Sting
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Post by Sting on Apr 2, 2019 3:37:50 GMT -5
One of those ladies who is main eventing Wrestlemania, who has only one mainline Elite figure, is still sat on the shelves at bargain stores in the UK 2 years after it came out I admire the passion of the hardcore women collectors, but outside of that bubble there’s just not this enormous demand Tbh that Becky (I assume) and Charlotte were not that great. When they release "THE MAN" she will sell tons. That's the one I'm waiting for. Really hope they do a great job with her |
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Post by CampCornette on Apr 2, 2019 5:05:44 GMT -5
 I thought this post was going to be about some members lovelifes |
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Post by PJ on Apr 2, 2019 6:08:37 GMT -5
My local Walmart has plenty of Basic 90(?)Carmella & Basic 91 Bliss figures to go along with Ron of Basic Series Aiden English figures. 4 pegs filled of those three figures.
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Post by hitmancmedge on Apr 2, 2019 6:08:56 GMT -5
There is no lack of women c’mon. They have a lot of wrestlers to get out and not a lot of slots. if they can’t fit ONE women but can 5/6 guys, that’s a problem . When there are 5 - 6 male wrestlers for every 1 female wrestler in reality then then lineups are accurate. This really doesn’t feel like the hill to die on. They seem to do a good job. Honestly what main roster women don’t have a figure yet or on the way? The Iiconics, Lacey Evans, and Zelina Vega? Seems like they have nailed the roster pretty well. |
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Daniel F'n Bryan
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Post by Daniel F'n Bryan on Apr 2, 2019 12:10:59 GMT -5
Anyone remember when we would get a woman every 5+ Basic series and there were no women elites hahaha. We’ve come along way since then. I don’t think there is a lack whatsoever
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Post by SmithyPlayz on Apr 2, 2019 12:46:07 GMT -5
We're not missing too many women for first time releases, IIconics, Kairi Sane, Sarah Logan, Bianca Belair maybe. To be honest I get annoyed more at the attire choices, Maryse in Nikki Bella attire before or just after we got an exclusive in wrestling attire was a bit annoying, 3 Lana's and none in wrestling attire is also annoying especially when none of them sold well or at least they rotted near me. I know why but 2 Ronda's and none in wrestling attire is also annoying. But I think for women figures there's plenty out there to build a solid women's division
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FUSamBaker
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Biggest crush on Sami Zayn.
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Post by FUSamBaker on Apr 2, 2019 17:47:35 GMT -5
I’d love to see some new faces both this generation and from the past. I mean c’mon after 20 years it would be awesome to see Sable. Especially one in gear.
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captaintriumph
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Post by captaintriumph on Apr 3, 2019 19:51:24 GMT -5
Seems to me it’s not a lack of women as much as it’s a lack of releasing previous shown women's figures.
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Post by SteveHulk on Apr 4, 2019 0:04:55 GMT -5
Some counter-points, my friend... I, personally, just think they don't know what to do with their women figures at the moment. They're having a small dilemma here. First, when the figure world was alright. Basic women figures were amazing (-faces). They basically were just like elite figures. Ab crunch, all articulations (-double knee but they still don't even have that on elite because of one future reason*) and cool shoulder joints that even allows the arms to move to angles where men figures still dream off, specially AJ Styles who is unable to do his pose, lol.
Then they thought that's too good for basics and got rid of all the good articulations and they are basically crap now.To be fair, Mattel had to do this due to rising costs... they wanted the price for Basics to remain the same, so cut some of the articulation across the whole Basic/Battlepack lines (not just the women). Switchable heads for women Elites was never a "standard" thing though... only Nia Jax (and the Milk-o-mania Steph) had them. And Nia is a very recent figure... how do we know there won't be more female Elites with switchable heads in the future? And the Elite Nia Jax and Ultimate Edition Ronda Rousey aren't really comparable - as well as the extra heads, the UE Ronda also has extra articulation, extra hands, extra arms, the jacket piece and a skirt... it would never have been a regular $20 Elite with all those. We pay more for the UE Ronda as we get more. A cloth dress actually...  - similar to Miss Elizabeth's cloth dress and Charlotte Flair's cloth robe. I just think you're been rather harsh... looking at past female Elite figures, there doesn't seem to be any drop in quality - they've always come with either a belt/accessory or a dress/entrance gear (...heck the Elite AJ Lee just came with a necklace!). So sure, they may not have a spare set of hands like the men (...does the Sherri figure actually need a spare set of hands?), but the Elite standard for female figures still seems pretty much the same as it's always been. |
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Edge Sangral
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Post by Edge Sangral on Apr 4, 2019 1:19:02 GMT -5
Yeah sure, but since they got rid of the cardboard backgrounds, every single male figure got extra hands as a accessory, in replacement to the cardboard. They actually weren't cheaping out here for once and gave us something as replacement.
Minus the woman, they got nothing more.
And yes, you are right that some figures in the past already came with just a clothing part, so does men figures, but since they left the cardboard backgrounds out, they always gave us one extra part and it feels weird that the women doesn't get anything.
To the head part that heads weren't a standard and we don't know if more come, sure, stand today, you're basically right.
But still, it just feels that they gave us the heads with Nia in replacement for the brand new hands that the men got at that point and then they announced Ultimate, also with heads and the heads in the elite line were never seen again. The timeframe of everything is almost too perfect to just be accidental. I'm pretty good in analysing stuff and it literally feels like, that once they saw how good the idea was with changeable heads and then developed a more expensive line that they immediately scrapped them from elite to make it a main feature of Ultimate.
Sure we will never get a confirmation about that, but I can almost guarantee you that this was the case. It just makes sense. You need big cool gimmicks that the other line doesn't have and this is one of them. This one is perfect.
It would be dumb business wise to not do that, to be honest.
