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Post by showbizpizzabear81 on Apr 3, 2020 15:45:02 GMT -5
Wonder if the price for JYD will come down eventually. Still need to pick him, Matt Hardy and Orton up You know, if the value does change, it won't come down significantly imo. I have all of the Retros loose, and am only missing Flair MOC. I wanted to wait for the price to come down. Huge mistake.
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Post by Turnbuckle Zealot(Phil) on Apr 3, 2020 21:58:29 GMT -5
Wonder if the price for JYD will come down eventually. Still need to pick him, Matt Hardy and Orton up If I were you I would go ahead and snag Hardy and Orton from Ringside. I just bought three Zack Ryders(One to stay as is, two for customs) because they're the most affordable. .
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Post by Turnbuckle Zealot(Phil) on Apr 6, 2020 4:15:41 GMT -5
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Post by britishbrickfan on Apr 6, 2020 5:32:17 GMT -5
I think it's fair to say that when Mattel announced the line going into "hiatus", they meant for years....
if it ever does return, I doubt it will happen before 2022
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Post by Turnbuckle Zealot(Phil) on Apr 6, 2020 10:45:56 GMT -5
I think it's fair to say that when Mattel announced the line going into "hiatus", they meant for years.... if it ever does return, I doubt it will happen before 2022 That’s tough but I’ll be delighted to have it back at all.
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Post by dlbb on Apr 10, 2020 2:18:37 GMT -5
I think it's fair to say that when Mattel announced the line going into "hiatus", they meant for years.... if it ever does return, I doubt it will happen before 2022 That’s tough but I’ll be delighted to have it back at all. Should relaunch with nWo Hogan
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Post by Turnbuckle Zealot(Phil) on Apr 10, 2020 3:24:46 GMT -5
That’s tough but I’ll be delighted to have it back at all. Should relaunch with nWo Hogan I could see that becoming eBay scalper fodder, but so does most everything else is wrestling figure nerds enjoy. I could see a new head sculpt being mixed with the Ambrose top and a Kurt Angle lower body. Just paint app as needed and maybe a weight belt accessory. Jericho and Elias’s retros both set that precedent. Or just stick a new headsculpt on the rock retro body with proper paint changers
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Post by RedDevil on Apr 10, 2020 18:31:59 GMT -5
I think it's fair to say that when Mattel announced the line going into "hiatus", they meant for years.... if it ever does return, I doubt it will happen before 2022 2022 would be my earliest guess, though I wouldn’t put money on it. From the information we’ve had from Mattel (Action Figure Attack especially), it seems like to get the Retros out in 2021 would require an announcement at SDCC this year (if it happens). I’d think that unlikely; next year might be more realistic, meaning a 2022 relaunch. From what we’ve heard in general, it seems the line was dropped due to Target and Walmart not supporting it any more. Since it hasn’t been made a Ringside exclusive (officially, obviously it was basically that all along since Target and Walmart only bothered stocking one or two waves in stores) then I’m guessing the sales there weren’t strong enough for Ringside to take it on full-time, or to meet the numbers Mattel need to commission the full line on their own, I don’t know. But it seems like we’re waiting for one of Target or Walmart to accept them again before the line returns, so maybe 2022 would still be too early. If the survival of any return of the line rests on Walmart or Target, then I think we the fans really need to focus on buying them at whichever of those stores carries series 11. Even if Ringside get the waves in before them, we’d have to get them at Walmart/Target in the hope that those sales will be enough for them to continue the line. I’m including myself in this as a UK collector - both the online retailers here posted their support right after the hiatus was announced at SDCC 2019, but it made no difference. Both sold-out of the stock they received of series 9 and 10 immediately, but despite that they didn’t get their full orders of those series. Their demand couldn’t save the line, not even combined with Ringside selling-out of JYD, Diesel and others couldn’t save the line. Once Walmart and Target were out, the line was dead. So if series 11 makes it back with either or both Walmart/Target, then I will try to buy the figures from them, either direct on their websites if they are that cooperative (they probably won’t be, as we all know how they treat WWE stuff), or through contacts in the US. Despite it costing me a lot more with customs and shipping, I want the line to continue so that’s what I think would be the best thing I could do to help the line. The money I spent on them with the UK websites didn’t have the same value as if I’d bought them at Walmart. I did buy some extras of series 7 at Target last summer whilst visiting the US, but that was right before SDCC so it was already too late. If we want the line to survive a relaunch, we HAVE to concentrate buying them at Walmart/Target, including peg-warmers like the endless supplies of series 3 or the extra orders of series 7. It’s too late for that now of course, but if series 11 or 12 starts warming then we have to start buying them all up. Start customising or something
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Post by casanova on Apr 13, 2020 5:14:31 GMT -5
Anybody did a head switch with Roman Reigns? I really cannot see the poor Retro head anymore. The figure is great but the head needs an improvement...
