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Post by rKoNomad316 on May 20, 2019 2:26:53 GMT -5
This was garbage, A complete waste of a series. I feel cheated. Such crappy writing. This is what happens when you rush things. This had way too much filler & no end result that was worth a damn. What could actually be said that was good about this season?
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Post by jayrod2009 on May 20, 2019 5:46:25 GMT -5
I loved the ending. But I loved listening to me friend lose his crapeven more. Tyrion screwed over Jon, and Bran did the same.
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Post by rowdy1971 on May 20, 2019 9:19:09 GMT -5
lol just heard on the radio that you can see a plastic water bottle in one of the scenes.
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Post by sonstuds on May 20, 2019 9:22:33 GMT -5
I knew the finale wouldn't please everyone but seeing this reaction online is still pretty surprising. What were people expecting? I thought this episode was at the very least par, if not better, than what it's been since season 4.
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Post by kennyw86v2 on May 20, 2019 9:31:04 GMT -5
I knew the finale wouldn't please everyone but seeing this reaction online is still pretty surprising. What were people expecting? I thought this episode was at the very least par, if not better, than what it's been since season 4. Why did they send Jon to the wall? Because greyworm? Kill greyworm. greyworm. He was leaving...lie to him. This show was 83% lies. Why the hell did they take a prisoners advice on king? Where do they do that at? Why didnt Drogon roast Jon? Why didnt they at least show Ilyn Panye's dead body? He was the only one on Arya's list that never met his fate. Why never even use Jon's true identity for anything but a wedge between him and Dany? Why not use the last seconds to show Dany open her eyes, icy blue, to show that this is no happy ending? This was as bad and unimaginative as the rest of the season. I'm not upset because I expected more from these clowns, I'm upset because I knew what we were getting from the jump. I was the very first to criticize episode 1 of the season. I stand by that. Awful, start to finish.
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Post by Tim of thee on May 20, 2019 9:32:15 GMT -5
How is something rushed when they took 2 years to make it?
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Post by sonstuds on May 20, 2019 9:56:20 GMT -5
Why not use the last seconds to show Dany open her eyes, icy blue, to show that this is no happy ending? Because the Night King is dead, which due to its terrible execution is still by the far the worst part of this past season. I'm speaking generally here and not accusing you of it, but I'm really curious how many of the people bitching about the finale were fine with that.
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Post by Gargano on May 20, 2019 10:15:45 GMT -5
lol just heard on the radio that you can see a plastic water bottle in one of the scenes.
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Post by Gargano on May 20, 2019 10:17:03 GMT -5
Thank that's over with. Game of Thrones has always been one of those shows that I mostly watch just so I can partake in conversations about it. I genuinely haven't given too many sh'tes about the whole thing. Now bring us Watchmen.
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Post by kennyw86v2 on May 20, 2019 10:18:36 GMT -5
Why not use the last seconds to show Dany open her eyes, icy blue, to show that this is no happy ending? Because the Night King is dead, which due to its terrible execution is still by the far the worst part of this past season. I'm speaking generally here and not accusing you of it, but I'm really curious how many of the people bitching about the finale were fine with that. I agree that was the worst. That should have been a war. He should have killed many people and only died by an insane battle. But my thing is, none of it makes sense. So it doesnt have to make sense for her to he a night queen. But it would be better and more interesting than drogon just scooping and bailing. I'm ok with having to take a leap of faith to believe things. I'm not ok having to believe this is the best they could do.
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Post by jayrod2009 on May 20, 2019 10:48:49 GMT -5
Because the Night King is dead, which due to its terrible execution is still by the far the worst part of this past season. I'm speaking generally here and not accusing you of it, but I'm really curious how many of the people bitching about the finale were fine with that. I agree that was the worst. That should have been a war. He should have killed many people and only died by an insane battle. But my thing is, none of it makes sense. So it doesnt have to make sense for her to he a night queen. But it would be better and more interesting than drogon just scooping and bailing. I'm ok with having to take a leap of faith to believe things. I'm not ok having to believe this is the best they could do. The story of ice and fire wasn’t about a dragon and a Night King, it was about the fire inside Danny against the ice inside Jon. He never wanted the throne. She wanted everything. She wanted Winterfell gone and Jon knew they would never bend the knee. He chose his family over blood. In the end, Jon knew nothing, he let everyone from Bran to Tyrion control him. It led him back to his beggings north of the wall where he said he felt free. For Bran, he was the last rightful male Starke, and he sat on the throne in honor of his father Ned. It was an awesome ending to a long story. So in the end, we see that no matter how many things change, they stay the same. Irony.
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Post by kennyw86v2 on May 20, 2019 10:54:48 GMT -5
I agree that was the worst. That should have been a war. He should have killed many people and only died by an insane battle. But my thing is, none of it makes sense. So it doesnt have to make sense for her to he a night queen. But it would be better and more interesting than drogon just scooping and bailing. I'm ok with having to take a leap of faith to believe things. I'm not ok having to believe this is the best they could do. The story of ice and fire wasn’t about a dragon and a Night King, it was about the fire inside Danny against the ice inside Jon. He never wanted the throne. She wanted everything. She wanted Winterfell gone and Jon knew they would never bend the knee. He chose his family over blood. In the end, Jon knew nothing, he let everyone from Bran to Tyrion control him. It led him back to his beggings north of the wall where he said he felt free. For Bran, he was the last rightful male Starke, and he sat on the throne in honor of his father Ned. It was an awesome ending to a long story. So in the end, we see that no matter how many things change, they stay the same. Irony. It was lame. You're free to disagree. You're in the very small minority. There are more people willing to defend R.Kelly than GoT season 8.
