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Post by alphadeltaxray on Sept 15, 2019 21:26:44 GMT -5
Have on order Powers of Pain, Bad News Brown and black trunks Warrior (warrior 2 repaint). Figures that should have been released as part of the Hasbro line and the guys Mattel should have focused on. Among several others, you're so right
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Post by drnickriviera995 on Sept 16, 2019 7:46:56 GMT -5
Figures that should have been released as part of the Hasbro line and the guys Mattel should have focused on. Among several others, you're so right Instead we got "Old"Berg, LJN era, Attitude era but mostly modern era. Poor distribution/retailers and now it's dead.
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Post by alphadeltaxray on Sept 16, 2019 8:37:53 GMT -5
Among several others, you're so right Instead we got "Old"Berg, LJN era, Attitude era but mostly modern era. Poor distribution/retailers and now it's dead. Wouldn't have minded Goldberg as much if they didn't make him a jumper.
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Post by RedDevil on Sept 16, 2019 18:02:06 GMT -5
TBF to Mattel, during the run they did give us: purple Undertaker, green trunks Macho Man, an improved Ric Flair, Goldust and Diesel, who were all big wants from the Hasbro line I’d say. Series 2 seems to be widely regarded as the best of them all, and the figures of Sheik and JYD seemed to be the stand-out sellers of their respective waves on Ringside at least, so dabbling into those eras seemed successful on the face of it - I certainly appreciated them being included.
The problem for us I think was that half (at least) of the figures released were current guys, which old bastards like us clearly weren’t listing in our top 10 Retro wants, but we had to accept that Mattel were clearly trying to hook today’s kids on the line rather than just us middle-aged kids. If they’d succeeded with that then that would’ve been good for the future of the line, but that was probably not realistic when you can’t build any sort of momentum for the line when you had like 6 months between certain waves, and with the main retailers only stocking one or max two waves at a time when other waves are sitting in warehouses somewhere, but then again I don’t know about retail...
I’d hope that if Mattel do relaunch the line then the focus will move directly onto us as the obvious target audience for the line, but I fear we’re not big enough to justify the effort. Hopefully AFA can work some magic for us!
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Post by drnickriviera995 on Sept 16, 2019 20:14:43 GMT -5
TBF to Mattel, during the run they did give us: purple Undertaker, green trunks Macho Man, an improved Ric Flair, Goldust and Diesel, who were all big wants from the Hasbro line I’d say. Series 2 seems to be widely regarded as the best of them all, and the figures of Sheik and JYD seemed to be the stand-out sellers of their respective waves on Ringside at least, so dabbling into those eras seemed successful on the face of it - I certainly appreciated them being included. The problem for us I think was that half (at least) of the figures released were current guys, which old bastards like us clearly weren’t listing in our top 10 Retro wants, but we had to accept that Mattel were clearly trying to hook today’s kids on the line rather than just us middle-aged kids. If they’d succeeded with that then that would’ve been good for the future of the line, but that was probably not realistic when you can’t build any sort of momentum for the line when you had like 6 months between certain waves, and with the main retailers only stocking one or max two waves at a time when other waves are sitting in warehouses somewhere, but then again I don’t know about retail... I’d hope that if Mattel do relaunch the line then the focus will move directly onto us as the obvious target audience for the line, but I fear we’re not big enough to justify the effort. Hopefully AFA can work some magic for us! Or simply don't produce so many of any particular set. And up each set to 8 per set. Problem was S3 and S7 were so overstocked that nothing else could come in while the old stock was sitting on pegs for 6 months or more.
