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Post by Mr. Show on Mar 21, 2019 23:05:37 GMT -5
So thats why the only time NXT 4 showed up at my Target, (it showed 6 in stock when I left my house, 4 left by the time I got there) it was just a peg full of Ruby Riott.
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Post by Bpatrick on Mar 22, 2019 0:21:37 GMT -5
Interesting to hear about this but explains some of the wackiness I've encountered recently.
The first time I found NXT 4, I asked someone for help and he had everyone but Drew, which seemed odd, thinking someone had already reserved Drew. The same store I went to find Elite 64 at and there were 3 Cenas and 5 Seths, which seemed disproportionate to what I expected cases to have.
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Post by Lorenzo Alcazar on Mar 22, 2019 1:40:18 GMT -5
This would explain why Amazon is pacing out the Elite 65 and 66 pre-orders ONE character at a time.
Got my Elite 65 Ronda and EY weeks ago...still waiting for Rusev and Aiden. Got my Elite 66 Kurt Angle and AJ this week....still waiting on Nikki Cross.
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Post by disorder on Mar 22, 2019 6:08:21 GMT -5
No store is ordering by figure. You really think the minimum wage employees are deciding what items will sell better than others? Minimum wage employees? No. Head office? Sure. They have records of which figures are selling well and which aren't - and they're also responsible for deciding what figures get discounted (so know what probably won't sell well). Not to mention, Smyths (in the UK) only ever seem to order/stock 5 figures every Elite series these days (instead of 6) - and they seem to be getting cases of all 1 figure, rather than the usual "mixed case". So it wouldn't surprise me at all if they have asked for or started ordering by figure, rather than having the usual mixed cases. If bill doesn’t know exact numbers, I doubt Walmart or any other company higher ups are aware of them. Highly doubt they keep track of each figure, at each store and what he purchased. This is all just wonky distribution. The tin foil hats always come out when people see crap like this or if they can’t find a specific figure.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 22, 2019 7:17:03 GMT -5
Why would Bill know the numbers? He designs the figures, he doesn’t deal with distribution or sales.
Why can’t people accept that things have changed in the last 6 months, retail was/is dying and the old model of ordering didn’t work and led to mass price reductions and stores not carrying the figures, stores are now trying something new and it looks like they get just a couple of boxes of everyone then boxes of JUST the guys they think are going to sell better. Not that hard to comprehend really.
“Hmmm, my AJ Styles figs really fly off the shelves but I’m stuck with tons of Miz and Alexa Bliss, next time I’ll get a few of them in for those few that want it and I’ll order some extra AJ’s to cover the demand”.
But I guess nothing is allowed to be confirmed until the select handful of usual posters declare their opinion and theirs alone as fact.
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Post by bababooey on Mar 22, 2019 7:48:58 GMT -5
Why would Bill know the numbers? He designs the figures, he doesn’t deal with distribution or sales. Why can’t people accept that things have changed in the last 6 months, retail was/is dying and the old model of ordering didn’t work and led to mass price reductions and stores not carrying the figures, stores are now trying something new and it looks like they get just a couple of boxes of everyone then boxes of JUST the guys they think are going to sell better. Not that hard to comprehend really. “Hmmm, my AJ Styles figs really fly off the shelves but I’m stuck with tons of Miz and Alexa Bliss, next time I’ll get a few of them in for those few that want it and I’ll order some extra AJ’s to cover the demand”. But I guess nothing is allowed to be confirmed until the select handful of usual posters declare their opinion and theirs alone as fact. To add to your point, I even doubt the sales people would know exact numbers off the top of their heads, especially while being interviewed. Also, even if they did just know the numbers, I doubt they’d just be throwing them out there for public knowledge. Most retailers have buyers/category managers. They most definitely look at what items are moving and what items aren’t. Then they decide what gets shelf space and how much shelf space you get. They will recommend changes in product mixes, or recommend running promotions to help move product. Also, for Walmart or Amazon for example, the buyers are so overwhelmed with the stuff on their plates that the heavily rely on algorithms and automatically generated reports. When I product gets to a dc, it’s scanned and put into their overall inventory. When they send it to a store, it’s scanned again and moved in their system to that specific store’s inventory. When the consumer buys the product, it’s scanned one more time and taken out of inventory. A lot of retailers have stock levels set in their systems, so when the products products fall close to or below those levels, the products are added to a purchase order. The buyer is then supposed to review the purchase order and edit it as necessary. What happens a lot is stuff isn’t scanned properly and the buyer will just push through the PO and order products that aren’t really needed. Then, at some point in the year the retailer will do and inventory and say “We’re overstocked. Something isn’t right. We don’t need to order more until we sell through this stuff.”