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Post by Back to the Codyverse on May 20, 2019 13:13:54 GMT -5
Lmfao talk about your little storytelling now That ing sucked. The whole season
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Post by punksnotdead on May 20, 2019 13:16:21 GMT -5
Thought the finale was fine. Definitely not anywhere near as good as the penultimate episode imo, but I thought everything worked. Jon got to kill Dany and it was more sad than satisfying. Arya is off to see new worlds, which is the only next step for her character. Sansa gets to rule her family house as a free Northerner. Jon gets to be free in the true North and he was reunited with Tormund and Ghost in ultra satisfying fashion. Tyrion is right where he belongs, in his daddies chair. Again, from GRRM's mouth, the stories of men are far more interesting to him than the stories of the supernatural.
There were two things I really didn't like from the episode. First and foremost, Drogon roasting the chair. He's a dragon. He has no perception of inanimate objects. Maybe that was supposed to be a Smaug origin story haha. It looked super cool, it would make for a great art print, but it was too on the nose for my tastes.
My second complaint was Jon not killing Greyworm. He can't kill him because they need the impending war as a plot device so Jon doesn't become King, but man did Greyworm need to die. I kind of have a problem with the Unsullied and the Dothraki in general, I guess. The Unsullied don't have junk. So are they going to an island of all dudes to do what? And as for the Dothraki, are they all of a sudden going to stop murdering and raping people now that the war is over? So eh... kind of a reach on that one.
Overall, I thought the season was good. I liked last season better but I would like to view all 6 episodes in succession a few months from now to get a full perspective. I really, really, loved episode 5. I've watched it four times at this point. I've been on the entire ride with this show since season 1. It's had its ups-and-downs, and I still think Season 5 is my least favorite season by a fairly large margin. I think Season 2 was probably worse than both 7 and 8, as well. To each their own. I loved the Series as a whole and I'll miss it now that it's gone. I'd absolutely love to see an Arya spinoff.
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Post by Eugene69 on May 20, 2019 13:32:43 GMT -5
I liked it.
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Post by rKoNomad316 on May 20, 2019 14:59:56 GMT -5
How is something rushed when they took 2 years to make it? Because they had 2 years to prepare & they acted like they only had a few months to prepare. Only 6 episodes to wrap it up? Why? And this was what they came up with. A season that felt/was/is rushed.
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Post by K5 on May 20, 2019 16:08:37 GMT -5
I enjoyed the final season, but the last episode did feel like a train wreck. from bran of all people being king, Tyrion somehow being fully informed on the 3 eyed raven and seemingly understanding it’s significance (which was never explained), greyworm got completely ran over in that debate and allowed someone who betrayed him to then choose the king? just goofy stuff all around. and yeah, the dragon melting the chair... Jon Snow spin-off north of the wall, Arya exploring, I wonder what the third is...
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Post by kennyw86v2 on May 20, 2019 17:06:58 GMT -5
I enjoyed the final season, but the last episode did feel like a train wreck. from bran of all people being king, Tyrion somehow being fully informed on the 3 eyed raven and seemingly understanding it’s significance (which was never explained), greyworm got completely ran over in that debate and allowed someone who betrayed him to then choose the king? just goofy stuff all around. and yeah, the dragon melting the chair... Jon Snow spin-off north of the wall, Arya exploring, I wonder what the third is... Hopefully a bts ot the writers actively trying to ruin the series.
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Post by rKoNomad316 on May 20, 2019 17:15:48 GMT -5
Problem is why? Why did they build a story that Jon is the heir to Throne to not tell the others that he is the right to heir? Cause Jon didn’t want it, is BS. Or cause how he’d prove it? Well... that’s something for the writers to figure out. Not just create this storyline as filler.
Like said: Why send Jon to the wall? What’s to guard? F Greyworm. How would he know if Jon is where he says he is knowing he’s leaving anyways? He could’ve been with Sansa. Hell he could’ve sailed the sea with Arya. I’m sure no one in the North would say anything or really mind. Im sure the council wouldn’t have said anything or really mind. It’s Jon Snow! Ok Jon can’t be King but why the wall? What now he’s free, he’s with the free folks? Free from what? Free from the life & free to start a new 1? We all knew Jon should of been King & the North loved/respected him. He was built to lead.
Why Bran as the king? Come on. This makes no sound sense. Anybody but him would’ve made sense.
Arya leaving to be an adventure is something she’d do but why not stay & be there for her brother or sister?
Sansa a Queen? Whateves. It was going to happen.
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Post by scottydub on May 20, 2019 17:40:21 GMT -5
I don’t personally have a problem with how it all ended. My only issue isn’t with the characters or their stories, but probably with how rushed it all felt (which isn’t a new statement).
This season could have been a full one from the destruction of The Wall to the Battle at Winterfell, with much more fleshing out of major storylines like Danys struggle to find acceptance, Jon and Dany dealing with finding out his parentage, Jaimie’s redemption arc and return to Cersie etc. And then a Season nine to go from there to the finale, with a more careful journey towards Danys choice to destroy the city, and the fall-out of that choice. Again, more time spent getting to these major plot points would have helped a LOT. Would be interesting if HBO was willing and able to not change anything, but spend time “filling out” what we got this season and re-releasing the story as it could have been done. I don’t see any way that happens, but it would be great.
Overall though...well done team. I’ve loved it and will miss it. And I’m not willing to let these admittedly minor complaints/observations be my take away from 10 years of largely fantastic and engaging storytelling.
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