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Post by MKSavage on Sept 16, 2019 20:43:37 GMT -5
TBF to Mattel, during the run they did give us: purple Undertaker, green trunks Macho Man, an improved Ric Flair, Goldust and Diesel, who were all big wants from the Hasbro line I’d say. Series 2 seems to be widely regarded as the best of them all, and the figures of Sheik and JYD seemed to be the stand-out sellers of their respective waves on Ringside at least, so dabbling into those eras seemed successful on the face of it - I certainly appreciated them being included. The problem for us I think was that half (at least) of the figures released were current guys, which old bastards like us clearly weren’t listing in our top 10 Retro wants, but we had to accept that Mattel were clearly trying to hook today’s kids on the line rather than just us middle-aged kids. If they’d succeeded with that then that would’ve been good for the future of the line, but that was probably not realistic when you can’t build any sort of momentum for the line when you had like 6 months between certain waves, and with the main retailers only stocking one or max two waves at a time when other waves are sitting in warehouses somewhere, but then again I don’t know about retail... I’d hope that if Mattel do relaunch the line then the focus will move directly onto us as the obvious target audience for the line, but I fear we’re not big enough to justify the effort. Hopefully AFA can work some magic for us! Or simply don't produce so many of any particular set. And up each set to 8 per set. Problem was S3 and S7 were so overstocked that nothing else could come in while the old stock was sitting on pegs for 6 months or more. I still see S3 on pegs at some targets around here.
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Post by alphadeltaxray on Sept 16, 2019 21:41:33 GMT -5
TBF to Mattel, during the run they did give us: purple Undertaker, green trunks Macho Man, an improved Ric Flair, Goldust and Diesel, who were all big wants from the Hasbro line I’d say. Series 2 seems to be widely regarded as the best of them all, and the figures of Sheik and JYD seemed to be the stand-out sellers of their respective waves on Ringside at least, so dabbling into those eras seemed successful on the face of it - I certainly appreciated them being included. The problem for us I think was that half (at least) of the figures released were current guys, which old bastards like us clearly weren’t listing in our top 10 Retro wants, but we had to accept that Mattel were clearly trying to hook today’s kids on the line rather than just us middle-aged kids. If they’d succeeded with that then that would’ve been good for the future of the line, but that was probably not realistic when you can’t build any sort of momentum for the line when you had like 6 months between certain waves, and with the main retailers only stocking one or max two waves at a time when other waves are sitting in warehouses somewhere, but then again I don’t know about retail... I’d hope that if Mattel do relaunch the line then the focus will move directly onto us as the obvious target audience for the line, but I fear we’re not big enough to justify the effort. Hopefully AFA can work some magic for us! This is worded brilliantly. I think you just said exactly what most of us adult collectors have been feeling all along. Who wanted 2 Kevin Owens Retros? Sami Zayn? Zack Ryder? (I like Ryder and no offense towards him, but a retro?) Those all could have been replaced with the likes of Jeff Jarrett, maybe a better version of Rick Rude, Ted DiBiase, Jim Neidhart, the list goes on. And you are 1000% right about the flashback/legends figures being the biggest hits. Always hard to find and usually sold out rather quickly. And I am sure Mattel knows we are their biggest fans when it comes to retros, but like you said, from Mattel's standpoint, if kids ain't buyin' then why bother? I've always believed that Mattel should have 1 or 2 lines made for adult collectors. If it were up to me then i would make it 6 retro figs per series, maybe 3 legends, 3 current. I would include more accessories for some, female wrestlers, and definitely tag teams. But most importantly I would release maybe 3 series' per year. Every 4 months sounds about right. That way stores aren't passing on every other series and we aren't pre-ordering series 3 when series 2 just got released 5 days before. All that being said, do you guys really think they will bring these back at some point? I just have a funny feeling that they won't and it will be all but forgotten about. But this is one thing I hope I am wrong about.