Also would like to add a proper Rollins and Ambrose in their Shield attire. That would be a fantastic Retro set for Ringside btw. (Let’s forget that Ambrose signed to AEW)
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Post by Next Man’s Knowing Rock on Apr 13, 2020 21:21:22 GMT -5
Anybody did a head switch with Roman Reigns? I really cannot see the poor Retro head anymore. The figure is great but the head needs an improvement... Also would like to add a proper Rollins and Ambrose in their Shield attire. That would be a fantastic Retro set for Ringside btw. (Let’s forget that Ambrose signed to AEW) Yeah, Ambrose leaving stops it from happening officially, but on the bright side, Rollins and Ambrose are two of the easiest Retro figures to get hold of, and pretty easy to make Shield customs of. For Deano, paint his jeans black and slap an old basic/elite Shield vest on him. For Seth, just add the vest.
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Post by Turnbuckle Zealot(Phil) on Apr 13, 2020 21:53:25 GMT -5
Anybody did a head switch with Roman Reigns? I really cannot see the poor Retro head anymore. The figure is great but the head needs an improvement... Also would like to add a proper Rollins and Ambrose in their Shield attire. That would be a fantastic Retro set for Ringside btw. (Let’s forget that Ambrose signed to AEW) Yeah, Ambrose leaving stops it from happening officially, but on the bright side, Rollins and Ambrose are two of the easiest Retro figures to get hold of, and pretty easy to make Shield customs of. For Deano, paint his jeans black and slap an old basic/elite Shield vest on him. For Seth, just add the vest. www.classictvtoys.com/8inchcustombodiesandaccessories.aspxThis is my go to for cloth accessories/soft goods. Some of them fit Retro figures really well such as the cloth vests and jackets, the singlets are decent, trunks fit well and some of the shirts slip on and off well enough. If someone has rudimentary sewing skills, they can adjust the shirts to a better length. Sharing both for you and the thread.
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Post by RedDevil on Apr 15, 2020 18:01:15 GMT -5
And the Curt Hawkins Retro moves even further away I know we all wanted legends first and foremost in the line, but there are a few current guys I wish we would’ve seen get the Retro treatment eventually; Hawkins, Slater and Rusev were very high-up on my list of current Retros I wanted.
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Post by casanova on Apr 18, 2020 14:45:09 GMT -5
And the Curt Hawkins Retro moves even further away I know we all wanted legends first and foremost in the line, but there are a few current guys I wish we would’ve seen get the Retro treatment eventually; Hawkins, Slater and Rusev were very high-up on my list of current Retros I wanted. Agreed. I really liked the 2 current and 2 legends mix per line. I was hoping for guys like Hawkins, Miz, Ziggler, Gallows and Anderson and Harper and Rowan to complete the Wyatt family. I know many people didn’t care about the current guys figures, but personally I enjoyed most of them.
