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Post by mvpfan32 on Sept 3, 2007 18:20:56 GMT -5
I can't wait until Matt Roth tears people's head off this year. You Aren't The Only One. Everytime ive seen him on the field hes been a monster
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Post by Jean-Ralphio on Sept 3, 2007 18:35:57 GMT -5
Why did you capitalize every word in your first sentence and didnt do the same in the 2nd ??
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Post by I am CANADIAN on Sept 3, 2007 20:15:17 GMT -5
simeon rice has agreed to a 1 eyar contract with the broncos. patriots released wr reche caldwell.
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Post by Cult Member BriGuy on Sept 4, 2007 10:10:10 GMT -5
patriots released wr reche caldwell.
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Post by Jean-Ralphio on Sept 4, 2007 10:14:47 GMT -5
I bet when he was all alone in the locker room, he dropped the red tag
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Post by heartbreakkid2k3 on Sept 4, 2007 15:05:22 GMT -5
Simeon Rice with Denver makes me happy. It boosts the defense more. With the loss of Darrent Williams, they needed someone to step in and take over a bit.
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Post by Jean-Ralphio on Sept 4, 2007 16:04:01 GMT -5
But they play different positions....Rice and Williams?
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Post by Kliquid on Sept 4, 2007 16:09:24 GMT -5
Simeon Rice with Denver makes me happy. It boosts the defense more. With the loss of Darrent Williams, they needed someone to step in and take over a bit. Well, they got Dre Bly for that...
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Post by heartbreakkid2k3 on Sept 4, 2007 16:27:03 GMT -5
Simeon Rice with Denver makes me happy. It boosts the defense more. With the loss of Darrent Williams, they needed someone to step in and take over a bit. Well, they got Dre Bly for that... True, but they needed another defensive leader. Lynch, Bailey, Bly, and Rice will be a force this season.
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Post by heartbreakkid2k3 on Sept 4, 2007 16:28:00 GMT -5
But they play different positions....Rice and Williams? Yes, I know they play different positions. I was simply speaking in terms of a defensive leader. My apologies for not being more clear on that.
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Post by Jean-Ralphio on Sept 4, 2007 16:37:56 GMT -5
Rice is gonna be a part time player though, its not like hes gonna be Champ Bailey out there
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Post by dustin on Sept 4, 2007 18:48:52 GMT -5
Simeon Rice with Denver makes me happy. It boosts the defense more. With the loss of Darrent Williams, they needed someone to step in and take over a bit. that makes no sense. Rice was brought in because we lost Ekuban for the year. Dre' was brought in because we lost Darrent.Darrent wasn't even close to having Leadership status.
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Post by tim on Sept 4, 2007 21:04:04 GMT -5
even with the loss of Ekuban, wasnt your DE situation already pretty crowded? a great situational rusher in Dumervil, a 1st-rounder in Moss, a 3rd-rounder in Crowder, serviceable guys in Engelberger and Lang... Rice seems like mild overkill.
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Post by dustin on Sept 4, 2007 22:10:20 GMT -5
Shannahan of all people knows you can never have too much depth on defense.
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Post by mvpfan32 on Sept 5, 2007 5:08:46 GMT -5
Why did you capitalize every word in your first sentence and didnt do the same in the 2nd ?? meh didnt really feel like it
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Post by tim on Sept 5, 2007 8:20:00 GMT -5
Shannahan of all people knows you can never have too much depth on defense. true. and as you mentioned, leadership will play a big part. all the DE's I named are rather inexperienced, so Rice will bring some maturity and depth to the line. that said, with how crowded the situation is, I can't seem him playing more than 10 snaps a game. which might be the best thing for both parties.
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Post by tim on Sept 5, 2007 9:38:20 GMT -5
is it ever too early for a mock draft? not where i come from, bitches
1. Detroit Lions - Brian Brohm, QB Louisville 2. Dallas Cowboys(f. CLE) - Jake Long, OT Michigan 3. Oakland Raiders - DeSean Jackson, WR California* 4. Washington Redskins - Calais Campbell, DE Miami* 5. Miami Dolphins - Kenny Phillips, FS Miami* 6. New York Giants - Darren McFadden, RB Arkansas* 7. Kansas City Chiefs - Michael Oher, OT Mississippi* 8. Jacksonville Jaguars - Rey Maualuga, MLB Southern Cal* 9. Minnesota Vikings - Early Doucet, WR Louisiana State 10. Houston Texans - Glenn Dorsey, NG Louisiana State 11. Carolina Panthers - Andre' Woodson, QB Kentucky 12. Atlanta Falcons - Frank Okam, NT Texas 13. Arizona Cardinals - Chris Long, DE/DT Virginia 14. Cincinnati Bengals - Martellus Bennett, TE Texas A&M* 15. Green Bay Packers - Barry Richardson, OT Clemson 16. Tennessee Titans - Adarius Bowman, WR Oklahoma State 17. Buffalo Bills - Brandon Flowers, CB Virginia Tech* 18. New England Patriots(f. SF) - Phillip Wheeler, OLB Georgia Tech 19. Denver Broncos - Antoine Caldwell, OC Alabama* 20. Dallas Cowboys - Jonathan Stewart, RB Oregon* 21. Baltimore Ravens - Quentin Groves, DE/OLB Auburn 22. New Orleans Saints - Keith Rivers, OLB Southern Cal 23. New York Jets - Jonathan Hefney, FS Tennessee 24. Seattle Seahawks - Allen Patrick, RB Oklahoma 25. Tampa Bay Bucs - Matt Ryan, QB Boston College 26. St Louis Rams - Antoine Cason, CB Arizona 27. Chicago Bears - DeMario Pressley, DT North Carolina State 28. New England Patriots - Dwight Lowery, CB San Jose State 29. San Francisco 49ers(f. IND) - Herman Johnson, OG Louisiana State* 30. San Diego Chargers - Dan Connor, ILB Penn State 31. Philadelphia Eagles - Tommy Blake, DE/OLB Texas-Christian 32. Pittsburgh Steelers - Jorvorskie Lane, RB/FB Texas A&M*