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Post by alphadeltaxray on Sept 16, 2019 21:44:04 GMT -5
TBF to Mattel, during the run they did give us: purple Undertaker, green trunks Macho Man, an improved Ric Flair, Goldust and Diesel, who were all big wants from the Hasbro line I’d say. Series 2 seems to be widely regarded as the best of them all, and the figures of Sheik and JYD seemed to be the stand-out sellers of their respective waves on Ringside at least, so dabbling into those eras seemed successful on the face of it - I certainly appreciated them being included. The problem for us I think was that half (at least) of the figures released were current guys, which old bastards like us clearly weren’t listing in our top 10 Retro wants, but we had to accept that Mattel were clearly trying to hook today’s kids on the line rather than just us middle-aged kids. If they’d succeeded with that then that would’ve been good for the future of the line, but that was probably not realistic when you can’t build any sort of momentum for the line when you had like 6 months between certain waves, and with the main retailers only stocking one or max two waves at a time when other waves are sitting in warehouses somewhere, but then again I don’t know about retail... I’d hope that if Mattel do relaunch the line then the focus will move directly onto us as the obvious target audience for the line, but I fear we’re not big enough to justify the effort. Hopefully AFA can work some magic for us! Or simply don't produce so many of any particular set. And up each set to 8 per set. Problem was S3 and S7 were so overstocked that nothing else could come in while the old stock was sitting on pegs for 6 months or more. Hasbros were 6 per series, right? Or was it 8?
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Post by punksnotdead on Sept 17, 2019 10:32:54 GMT -5
Or simply don't produce so many of any particular set. And up each set to 8 per set. Problem was S3 and S7 were so overstocked that nothing else could come in while the old stock was sitting on pegs for 6 months or more. Hasbros were 6 per series, right? Or was it 8? Hasbro was all over the place. 12, 10, 11, 9, 7. They did a four wave stretch where they did 6 figures per set, which was the closest they came to consistent. When I was a kid going to TRU, there were like 40 different figures to pick from with the Hasbros at any one given time. The aisle had a section of floor to ceiling Hasbro figures in 1992/1993.
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Post by MKSavage on Sept 17, 2019 10:49:58 GMT -5
Or simply don't produce so many of any particular set. And up each set to 8 per set. Problem was S3 and S7 were so overstocked that nothing else could come in while the old stock was sitting on pegs for 6 months or more. Hasbros were 6 per series, right? Or was it 8? They varied. Series breakdown: 1 = 12 2 = 15 (would have been 16 if R&B Hammer came out) 3 = 16 (could be 12, some consider the Nasty Boys and LOD as Series 4) 4 = 4 (could be 8, some consider the Nasty Boys and LOD in this series) 5 = 10 6 = 6 7 = 6 8 = 6 9 = 6 10 = 8 (10 if you count the series 7 re-releases of Shawn and Razor that came on the series 10 blue card) 11 = 7
The way the series' are broken down above is the best known way of separating the figures, some say there were more series and some say there were less. For instance, what we consider Series 1 (12 figures) was released in two waves (6 figures arrived on shelves first then a little while later the next 6 figures arrived on shelves), so some consider Series 1 to be Series 1 (first 6 figures) and Series 2 (the next six figures). Same thing happened with Series 3 and 4. Though, LOD, the Nasty Boys, and the Big Boss Man are all considered Series 3 (mainly because they are all listed on the back of the card with the other figures from that Series) however they didn't hit stores until about the same time that Series 4 started hitting stores, so some consider those figures to be a part of Series 4 instead of Series 3. In the WWF magazine that showed Series 5, 6, and 7 (Undertakem' All photo), it kind of listed them as the same series (1993) but they were released in waves (series 5 were released at the same time, series 6 were released at the same time, and series 7 were released at the same time) making it look like three different series instead of 1.
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Post by LA Times on Sept 17, 2019 11:04:25 GMT -5
Instead we got "Old"Berg, LJN era, Attitude era but mostly modern era. Poor distribution/retailers and now it's dead. Wouldn't have minded Goldberg as much if they didn't make him a jumper. The Gorilla Press action wouldve been more appropriate. Maybe the Jumper action was supposed to mimic a Spear but its kind of hard to pull off with the figure facing down.
