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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2019 11:00:20 GMT -5
Hello, I am piecing together a loose hasbro set. Does anyone know if there is any difference between the following 4 loose figures that were re-released to include the year stamped on the back?
Series 1 Smash vs Series 2 Two-Pack Smash Series 6 Tatanka vs Series 9 Tatanka Series 7 Razor Ramon vs Series 10 Razor Ramon Series 7 Shawn Michaels vs Series 10 Shawn Michaels
I realize the cards are different but loose could an expert determine any difference? Thanks in advance!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2019 11:47:51 GMT -5
No, all the exactly identical
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Post by Rebel23 on Mar 25, 2019 12:37:58 GMT -5
Smash and Tatanka were the same. Series 10 saw both a re-release of the original Series 7 figures, and repaints of each. The repaints were black and silver HBK and purple Razor. The rumor I always heard was the repainted HBK and Razor were to be mailaways for the Hasbro points, but that didn't happen so they released them in Series 10.
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Post by drnickriviera995 on Mar 25, 2019 13:12:29 GMT -5
The Smash's are different I tell you! lol.
The red in the face paint is darker on the singles release and lighter/brighter on the 2-pack release. I know noticed this when I was younger on my originals I had as a kid, and I can still see the difference today. Not anything someone will notice without close inspection, but I'm a psychopath about that stuff. I would also need 2 Smashes to display both with Ax, and then to display with Smash. Though you could display S1 in order and end with Demolition, start S2 w/ the tag teams and demolition.
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Post by Rebel23 on Mar 25, 2019 13:21:16 GMT -5
The Smash's are different I tell you! lol. The red in the face paint is darker on the singles release and lighter/brighter on the 2-pack release. I know noticed this when I was younger on my originals I had as a kid, and I can still see the difference today. Not anything someone will notice without close inspection, but I'm a psychopath about that stuff. I would also need 2 Smashes to display both with Ax, and then to display with Smash. Though you could display S1 in order and end with Demolition, start S2 w/ the tag teams and demolition. Interesting. I have never heard that, but I don't doubt it either.
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Post by Hasbromaniac on Mar 25, 2019 16:43:02 GMT -5
Not sure on the difference on Smash, might have actually missed that. As to others, they were the same. Even the Hogan from Series 1 on the Series 3 card.
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Post by drnickriviera995 on Mar 25, 2019 18:30:12 GMT -5
Not sure on the difference on Smash, might have actually missed that. As to others, they were the same. Even the Hogan from Series 1 on the Series 3 card. Speaking of Hogan 1 on S3 card, are there any MOC collectors that would need ALL re-releases to consider their collection complete? Talking reissues of S1 guys on S2 cards, S2 reissues on S3 cards etc. Where the only difference is the other comics shown on the back for the other figs available. Same with Rockers and Bushwackers on S3/S2 tag team cards.
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Post by Hasbromaniac on Mar 25, 2019 19:31:40 GMT -5
Think I might have been the only one that had all the different cardback variants.😁
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2019 4:14:12 GMT -5
I really wish the first Tatanka had been in white tights so when it came time to releasing a 2nd one it wasn't just a rerelease.
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Post by TheEvilDoink1987 on Mar 26, 2019 5:26:21 GMT -5
I really wish the first Tatanka had been in white tights so when it came time to releasing a 2nd one it wasn't just a rerelease. Or even if the second release just came with a damn loincloth that would have been more than enough. I understand Hasbro wasnt generous with the cloth goods, but it's such a glaring omission and seemed necessary for Tatanka especially with guys lower on the card like Berserker getting the five-star treatment. A straight re-release was the laziest thing ever.
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Post by jason1980s on Mar 26, 2019 7:22:44 GMT -5
I will always wonder about the Tatanka figure, not having the cloth and also having the symbols on the side of his leg on the prototype. My guess has always been Tatanka was supposed to be a "big deal...quickly" so Hasbro rushed the figure but since Tatanka changed his outfit so quickly they didn't know the direction to go so just put it out as quickly as possible and the cloth wasn't possible for the release. The should def. have done something with the purple card release though
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Post by master_fuji on Mar 26, 2019 9:40:36 GMT -5
I will always wonder about the Tatanka figure, not having the cloth and also having the symbols on the side of his leg on the prototype. My guess has always been Tatanka was supposed to be a "big deal...quickly" so Hasbro rushed the figure but since Tatanka changed his outfit so quickly they didn't know the direction to go so just put it out as quickly as possible and the cloth wasn't possible for the release. The should def. have done something with the purple card release though The evolution of Hasbro Tatanka: - Initially drawn with the "jumper" action and white tights. - Re-designed to use the "Texas Tornado" body but still with white tights - Re-designed again to just plain blue trunks.
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Post by drnickriviera995 on Mar 26, 2019 11:47:14 GMT -5
Yeah, a white trunks Tatanka would have been cool. Maybe they could have done that for the re-release, even though it would be out of date, it's still different, and I wouldn't have cared, I'd just want another figure to have had. Or they could have just released Brutus, Hasbro released many guys that had been gone for around a year already. Anything would have sold way better than a re-release of an old figure.