Otherwise they would have made at least one changeable head for Sherri as second accessory, it just makes sense.
Yes, the Charlotte Elite also came with just a cloth attire, but that example is lacking, you can't really count her, that was a different time, before they got rid of the backgrounds and before they added the hands.
Nia was the first woman they released since adding the hands, wasn't she? So, it just makes sense and everything I said fits perfectly into my theory.
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Post by SteveHulk on Apr 4, 2019 2:30:30 GMT -5
To the head part that heads weren't a standard and we don't know if more come, sure, stand today, you're basically right. But still, it just feels that they gave us the heads with Nia in replacement for the brand new hands that the men got at that point and then they announced Ultimate, also with heads and the heads in the elite line were never seen again. The timeframe of everything is almost too perfect to just be accidental. I'm pretty good in analysing stuff and it literally feels like, that once they saw how good the idea was with changeable heads and then developed a more expensive line that they immediately scrapped them from elite to make it a main feature of Ultimate. Sure we will never get a confirmation about that, but I can almost guarantee you that this was the case. It just makes sense. You need big cool gimmicks that the other line doesn't have and this is one of them. This one is perfect. It would be dumb business wise to not do that, to be honest. I think the extra heads for Nia Jax was mainly due to the fact that two of her heads had already been made/tooled (for her previous 2 Basics), so it was fairly easy and cost-effective to include them.... the only "new" accessory was actually her third/new head (which she would probably have had anyway). I doubt very much they would have included three heads if all those heads were brand new and they had to sculpt/make them all from scratch. So Nia seems to me to be more of a one-off than anything... they already had two heads made/sculpted for her, so could easily include them. I disagree... making/sculpting a brand new extra head for Sherri would probably have put her way over budget. Heads are far more detailed and expensive to produce than a couple of hands (where they already have all the molds and are quite cheap/easy to make and include). I believe it was Nia and Ronda (for Elite 65) with Sherri being the chase figure. And also around that time, they would have been working on the E66 Nikki Cross and E67 Shayna Baszler.... they can't include spare hands with them "as standard" (like with the men), but I honestly don't think this would/will affect their sales: the E65 Ronda comes with a contract, pen and a breakaway table with cloth cover; the E66 Nikki Cross has a plastic vest/top, entrance jacket, hoodie and shades; the E67 Shayna Baszler has a towel and title-belt. They're all decent figures (IMO) and I think Mattel are doing the best they can, given their budget. |
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Post by Xæro #FakeCollector on Apr 4, 2019 2:42:31 GMT -5
The female figures peg warm in my area like it's going out of style, so selfishly I'd be fine with less of them  |
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Edge Sangral
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Post by Edge Sangral on Apr 4, 2019 2:56:45 GMT -5
I agree with most what you said, but disagree with Shayna. She's a disgrace for Mattel figures, a dumpster fire trash figure with awfully cheap upper part/ab crunch/chest and a f'n male NXT title. They were too cheap to make her a new mold (or just use one of the plenty they had with invisible ab crunch) and they were also too cheap to make her a new title and gave her, seriously, just the male title instead because, that's almost the same right? Why making a new title for the women then, that's good enough right. I'm still extremely pissed of about this sexist piece of figure and that this just doesn't get the critique it deserves. By the way, does the "which mold should they have used for Shayna without making a new one" even work here? Is this thing not a new, awful, mold in the first place? Can't remember at least that I ever saw such a bad ab crunch on a woman figure before. And yes, I see your argument of different heads being too expensive, you have a point, buuuuuuut, too bad we're talking about Sherri in that discussion because you could've easily give her a second head with either just another face paint or just no face paint, that would have been perfect for her, you don't need a different head here at all.  But yeah, I see this point with other figures, but I still think one different head at least could be doable, specially if nothing else is in the package, but yeah, I can see why maybe not even that. |
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Post by JC Motors on Apr 4, 2019 18:16:06 GMT -5
I only collect the Women's figures anymore. So I do see where you are going at. Making Liv Morgan a chase exclusive was a bad idea. Some of the latest women's figures aren't the greatest, I'm looking at you B86 Charlotte and B89 Carmella. They are quite behind on some of the women's figures such as Kari Sane, Maria Kanellis and other NXT women. Heck they never bothered to make a JoJo figure. She's been with the company since Total Diva's started. They made countless Stephanie McMahon's. That one elite she had warmed shelves like crazy, 3 of her basics were suited repaints.
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vashts
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Post by vashts on Apr 5, 2019 19:47:15 GMT -5
Female figures do not sell across the board. SOrry lack of interest is why.
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airbud
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"Attack me if you dare, I will crush you."
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Post by airbud on Apr 5, 2019 20:36:32 GMT -5
I don’t own a single female Mattel figure.
I had a rubber jakks Chyna when I was a kid though.
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budbundy
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Post by budbundy on Apr 6, 2019 7:53:10 GMT -5
Little boys don't buy women figures. Collectors do. And collectors don't make up the market. Someone reading this thinking "I collect and I don't have a single woman" and to you I say your collection sucks.
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Post by LA Times on Apr 6, 2019 8:13:58 GMT -5
Bud Bundy posting in a thread titled lack of women? Oh the irony
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Post by PJ on Apr 6, 2019 10:18:16 GMT -5
Today at the Monroe NY Walmart they had...
E66 Sherri
E66 Ronda x2
E66 Nia
B92 Mandy x4
B92 Bliss 1 or 2
B(?) Carmella
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*Kassle*
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Post by *Kassle* on Apr 7, 2019 16:18:06 GMT -5
I need a relevant Mandy Rose. With a headscan is actually sized appropriately to her body. Why they did a shorter/curlier haired version when her look (since Day 1) has almost always been long straight hair is weird af to me.
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