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Post by RedDevil on Sept 17, 2019 14:43:10 GMT -5
TBF to Mattel, during the run they did give us: purple Undertaker, green trunks Macho Man, an improved Ric Flair, Goldust and Diesel, who were all big wants from the Hasbro line I’d say. Series 2 seems to be widely regarded as the best of them all, and the figures of Sheik and JYD seemed to be the stand-out sellers of their respective waves on Ringside at least, so dabbling into those eras seemed successful on the face of it - I certainly appreciated them being included. The problem for us I think was that half (at least) of the figures released were current guys, which old bastards like us clearly weren’t listing in our top 10 Retro wants, but we had to accept that Mattel were clearly trying to hook today’s kids on the line rather than just us middle-aged kids. If they’d succeeded with that then that would’ve been good for the future of the line, but that was probably not realistic when you can’t build any sort of momentum for the line when you had like 6 months between certain waves, and with the main retailers only stocking one or max two waves at a time when other waves are sitting in warehouses somewhere, but then again I don’t know about retail... I’d hope that if Mattel do relaunch the line then the focus will move directly onto us as the obvious target audience for the line, but I fear we’re not big enough to justify the effort. Hopefully AFA can work some magic for us! Or simply don't produce so many of any particular set. And up each set to 8 per set. Problem was S3 and S7 were so overstocked that nothing else could come in while the old stock was sitting on pegs for 6 months or more. I'd love to know how many they produced of each series, particularly after the app was added. I can't believe that Mattel themselves decided to produce so many more of series 3 than they appeared to produce of series 4 or 5, especially as they must've expected Ric Flair and Macho Man to be in demand from the older fans, and New Day obviously would've been ideal for kids - it must be the retailers asking for more of that specific series, but given that they're still available at some Targets whilst series 4 and 5 have both been through the discount chains then the production numbers for the three series must be very imbalanced. I could see Walmart and Target maybe ordering extras after the early success when series 7 hit, but then I'd think it would be in the interests of both Mattel and the retailers to move onto series 8 in a timely manner rather than just getting in more and more of the same four guys, but as I say I don't understand retail clearly The fact that both the UK online retailers have reported that Mattel didn't fully fulfill their orders of series 9 or 10 suggests Mattel dramatically cut down on production numbers for those two series, especially since they're very unlikely to ever see a Walmart or Target. That alone might be all the evidence we need that the line is done... TBF to Mattel, during the run they did give us: purple Undertaker, green trunks Macho Man, an improved Ric Flair, Goldust and Diesel, who were all big wants from the Hasbro line I’d say. Series 2 seems to be widely regarded as the best of them all, and the figures of Sheik and JYD seemed to be the stand-out sellers of their respective waves on Ringside at least, so dabbling into those eras seemed successful on the face of it - I certainly appreciated them being included. The problem for us I think was that half (at least) of the figures released were current guys, which old bastards like us clearly weren’t listing in our top 10 Retro wants, but we had to accept that Mattel were clearly trying to hook today’s kids on the line rather than just us middle-aged kids. If they’d succeeded with that then that would’ve been good for the future of the line, but that was probably not realistic when you can’t build any sort of momentum for the line when you had like 6 months between certain waves, and with the main retailers only stocking one or max two waves at a time when other waves are sitting in warehouses somewhere, but then again I don’t know about retail... I’d hope that if Mattel do relaunch the line then the focus will move directly onto us as the obvious target audience for the line, but I fear we’re not big enough to justify the effort. Hopefully AFA can work some magic for us! This is worded brilliantly. I think you just said exactly what most of us adult collectors have been feeling all along. Who wanted 2 Kevin Owens Retros? Sami Zayn? Zack Ryder? (I like Ryder and no offense towards him, but a retro?) Those all could have been replaced with the likes of Jeff Jarrett, maybe a better version of Rick Rude, Ted DiBiase, Jim Neidhart, the list goes on. And you are 1000% right about the flashback/legends figures