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Post by RedDevil on Apr 25, 2020 18:24:34 GMT -5
And the Curt Hawkins Retro moves even further away I know we all wanted legends first and foremost in the line, but there are a few current guys I wish we would’ve seen get the Retro treatment eventually; Hawkins, Slater and Rusev were very high-up on my list of current Retros I wanted. Agreed. I really liked the 2 current and 2 legends mix per line. I was hoping for guys like Hawkins, Miz, Ziggler, Gallows and Anderson and Harper and Rowan to complete the Wyatt family. I know many people didn’t care about the current guys figures, but personally I enjoyed most of them. Agreed - I respected them splitting the line-ups between current guys and legends despite personally obviously favouring the legends, but I understood they were trying to hook kids to the line as well in order to give it the best chance of success so I was on board with that objective. Of course the line never had a chance of hooking anyone not in love with the Hasbros given the gaps between releases and the impossibility of actually finding the figures in stores, but that’s another matter. I’d have really liked to have seen those current guys released in the line; Miz and Ziggler at least must’ve been close to being included.
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Post by RedDevil on Apr 25, 2020 18:57:35 GMT -5
Action Figure Attack has provided a really interesting answer in his Q&A thread; given that they don’t want follow-up replies and discussions in that thread, then I thought I’d move it here if anyone interested in the Retros missed it: Hi Steve - we all know that commentators and managers were a huge missing piece of the 90s Hasbro line. Mattel have/has access to some of these related names yet they never made it to the retro line. Was there any reasoning behind that? Secondly in addition is any consideration being given to trying to get something out for them before contracts may be up in any potential retro come back? Third and finally now you’ve got Greg Valentine tied up maybe we could see that long lost figure get a retro release finally??? I’d love an elite/retro double pack!!! A classic manager almost happened. It would have been exclusive to TRU. Nowhere close to a physical toy but it was in pencil. Then lots of things happened with the line which made it unable to come to fruition. So bottom line, I’m aware and I want the same thing you guys do. Reason it didn’t happen before then...while I wasn’t around during the creation of the line, I’d imagine tooling. Getting the most bang for the tooling dollars invested by creating some sharable bodies and mangers could have been limiting considering they’d have to be spread out a bit more in retail waves. Talent contracts expiring won’t help expedite a potential return of the line unfortunately. We’ll just have to work with who is available to us whenever it can return. Sure, I don’t see why a R&B Greg couldn’t be a possible option. First I’ve heard of any of this. Seems the death of TRU screwed the Retros as well as the other lines The classic manager must’ve been Paul Bearer, Bobby Heenan or Jimmy Hart, right? Harvey Wippleman, Cornette and Mr Fuji aren’t available to Mattel I don’t think. Sensational Sherri or Miss Elizabeth maybe since Mattel would’ve needed to design a fresh figure from scratch anyway so that could’ve been a great opportunity to create a female figure in that style at last. If Steve hadn’t said it was a classic manager then my first guess would’ve been a modern Heyman to match the series 1 Brock - maybe Paul E. Dangerously to bridge the gap between the eras? Anyway, thanks to Action Figure Attack for the answer, and BHG738 for asking the question
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Post by gentlemanjohnny on Apr 26, 2020 12:05:20 GMT -5
Action Figure Attack has provided a really interesting answer in his Q&A thread; given that they don’t want follow-up replies and discussions in that thread, then I thought I’d move it here if anyone interested in the Retros missed it: A classic manager almost happened. It would have been exclusive to TRU. Nowhere close to a physical toy but it was in pencil. Then lots of things happened with the line which made it unable to come to fruition. So bottom line, I’m aware and I want the same thing you guys do. Reason it didn’t happen before then...while I wasn’t around during the creation of the line, I’d imagine tooling. Getting the most bang for the tooling dollars invested by creating some sharable bodies and mangers could have been limiting considering they’d have to be spread out a bit more in retail waves. Talent contracts expiring won’t help expedite a potential return of the line unfortunately. We’ll just have to work with who is available to us whenever it can return. Sure, I don’t see why a R&B Greg couldn’t be a possible option. First I’ve heard of any of this. Seems the death of TRU screwed the Retros as well as the other lines The classic manager must’ve been Paul Bearer, Bobby Heenan or Jimmy Hart, right? Harvey Wippleman, Cornette and Mr Fuji aren’t available to Mattel I don’t think. Sensational Sherri or Miss Elizabeth maybe since Mattel would’ve needed to design a fresh figure from scratch anyway so that could’ve been a great opportunity to create a female figure in that style at last. If Steve hadn’t said it was a classic manager then my first guess would’ve been a modern Heyman to match the series 1 Brock - maybe Paul E. Dangerously to bridge the gap between the eras? Anyway, thanks to Action Figure Attack for the answer, and BHG738 for asking the question My guess is Bobby Heenan. Damn I wish they would have gotten it out some way. I hope to god this line can return at some point. If they put out managers and more of the old school guys, I assume they would sell better. Guys like Macho Man and JYD were certainly harder to find than others. If they do it right next time, it'll be worth the wait.
