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Post by BØRNS on Mar 25, 2019 18:11:50 GMT -5
Last year many, if not most of us, would have bet we'd see Daniel Bryan vs. The Miz at this year's WrestleMania. This has been a match that fans wanted ever since Bryan returned to action, and we had a few of them around SummerSlam time and a mixed tag match as couples.
With a heel Daniel Bryan as the WWE Champion, and a face Miz, it'd be a perfect inversion of their roles. Plus, the Miz hasn't been WWE Champion (or any world champion for that matter) in 8 years. Once they started the Miz-Shane pairing it was clear the direction, but that started in December. Why do you think WWE decided to pass up this match? Would you have rather they booked this? Do you actually care about Miz vs. Shane?
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Post by Planktung on Mar 25, 2019 18:16:53 GMT -5
Bryan will still be heel after WrestleMania, and Miz will still be face. There is plenty of time to do the angle and allow both guys more time to embrace their roles that are still relatively fresh. Kofi and Shane respectively are better foils for who Bryan and Miz are at this point in time rather than each other. The angle will be revisited someday.
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Post by Triple S on Mar 25, 2019 18:19:57 GMT -5
They had they’re payoff at SummerSlam.
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Post by rkmo: 9 Month Warning on Mar 25, 2019 19:11:06 GMT -5
First of all, hated the idea of a Bryan-Miz feud now. I have been saying for the last couple years that Miz's work should have earned a World Championship run by now. But not at the expense of Bryan. It just diminishes the story they've crafted. After all those years of Bryan working as a face from the indies striving to overcome the arrogant heel with movie-star good looks that was installed as a better "superstar" by the system, and how reluctant the establishment seemed to even let Bryan go over. Daniel taking the US Championship from Miz seemed hollow because Miz went on to cash-in and main event Mania 27 while Bryan couldn't even make the main card challenging Sheamus to reclaim it. And how with the roles reversed, Miz ends up back on top at Bryan's expense? Never felt right to me.
As for this year's Wrestlemania, I had thought for sure Daniel Bryan would be facing Miz or Shane (with the outside chance of John Cena just because). And once they won the Tag belts together, I did suggest Bryan and Rowan challenge Miz-Shane for the titles at Mania with Bryan dropping the World Championship beforehand to either Styles or Orton to add fuel to that match. Condense 3 matches down to 2, save a tad bit of time in a hella crowded card. But I suppose Vince's crazy pills have worn off and has reallocated his "bigger is ALWAYS better" mantra from the talents to the shows themselves.
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Post by Rated [R] NinJa on Mar 25, 2019 21:33:22 GMT -5
They had they’re payoff at SummerSlam. This. And also at Super Show-Down and both matches proved that they shouldn't headline a WrestleMania.
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Post by BØRNS on Mar 25, 2019 22:22:14 GMT -5
They had they’re payoff at SummerSlam. This. And also at Super Show-Down and both matches proved that they shouldn't headline a WrestleMania. Miz used Maryse to cheat at SummerSlam, that was no payoff. And the Super Showdown match was 2 minutes!
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Post by Rated [R] NinJa on Mar 25, 2019 22:24:08 GMT -5
This. And also at Super Show-Down and both matches proved that they shouldn't headline a WrestleMania. Miz used Maryse to cheat at SummerSlam, that was no payoff. And the Super Showdown match was 2 minutes! No idea, that’s how memorable Bryan/Miz matches are 🤷🏽♂️
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Post by PJ on Mar 26, 2019 6:10:11 GMT -5
I have never once cared for Shane as an in ring competitor. So anyone in Shane’s spot would be better for me.
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Post by The Kevstaaa on Mar 26, 2019 8:11:57 GMT -5
They had they’re payoff at SummerSlam. This. And also at Super Show-Down and both matches proved that they shouldn't headline a WrestleMania. Their SummerSlam match was one of the best matches of last year. Incredible storytelling.