Same with Hart Foundation, I couldn't have cared less that they weren't a team by 93, I would have still wanted Hart Foundation Anvil over NF Anvil 100 times over.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2019 12:42:22 GMT -5
I will always wonder about the Tatanka figure, not having the cloth and also having the symbols on the side of his leg on the prototype. My guess has always been Tatanka was supposed to be a "big deal...quickly" so Hasbro rushed the figure but since Tatanka changed his outfit so quickly they didn't know the direction to go so just put it out as quickly as possible and the cloth wasn't possible for the release. The should def. have done something with the purple card release though The evolution of Hasbro Tatanka: - Initially drawn with the "jumper" action and white tights. - Re-designed to use the "Texas Tornado" body but still with white tights - Re-designed again to just plain blue trunks. Wait I've never seen the jumper tatanka in white tights. Have we ever seen that drawing?? Or the Texas Tornado body with white tights? Because as far as I'm aware we've just seen the proto with the symbols from the white tights on the blue trunks version
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Post by MKSavage on Mar 26, 2019 13:48:30 GMT -5
The evolution of Hasbro Tatanka: - Initially drawn with the "jumper" action and white tights. - Re-designed to use the "Texas Tornado" body but still with white tights - Re-designed again to just plain blue trunks. Wait I've never seen the jumper tatanka in white tights. Have we ever seen that drawing?? Or the Texas Tornado body with white tights? Because as far as I'm aware we've just seen the proto with the symbols from the white tights on the blue trunks version Sadly, no. I think someone owns them and is not releasing them. I would like to see those. It would have been awesome if they made the jumper with white tights for series 6 and had the series 6 release for series 9. I always wondered why the changed the series 6 Tatanka from a jumper to tornado's body and Berzerker from tornado's body to Hacksaw's.
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Post by drnickriviera995 on Mar 26, 2019 13:59:36 GMT -5
Wait I've never seen the jumper tatanka in white tights. Have we ever seen that drawing?? Or the Texas Tornado body with white tights? Because as far as I'm aware we've just seen the proto with the symbols from the white tights on the blue trunks version Sadly, no. I think someone owns them and is not releasing them. I would like to see those. It would have been awesome if they made the jumper with white tights for series 6 and had the series 6 release for series 9. I always wondered why the changed the series 6 Tatanka from a jumper to tornado's body and Berzerker from tornado's body to Hacksaw's. I dunno, but I think the Tornado body was ideal for Tatanka. I can't picture him as a jumper. Weren't they at one point going to include a sword with Berzerker? Utilizing the open hand Duggan had for the board. I know in one of the proto images Berzerker is holding the board, but that doesn't really make sense.
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Post by MKSavage on Mar 26, 2019 14:12:00 GMT -5
Sadly, no. I think someone owns them and is not releasing them. I would like to see those. It would have been awesome if they made the jumper with white tights for series 6 and had the series 6 release for series 9. I always wondered why the changed the series 6 Tatanka from a jumper to tornado's body and Berzerker from tornado's body to Hacksaw's. I dunno, but I think the Tornado body was ideal for Tatanka. I can't picture him as a jumper. Weren't they at one point going to include a sword with Berzerker? Utilizing the open hand Duggan had for the board. I know in one of the proto images Berzerker is holding the board, but that doesn't really make sense. I'm not sure about the sword (which would have been cool) but I have only seen sketches of him with Tornado's body mold. For Tatanka, I could see him as a jumper, one of his big moves originally was jumping off the top rope and delivering a chop (kind of like Steamboat). I think they may have went to Tornado's mold after he changed attires, his first attire didn't have the tassel's with the boots, I don't think any of the jumper molds had that. So to make his look more accurate they went with Tornado's mold.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2019 15:30:42 GMT -5
I dunno, but I think the Tornado body was ideal for Tatanka. I can't picture him as a jumper. Weren't they at one point going to include a sword with Berzerker? Utilizing the open hand Duggan had for the board. I know in one of the proto images Berzerker is holding the board, but that doesn't really make sense. I'm not sure about the sword (which would have been cool) but I have only seen sketches of him with Tornado's body mold. For Tatanka, I could see him as a jumper, one of his big moves originally was jumping off the top rope and delivering a chop (kind of like Steamboat). I think they may have went to Tornado's mold after he changed attires, his first attire didn't have the tassel's with the boots, I don't think any of the jumper molds had that. So to make his look more accurate they went with Tornado's mold. In that case I'm sure jumper Tatanka would have used Green Warrior's lower body.
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Post by master_fuji on Mar 26, 2019 16:03:35 GMT -5
I'm not sure about the sword (which would have been cool) but I have only seen sketches of him with Tornado's body mold. For Tatanka, I could see him as a jumper, one of his big moves originally was jumping off the top rope and delivering a chop (kind of like Steamboat). I think they may have went to Tornado's mold after he changed attires, his first attire didn't have the tassel's with the boots, I don't think any of the jumper molds had that. So to make his look more accurate they went with Tornado's mold. In that case I'm sure jumper Tatanka would have used Green Warrior's lower body. It was drawn using Koko B. Ware for the whole body.
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Post by Rebel23 on Mar 28, 2019 8:09:49 GMT -5
For those who haven't seen it. Glad they didn't run with this. In my opinion, Koko's mold would have been too chubby for Tatanka.
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