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Post by brad on Apr 26, 2020 12:45:11 GMT -5
A random thought... why didn’t we get a long tights Macho King? My personal fed could have used that big time...
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Post by heb854x on Apr 26, 2020 13:06:42 GMT -5
Agreed, always wanted long tights macho.
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Post by gentlemanjohnny on Apr 26, 2020 13:27:57 GMT -5
A random thought... why didn’t we get a long tights Macho King? My personal fed could have used that big time... Can't agree more with this. They made two Macho Mans. Pretty ridiculous that neither was the long tights that most would have wanted. While I did like the green trunks Macho Man, the NWO one was pointless. And even though the NWO Macho was one that nobody really asked for, it was still hard to get anyway - further proving that it was the old school wrestlers who sold the best. I'm looking at the Xavier Woods/ Iron Sheik boots and trying to understand how those weren't used on an Iraqi Sgt. Slaughter. Huge miss in my opinion. Maybe someday... I'm glad people are still posting on this thread. I know that Action Figure Attack is well aware that there are still people who really want this line back, I'm just hoping he can make it happen.
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Post by BHG738 on Apr 26, 2020 15:51:27 GMT -5
Action Figure Attack has provided a really interesting answer in his Q&A thread; given that they don’t want follow-up replies and discussions in that thread, then I thought I’d move it here if anyone interested in the Retros missed it: A classic manager almost happened. It would have been exclusive to TRU. Nowhere close to a physical toy but it was in pencil. Then lots of things happened with the line which made it unable to come to fruition. So bottom line, I’m aware and I want the same thing you guys do. Reason it didn’t happen before then...while I wasn’t around during the creation of the line, I’d imagine tooling. Getting the most bang for the tooling dollars invested by creating some sharable bodies and mangers could have been limiting considering they’d have to be spread out a bit more in retail waves. Talent contracts expiring won’t help expedite a potential return of the line unfortunately. We’ll just have to work with who is available to us whenever it can return. Sure, I don’t see why a R&B Greg couldn’t be a possible option. First I’ve heard of any of this. Seems the death of TRU screwed the Retros as well as the other lines The classic manager must’ve been Paul Bearer, Bobby Heenan or Jimmy Hart, right? Harvey Wippleman, Cornette and Mr Fuji aren’t available to Mattel I don’t think. Sensational Sherri or Miss Elizabeth maybe since Mattel would’ve needed to design a fresh figure from scratch anyway so that could’ve been a great opportunity to create a female figure in that style at last. If Steve hadn’t said it was a classic manager then my first guess would’ve been a modern Heyman to match the series 1 Brock - maybe Paul E. Dangerously to bridge the gap between the eras? Anyway, thanks to Action Figure Attack for the answer, and BHG738 for asking the question Thanks buddy. Dawned on me that nobody had asked this so off I went. I think it was probably Heenan - would have been incredible!
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