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Post by disorder on Mar 22, 2019 8:56:03 GMT -5
Why would Bill know the numbers? He designs the figures, he doesn’t deal with distribution or sales. Why can’t people accept that things have changed in the last 6 months, retail was/is dying and the old model of ordering didn’t work and led to mass price reductions and stores not carrying the figures, stores are now trying something new and it looks like they get just a couple of boxes of everyone then boxes of JUST the guys they think are going to sell better. Not that hard to comprehend really. “Hmmm, my AJ Styles figs really fly off the shelves but I’m stuck with tons of Miz and Alexa Bliss, next time I’ll get a few of them in for those few that want it and I’ll order some extra AJ’s to cover the demand”. But I guess nothing is allowed to be confirmed until the select handful of usual posters declare their opinion and theirs alone as fact. The stores have no way of knowing. Each new elected series has the same sku/dpci or whatever. That’s what they have as their inventory. Bill has stated that there’s no way to track what exact figures sell more except by looking at the pegs. Each store isn’t sending someone out on a daily basis to keep track of what exact figure moves and which ones don’t. They won’t put that much effort into a toy line. They order when they need stock and they put out what they are delivered. Wasn’t it explained with dude love or someone else, that earlier shipments didn’t have it so stores were shipped updated cases with him and some with only him? Again. It’s always easier to make up some odd theory that we are being screwed and the stores and Mattel don’t know what they’re doing, rather than be sane about it. Bill has also made it clear that big box stores order by what they need. They don’t order by specific series number nor do they order by specific figure. Stores in the UK have been given the opportunity to order specific figures just recently.
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Post by BadGirlRyleigh on Mar 22, 2019 10:26:38 GMT -5
I was wondering why my Walmart has a billion WM19 Triple Hs and barely any of the other three in the set
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Post by HandsomeHollywood on Mar 22, 2019 14:07:49 GMT -5
How do you know all this? Because case breakdowns are something often discussed on here, and they rarely change, i worked at argos's distribution centre in Basildon, Essex for a while and stock is often opened and repacked for the sake of space and ease of picking And if you go to a smyths and check the top racking you will see the cases, opened but repacked, it makes restocking easier This sounds right. I've worked retail where the distributors have sent us wacky repacks. It's not unheard of at all. Honestly the lengths of mental gymnastics people are going through to "prove" conspiracies because they can't get a Pete Dunne figure is approaching hysteria levels. Employees are in on it. Mattel is sending cases of single figures. Bill is keeping them. Ryder and Hawkins are hogging them all. I expect soon people will think truck drivers and delivery people are in on it ala The Wire season 2.
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Post by SteveHulk on Mar 22, 2019 15:49:00 GMT -5
Minimum wage employees? No. Head office? Sure. They have records of which figures are selling well and which aren't - and they're also responsible for deciding what figures get discounted (so know what probably won't sell well). Not to mention, Smyths (in the UK) only ever seem to order/stock 5 figures every Elite series these days (instead of 6) - and they seem to be getting cases of all 1 figure, rather than the usual "mixed case". So it wouldn't surprise me at all if they have asked for or started ordering by figure, rather than having the usual mixed cases. If bill doesn’t know exact numbers, I doubt Walmart or any other company higher ups are aware of them. Highly doubt they keep track of each figure, at each store and what he purchased.This is all just wonky distribution. The tin foil hats always come out when people see crap like this or if they can’t find a specific figure. I think - at Smyths at least - they do keep track of sales for individual figures... they're always reducing certain figures and not others: some figures in a wave - the more popular ones - remain at full price, while others (that hang around/don't sell as well) can be reduced, sometimes to as little as £5. So it doesn't seem unreasonable if, given the option, they prefer to order cases of one figure, rather than the usual mix.
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Post by SmithyPlayz on Mar 22, 2019 15:57:50 GMT -5
Because case breakdowns are something often discussed on here, and they rarely change, i worked at argos's distribution centre in Basildon, Essex for a while and stock is often opened and repacked for the sake of space and ease of picking And if you go to a smyths and check the top racking you will see the cases, opened but repacked, it makes restocking easier This sounds right. I've worked retail where the distributors have sent us wacky repacks. It's not unheard of at all. Honestly the lengths of mental gymnastics people are going through to "prove" conspiracies because they can't get a Pete Dunne figure is approaching hysteria levels. Employees are in on it. Mattel is sending cases of single figures. Bill is keeping them. Ryder and Hawkins are hogging them all. I expect soon people will think truck drivers and delivery people are in on it ala The Wire season 2. I mean have you seen the delivery drivers give the cases of Pete Dunne figures to the stores?
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Post by HandsomeHollywood on Mar 22, 2019 20:44:19 GMT -5
This sounds right. I've worked retail where the distributors have sent us wacky repacks. It's not unheard of at all. Honestly the lengths of mental gymnastics people are going through to "prove" conspiracies because they can't get a Pete Dunne figure is approaching hysteria levels. Employees are in on it. Mattel is sending cases of single figures. Bill is keeping them. Ryder and Hawkins are hogging them all. I expect soon people will think truck drivers and delivery people are in on it ala The Wire season 2. I mean have you seen the delivery drivers give the cases of Pete Dunne figures to the stores?
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Post by dgnr8 on Mar 23, 2019 20:14:09 GMT -5
This is 100% a distribution warehouse issue. I have personally toured one of the distribution warehouses for the retail company I work for and have seen how, in an effort to meet real or projected demand (based on sales climate), the warehouse has orders to open manufacturer boxes and redistribute certain items. This is what causes some stores to receive a box of all yellow rangers, all NECA Halloween Myers, a split box of three Triple H/three Kofi, etc.
They ship from the manufacturer in regular assortments and are repacked at the retailer's warehouse. This is why we regularly receive "distros" containing odd assortments of shirts, hats, wallets, socks, statues, water bottles, mugs and seemingly random action figures all in the same box.
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