being the biggest hits. Always hard to find and usually sold out rather quickly. And I am sure Mattel knows we are their biggest fans when it comes to retros, but like you said, from Mattel's standpoint, if kids ain't buyin' then why bother? I've always believed that Mattel should have 1 or 2 lines made for adult collectors. If it were up to me then i would make it 6 retro figs per series, maybe 3 legends, 3 current. I would include more accessories for some, female wrestlers, and definitely tag teams. But most importantly I would release maybe 3 series' per year. Every 4 months sounds about right. That way stores aren't passing on every other series and we aren't pre-ordering series 3 when series 2 just got released 5 days before. All that being said, do you guys really think they will bring these back at some point? I just have a funny feeling that they won't and it will be all but forgotten about. But this is one thing I hope I am wrong about. I'm a very pessimistic guy at the best of times, but I've not given-up on the line completely. That's based almost solely on the message from ActionFigureAttack/Corporate Steve; he's been very consistent about the line not being dead and that Mattel are looking at fixing it going forward, which certainly gives me hope. I have no doubt that he wants the line to continue, that he recognises that there is a market here that Mattel haven't quite hit, and has (for me anyway) the right kind of understanding of what the line should be and the guys that should be made, but whether that's enough I don't know. I think the Elite Squad guys want the line to continue, but I'm guessing there are people above them that make the decisions on things like that. I don't know enough about how Mattel usually deal with fans when other lines have ended, but contrast the message on the Retros being on hiatus while they work things out compared to the message on the Retrofest line which is more that the line is done (with a vague chance of possibly revisiting at some point) - the latter sounds a lot more final than anything we've heard about the Retros. But the more time passes, the more hope dies I like your idea of having two specific adult collector lines - the Ultimate Editions and the Retros would seem to be the obvious choices for that given the price of the former and the obvious target market of the latter; but maybe we're overestimating the adult collector market. Hasbros were 6 per series, right? Or was it 8? Hasbro was all over the place. 12, 10, 11, 9, 7. They did a four wave stretch where they did 6 figures per set, which was the closest they came to consistent. When I was a kid going to TRU, there were like 40 different figures to pick from with the Hasbros at any one given time. The aisle had a section of floor to ceiling Hasbro figures in 1992/1993. Ahh, the memories
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Post by RedDevil on Sept 18, 2019 9:05:26 GMT -5
To update on the series 10 stock situation in the UK, Wrestling Shop tweeted today that they have sold-out of their second delivery that they only received yesterday, despite limiting purchases to one set per customer. The tweet also said that they were going through the orders to enforce that one-per-customer policy and release any stock that that frees-up to those still waiting.
Toys and Masks had some more of series 10 in a little while ago and have sold them out as well.
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Post by drnickriviera995 on Sept 18, 2019 9:40:42 GMT -5
Hasbros were 6 per series, right? Or was it 8? Hasbro was all over the place. 12, 10, 11, 9, 7. They did a four wave stretch where they did 6 figures per set, which was the closest they came to consistent. When I was a kid going to TRU, there were like 40 different figures to pick from with the Hasbros at any one given time. The aisle had a section of floor to ceiling Hasbro figures in 1992/1993. They were never actually 12 or 10 per what we think of today as a series. We assigned the title "series 1" to the first 12, but in reality they were 2 waves of 6 guys each. Same with S2, S3 and S5 being split into 2 assortments of 5 or 6 per set. You can see how they were broken out if you google search the toyfair/Hasbro catalog images. So I think on the average they intended for 6 per assortment/wave. But it would vary if plans fell through for a guy or two because of leaving the company, changing gimmicks etc. But, the cases weren't 8 per case, I think maybe more like 24 per case? So 4-5 of each figure typically in a box? Someone else may know for certain. But, even then, there are boxes that have surfaced w/ all of one particular figure. So who knows what was going on really. It would be fascinating to know more if someone who kept track of that stuff back then would ever come forward and talk in depth about it.
