31:19 GMT -5
Honestly nothing big was lost. They gotta thin out the unused talent.
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Post by tylerbreezee on Feb 22, 2019 18:38:02 GMT -5
Mojo should be next
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Post by RuthlessFigs on Feb 22, 2019 20:08:01 GMT -5
The best thing Tye ever did in his career was his reaction to Truth saying he was going to pin Carmella on a pre-SummerSlam Smackdown. Nothing of importance has been lost. The f*ck, that was Summerslam time? That feels so recent.
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Post by Iron Bison on Feb 22, 2019 22:20:48 GMT -5
A sad case of the gimmick being more over than the wrestler. Entire arenas went crazy chanting ten and losing their minds when the perfect 10 came out as number 10 in the Royal Rumble. Then they proceeded to sit on their hands during his matches. I agree and disagree. Tye has the tools to be a great mid carder and its unfortunate for him he cant be more than that but some of the greatest legends in our time were mid careers. People are fickle and they're partly to blame. But this brings me to another gripe. The "creative " team. HOW hard is it to just make a simple storyline and just stretch it out a couple of weeks or months? They could have just had Axel bump into Tye said something like "Perfect 10, yeah ok...." in a sarcastic way and walked off. Have Tye cost him and Bo a match next week and then have Axel cost Tye an IC title match the next week, have some backstage segments talking about how Axel is far from Perfect and Tye is more deserving, yadadada. Axel wants to defend and reclaim the Hennig name. Wait a few more weeks and have them do a best 2 out of 3 matches on raw with them and have Tye win one and Axel win one and tie the last one and finally have a winner take all match at Wrestlemania. Simple as $#it.
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Post by Iron Bison on Feb 22, 2019 22:22:01 GMT -5
Mojo should have been first in line to be released as soon as he was signed.
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Post by bababooey on Feb 22, 2019 22:33:41 GMT -5
While Tye isn’t a big loss for WWE, I can definitely respect a guy betting on himself. Rather than being content to sit home and collect a paycheck, it seems like he’ll make ex-WWE star money on the indies and maybe build up his rep and maybe come back to WWE with leverage for more money.
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Post by BSR on Feb 23, 2019 21:43:19 GMT -5
Mojo should have been first in line to be released as soon as he was signed. He shouldn't have a job honestly.
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Post by FLUX on Feb 24, 2019 13:46:41 GMT -5
A sad case of the gimmick being more over than the wrestler. Entire arenas went crazy chanting ten and losing their minds when the perfect 10 came out as number 10 in the Royal Rumble. Then they proceeded to sit on their hands during his matches. I agree and disagree. Tye has the tools to be a great mid carder and its unfortunate for him he cant be more than that but some of the greatest legends in our time were mid careers. People are fickle and they're partly to blame. But this brings me to another gripe. The "creative " team. HOW hard is it to just make a simple storyline and just stretch it out a couple of weeks or months? They could have just had Axel bump into Tye said something like "Perfect 10, yeah ok...." in a sarcastic way and walked off. Have Tye cost him and Bo a match next week and then have Axel cost Tye an IC title match the next week, have some backstage segments talking about how Axel is far from Perfect and Tye is more deserving, yadadada. Axel wants to defend and reclaim the Hennig name. Wait a few more weeks and have them do a best 2 out of 3 matches on raw with them and have Tye win one and Axel win one and tie the last one and finally have a winner take all match at Wrestlemania. Simple as $#it. Did you really just try to sell someone on a Curtis Axel/Tye Dillinger match being on WrestleMania? Chief, this sure as hell ain't it.
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Post by Iron Bison on Feb 24, 2019 15:33:17 GMT -5
I agree and disagree. Tye has the tools to be a great mid carder and its unfortunate for him he cant be more than that but some of the greatest legends in our time were mid careers. People are fickle and they're partly to blame. But this brings me to another gripe. The "creative " team. HOW hard is it to just make a simple storyline and just stretch it out a couple of weeks or months? They could have just had Axel bump into Tye said something like "Perfect 10, yeah ok...." in a sarcastic way and walked off. Have Tye cost him and Bo a match next week and then have Axel cost Tye an IC title match the next week, have some backstage segments talking about how Axel is far from Perfect and Tye is more deserving, yadadada. Axel wants to defend and reclaim the Hennig name. Wait a few more weeks and have them do a best 2 out of 3 matches on raw with them and have Tye win one and Axel win one and tie the last one and finally have a winner take all match at Wrestlemania. Simple as $#it. Did you really just try to sell someone on a Curtis Axel/Tye Dillinger match being on WrestleMania? Chief, this sure as hell ain't it. If people invest in it, then yes. But again, why dont people give a $#it about these two? Oh, right. "Creative". (Besides, it could have just been an opening match. No where did I say its gonna be the main event.)
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