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Post by ahunter8056 on Mar 26, 2019 9:01:35 GMT -5
Throughout most of 2018, I fully expected Daniel Bryan VS The Miz at WrestleMania 35. I genuinely still do not understand why they've gone with Shane McMahon VS The Miz. There is absolutely no need for Shane to even have a match at WrestleMania, let alone pass up the potentially final match in the Daniel Bryan VS The Miz saga.
Of course creative screwed up Bryan VS Miz by turning Bryan heel, given that the whole point of Bryan VS Miz was that Bryan was the face and Miz was the heel.
I think passing up Daniel Bryan VS The Miz at WrestleMania was a mistake, just as I believe turning Daniel Bryan heel was a mistake.
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Post by rkmo: 9 Month Warning on Mar 26, 2019 10:51:43 GMT -5
Throughout most of 2018, I fully expected Daniel Bryan VS The Miz at WrestleMania 35. I genuinely still do not understand why they've gone with Shane McMahon VS The Miz. There is absolutely no need for Shane to even have a match at WrestleMania, let alone pass up the potentially final match in the Daniel Bryan VS The Miz saga. Of course creative screwed up Bryan VS Miz by turning Bryan heel, given that the whole point of Bryan VS Miz was that Bryan was the face and Miz was the heel. I think passing up Daniel Bryan VS The Miz at WrestleMania was a mistake, just as I believe turning Daniel Bryan heel was a mistake. As I said in my post, I felt the whole reason Bryan turned heel to gain the title was so Miz or Shane or Cena could eventually go over at Wrestlemania. Guess Creative didn't have that strong an opinion with how fast Kofi rose to prominence. I've overall enjoyed the New Daniel Bryan run. Not that into him reversing the B+ label recently but it fits with the arc.
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Post by k5 on Mar 26, 2019 10:57:03 GMT -5
I have never once cared for Shane as an in ring competitor. So anyone in Shane’s spot would be better for me. yeah, he’s dreadful to watch and looks like a fish out of water half the time flopping around clasping for air. have no idea why he’d become a full time performer. drains his value and doesn’t do a damn thing for the show.
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Post by hbkbigdaddycool on Mar 26, 2019 12:10:09 GMT -5
The Daniel Bryan vs. Miz feud was destroyed right when Bryan was cleared to wrestle.
After everything between them for those few years, they should have had Bryan invade Raw, and attack Miz during one of his matches. They supposedly 'hated' each other so much, that a brand split at first shouldn't have stopped Bryan from getting at him, and vice versa.
Then in their fist match, Bryan should have gotten disqualified right off the bat for beating the crap out of Miz.
They could have had that feud be so much more, but nope! Instead bring Maryse and Brie into it, which nobody cared to see. That was like a flashback to the old diva era of wrestling.
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Post by greenjack1992 on Mar 26, 2019 12:52:59 GMT -5
Miz should have won the men's MITB and cashed it in on Bryan to set up a match at 'Mania.
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Post by marino13 on Mar 26, 2019 18:36:39 GMT -5
Had Miz turned face months prior, I think it could have worked. But he's just now starting to pick up steam. So it'd feel rushed and fans might reject it like they did the first time Miz turned face. I'm sure we haven't seen the last of Miz vs Bryan.
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Post by HandsomeHollywood on Mar 26, 2019 21:24:17 GMT -5
They had they’re payoff at SummerSlam. I mostly agree. It was anticlimactic though, as they seem to love leaving things hanging so they can constantly go back to the well. We see this with Owens and Zayn, to a lesser extent with Harper and Rowan, and I bet we will see with Gargano and Ciampa. I don't think it's done. They'll come back to it. Miz gaining fan support kind of put a stop to it for a bit, but now they can do it again with heel Bryan. Just a matter of time I think. The scourge of 50/50 booking.
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Post by hbkowns on Mar 26, 2019 22:10:10 GMT -5
That program only had legs for so long based on the way they booked it. They should have had a program after wrestlemania right out of the gate, but they stuck Bryan with Big F*cking Cass and killed all of his momentum. Then they finally did the Miz/Bryan match when everyone was least interested, then they got their wives involved and then they killed it.
They could have realistically gotten a year long buildup if they booked it correctly but they somehow were able to ruin it instantly.
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