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Post by drnickriviera995 on Sept 18, 2019 9:47:23 GMT -5
Hasbros were 6 per series, right? Or was it 8? They varied. Series breakdown: 1 = 12 2 = 15 (would have been 16 if R&B Hammer came out) 3 = 16 (could be 12, some consider the Nasty Boys and LOD as Series 4) 4 = 4 (could be 8, some consider the Nasty Boys and LOD in this series) 5 = 10 6 = 6 7 = 6 8 = 6 9 = 6 10 = 8 (10 if you count the series 7 re-releases of Shawn and Razor that came on the series 10 blue card) 11 = 7
The way the series' are broken down above is the best known way of separating the figures, some say there were more series and some say there were less. For instance, what we consider Series 1 (12 figures) was released in two waves (6 figures arrived on shelves first then a little while later the next 6 figures arrived on shelves), so some consider Series 1 to be Series 1 (first 6 figures) and Series 2 (the next six figures). Same thing happened with Series 3 and 4. Though, LOD, the Nasty Boys, and the Big Boss Man are all considered Series 3 (mainly because they are all listed on the back of the card with the other figures from that Series) however they didn't hit stores until about the same time that Series 4 started hitting stores, so some consider those figures to be a part of Series 4 instead of Series 3. In the WWF magazine that showed Series 5, 6, and 7 (Undertakem' All photo), it kind of listed them as the same series (1993) but they were released in waves (series 5 were released at the same time, series 6 were released at the same time, and series 7 were released at the same time) making it look like three different series instead of 1. Perfect breakdown, sorry I missed this before my previous reply. But, just to add to your painstaking detail, Series 2 was also split into 2 assortments and Bossman, Jake, Brutus (and possibly Rude according to catalog images) were repacked into those sets. (believe Rude or maybe Dusty was replaced by Honky Tonk Man in later shipments and Hogan #1 got repacked into some of those shipments too at least later on after Dusty was removed. And now that I think of it, they must have shipped some complete cases of Honky too at some point. When I found him for the first time at a Kmart, he was the only figure on the peg, and it was loaded with just him. Series 3 also had Series 2 repacks to flush out to 6 per assortment (mainly Duggan and Piper I think)
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Post by drnickriviera995 on Sept 18, 2019 9:50:23 GMT -5
Or simply don't produce so many of any particular set. And up each set to 8 per set. Problem was S3 and S7 were so overstocked that nothing else could come in while the old stock was sitting on pegs for 6 months or more. I'd love to know how many they produced of each series, particularly after the app was added. I can't believe that Mattel themselves decided to produce so many more of series 3 than they appeared to produce of series 4 or 5, especially as they must've expected Ric Flair and Macho Man to be in demand from the older fans, and New Day obviously would've been ideal for kids - it must be the retailers asking for more of that specific series, but given that they're still available at some Targets whilst series 4 and 5 have both been through the discount chains then the production numbers for the three series must be very imbalanced. I could see Walmart and Target maybe ordering extras after the early success when series 7 hit, but then I'd think it would be in the interests of both Mattel and the retailers to move onto series 8 in a timely manner rather than just getting in more and more of the same four guys, but as I say I don't understand retail clearly I wonder with S7 when Walmart decided to pick up the line again, they looked at how much stock they sold of S1 and S2, and decided to order that. Not really being smart enough to know that with them available at Target and online retailers, they would only probably sell a fraction of what they had done when Walmart was the only option of buying them.