33. Detroit Lions - Sam Baker, OT Southern Cal 34. Cleveland Browns - Terrell Thomas, CB Southern Cal 35. Oakland Raiders - Sedrick Ellis, DT Southern Cal 36. Washington Redskins - Tashard Choice, RB Georgia Tech 37. Miami Dolphins - Gosder Cherilus, OT Boston College 38. New York Giants - Derrick Harvey, DE Florida* 39. Kansas City Chiefs - Chad Henne, QB Michigan 40. Jacksonville Jaguars - Earl Bennett, WR Vanderbilt* 41. Minnesota Vikings - Nic Harris, FS Oklahoma* 42. Atlanta Falcons(f. HOU) - Dorien Bryant, WR Purdue* 43. Carolina Panthers - Travis Beckum, TE Wisconsin* 44. Atlanta Falcons - Jasper Brinkley, MLB South Carolina 45. Arizona Cardinals - Yvenson Bernard, RB Oregon State 46. Cincinnati Bengals - Quintin Demps, FS Texas El-Paso 47. Green Bay Packers - Vernon Gholston, DE Ohio State* 48. Tennessee Titans - DeMonte Bolden, DT Tennessee* 49. Buffalo Bills - Martin Rucker, TE Missouri 50. San Francisco 49ers - Aqib Talib, CB/FS Kansas* 51. Denver Broncos - Xavier Adibi, OLB Virginia Tech 52. Dallas Cowboys - James Hardy, WR Indiana* 53. Baltimore Ravens - Eric Foster, DT Rutgers 54. New Orleans Saints - John Carlson, TE Notre Dame 55. New York Jets - Harry Douglas, WR Louisville 56. Seattle Seahawks - Josh Barrett, SS Arizona State 57. Tampa Bay Bucs - Andre Fluellen, DT Florida State 58. St Louis Rams - Lawrence Jackson, DE Southern Cal 59. Chicago Bears - Colt Brennan, QB Hawaii 60. New England Patriots - Josh Johnson, QB San Diego 61. Indianapolis Colts - Jeremy Perry, OG Oregon State* 62. San Diego Chargers - Peyton Hillis, FB Arkansas 63. Philadelphia Eagles - Derek Pegues, SS/CB Mississippi State* 64. Pittsburgh Steelers - Glenn Sharpe, CB Miami
the hardest part of doing one so early--besides formulating a draft order out of thin air--is trying to play the field of which underclassmen will leave, and which won't. I just kind of went with my gut for the most part, so if you're wondering why you can't find names like Jamaal Charles, Ray Rice, Steve Slaton, Mario Manningham, Mario Urrutia, Malcolm Kelly, Ryan Clady, Alex Boone, James Laurinaitis, Justin King, Malcolm Jenkins, Courtney Greene, etc... well, thats why. just have an inkling that some of those guys will be hanging around for '08.
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Post by T R W on Sept 5, 2007 9:53:38 GMT -5
Falcons at #12? You're too generous tim.
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Post by Kliquid on Sept 5, 2007 10:01:43 GMT -5
2. Dallas Cowboys(f. CLE) - Jake Long, OT Michigan I like it. Dallas needs to get back to their bread and butter on offense - building offensive lines and overpowering the defense. 3. Oakland Raiders - DeSean Jackson, WR California* He certainly fits the style of player they'd want... 6. New York Giants - Darren McFadden, RB Arkansas* Good pick. Once the Brandon Jacobs/Reuben Droughns experiment fails, McFadden seems like the obvious pick for them if he falls this far. 9. Minnesota Vikings - Early Doucet, WR Louisiana State Ladies and gentlemen, the new Detroit Lions!...... Seriously, how many WR's is this team going to draft? I don't disagree with the pick, but it's just kind of ridiculous how many they've drafted. 11. Carolina Panthers - Andre' Woodson, QB Kentucky I'm not sure that I agree. I think whoever ends up being this team's starter at the end of the year will be their 'franchise QB' for years to come. 14. Cincinnati Bengals - Martellus Bennett, TE Texas A&M* I think this would be the first time I can remember that the Bengals would have a legitimate TE. 20. Dallas Cowboys - Jonathan Stewart, RB Oregon* I see all these people having the Cowboys draft a RB -- even McFadden... I just don't think that they will. You can never have too much depth at RB, but I really think that Marion Barber and Julius Jones are one of the best 1-2 punches in the league.
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Post by tim on Sept 5, 2007 10:56:38 GMT -5
thanks for the in-depth reply, i always appreciate when people give me detailed feedback i've always been a big Barber fan(a piece of me died when the Cowboys took him instead of the Eagles), and I think he really could be a "franchise back," and not just a goalline guy. but isn't Jones in a contract year? I haven't yet heard what the Phillips regime thinks of Jones, but I know Parcells didn't think he was long for the Cowboys. plus, I just love me some Jon Stewart and couldn't see him dropping too much further. its not every day that you can find a 230 pound back who is an excellent returner, catches the ball cleanly, and--of course--runs well between the tackles.
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