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I'd love to know how many they produced of each series, particularly after the app was added. I can't believe that Mattel themselves decided to produce so many more of series 3 than they appeared to produce of series 4 or 5, especially as they must've expected Ric Flair and Macho Man to be in demand from the older fans, and New Day obviously would've been ideal for kids - it must be the retailers asking for more of that specific series, but given that they're still available at some Targets whilst series 4 and 5 have both been through the discount chains then the production numbers for the three series must be very imbalanced. I could see Walmart and Target maybe ordering extras after the early success when series 7 hit, but then I'd think it would be in the interests of both Mattel and the retailers to move onto series 8 in a timely manner rather than just getting in more and more of the same four guys, but as I say I don't understand retail clearly I wonder with S7 when Walmart decided to pick up the line again, they looked at how much stock they sold of S1 and S2, and decided to order that. Not really being smart enough to know that with them available at Target and online retailers, they would only probably sell a fraction of what they had done when Walmart was the only option of buying them. It's really just a shame that S3 and S7 were so overstocked by retailers. If they hadn't sat, I think the line would have kept moving just fine. Whenever the in between sets like 4, 5, 6, 8 have showed up, they've sold fast. Just produce less, maybe 8 per set and 2 or 3 sets per year then. More options at the stores and they would move much much quicker. And just some slightly better choices for superstars and add a few new molds, and I think it's a winning formula. Kids were getting them, but from what I gather, it's mostly kids of guys that had Hasbro collections as kids. So there definatly is a market at least for the bigger modern names, but yeah, no need for 2nd KO (if they needed a quick repaint for a replacement another Warrior in a different color scheme would have been a smart move), Samy Zayn, Sheamus, modern HBK, modern Goldberg etc.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2019 10:00:18 GMT -5
On reflection I really think Mattel dropped the ball on these and they did so since series 1.
The Warrior release was a massive misstep, they reapropriated the green Hasbro attire despite ALL of the iconic attires Warrior has worn, and the mold was absolutely horrendous. The 2nd series was the best overall, but the fact they concentrated on the Attitude Era was odd, considering it was the Golden and New Gen eras that this line was made for. Surfer Sting, Brown Mankind, The RingMaster (or Stunning Steve), Rocky Maiavia and Hunter Hearst Helmsley would have been far more in keeping with Hasbro's lineage.
Everything after Series 3 has been an absolute disaster. Focusing on modern characters nobody cared about, poor distribution Sadly, Diesel included. As the face/hair objectively did not look like him.
By the end of this line I think the only real success was the Purple gloved Undertaker.
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Post by drnickriviera995 on Sept 18, 2019 10:05:57 GMT -5
On reflection I really think Mattel dropped the ball on these and they did so since series 1. The Warrior release was a massive misstep, they reapropriated the green Hasbro attire despite ALL of the iconic attires Warrior has worn, and the mold was absolutely horrendous. The 2nd series was the best overall, but the fact they concentrated on the Attitude Era was odd, considering it was the Golden and New Gen eras that this line was made for. Surfer Sting, Brown Mankind, The RingMaster (or Stunning Steve), Rocky Maiavia and Hunter Hearst Helmsley would have been far more in keeping with Hasbro's lineage. Everything after Series 3 has been an absolute disaster. Focusing on modern characters nobody cared about, poor distribution Sadly, Diesel included. As the face/hair objectively did not look like him. By the end of this line I think the only real success was the Purple gloved Undertaker. Yep, that Taker was a homerun! Correct attire that Hasbro should have made next, everything was molded correctly, nice looking stance. My #1 from the line. I think Goldust is #2, great figure for new gen era, and the damn mini boots they keep reusing weren't as bad since they blend into his tights pretty well. I like the most of the flashbacks they actually made, with the exception of the horrendous Warrior. But, they could have made much better decisions.
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Post by drnickriviera995 on Sept 18, 2019 10:11:57 GMT -5
On reflection I really think Mattel dropped the ball on these and they did so since series 1. Besides Warrior, I do think S1 (and S2) were all really well designed despite being some wrong character or attire choices. But, distribution was even messed up back with S1 because of the non-senseical case breakdowns. When they finally added Warrior and Taker to cases, they chose to put 3 of the horrible looking warriors and just 2 takers per set despite anyone with half a brain should have known taker would be wanted way more than that warrior. And also putting 2 Cenas per case too in those cases. I swear, if Walmart hadn't clearance them, we'd still see Warriors and Cenas sitting in stores.
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