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Post by hbkbigdaddycool on May 3, 2019 10:05:01 GMT -5
www.cagesideseats.com/wwe/2019/5/2/18526933/report-reasons-wwe-wont-release-luke-harperIf any of this is true, then Vince has lost his F'N mind. Getting upset and not using someone because you "Don't get them" and because someone from New York can't pull a Southern Accent? Wow. If something doesn't work, go back to the damn drawing board and figure something else out, maybe take up one of the pitches Harper gave while he was out... Or maybe just rehash the 2017 push he had where he was, you know, OVER. As for the match, it sounds like he's solely pinning the blame on Harper for it being bad... Not the fact that it was overbooked with manager interference and the fact that EC3 is an average wrestler. The 2 don't mix well together, just like plenty of wrestler's don't mix together. If this is how Vince treats talent backstage, punishing them and treating them like garbage over the smallest things, then no wonder so many people want out. For the simple fact that Harper can't do a Southern Accent, he'll likely either be jobbed out or sat at home until 2020. Because Vince's way is the only way.
What I don't get is how Vince doesn't get Harper.
Vince pushed Harper to the IC Title 4 years ago, and gave him and Rowan a 5 month Tag Title reign last year, but somehow doesn't get Luke Harper??
I remember Road Warrior Animal said in a shoot about a year ago, that he was at a WWE show in the back, and Vince walked by and looked at Animal. Animal waved and Vince still didn't know who he was. Animal came over and said, "Vince... it's me, Joe. Animal from the LOD" and Vince was all, "oh... oh oh oh okay, yeah, Joe, how are you?" and walked on. It was like Vince had no clue as to who Animal was.
Vince could easily be losing his mind, or having some kind of memory problem, but nobody is gonna call him out on it, or they'll probably get fired.
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Post by RuthlessFigs on May 3, 2019 11:07:45 GMT -5
www.cagesideseats.com/wwe/2019/5/2/18526933/report-reasons-wwe-wont-release-luke-harperIf any of this is true, then Vince has lost his F'N mind. Getting upset and not using someone because you "Don't get them" and because someone from New York can't pull a Southern Accent? Wow. If something doesn't work, go back to the damn drawing board and figure something else out, maybe take up one of the pitches Harper gave while he was out... Or maybe just rehash the 2017 push he had where he was, you know, OVER. As for the match, it sounds like he's solely pinning the blame on Harper for it being bad... Not the fact that it was overbooked with manager interference and the fact that EC3 is an average wrestler. The 2 don't mix well together, just like plenty of wrestler's don't mix together. If this is how Vince treats talent backstage, punishing them and treating them like garbage over the smallest things, then no wonder so many people want out. For the simple fact that Harper can't do a Southern Accent, he'll likely either be jobbed out or sat at home until 2020. Because Vince's way is the only way.
What I don't get is how Vince doesn't get Harper.
Vince pushed Harper to the IC Title 4 years ago, and gave him and Rowan a 5 month Tag Title reign last year, but somehow doesn't get Luke Harper??
I remember Road Warrior Animal said in a shoot about a year ago, that he was at a WWE show in the back, and Vince walked by and looked at Animal. Animal waved and Vince still didn't know who he was. Animal came over and said, "Vince... it's me, Joe. Animal from the LOD" and Vince was all, "oh... oh oh oh okay, yeah, Joe, how are you?" and walked on. It was like Vince had no clue as to who Animal was.
Vince could easily be losing his mind, or having some kind of memory problem, but nobody is gonna call him out on it, or they'll probably get fired.
Jesus Christ... if that's the case, then there's a big problem, and it's true that no one will call him out on it, the only people who could would be Shane & Steph but obviously they won't... If Vince doesn't get Harper, then how does he 'get' Strowman & Rowan? it's like he's not even trying to make an effort. How can you take the most talented in-ring worker of the Wyatts, and someone with a noteworthy look, and just shove them on the sidelines for half their run? There's so much you could to with him, whether a heel or face. You could have him be that crazy eyed, unkept psycho heel. You could have him be a cold, silent, calculated 'killer' heel. You could have him be the "Underdog" babyface, by that i mean the guy who's never given the chance to shine and is always kept down, someone the people can relate with and get behind. You could have him be the anti-hero type face, someone who doesn't openly garner babyface reactions but does the right thing. - Back in 2017, i read a comment on Youtube i think that had a pitch for Harper. Whenever a heel would win a squash match or beat a Local, then beat them down after, Harper would appear to fend them off. That would have been an easy way to slot him into a feud with guys like Corbin or Owens. You could tell so many stories with him just with his signature glare alone. I don't 'get' it.
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Post by mrhoss on May 3, 2019 11:28:20 GMT -5
Vince thinks if Meryl Streep can pull off an accent then so should Luke Harper.
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Post by Angel Beast on May 3, 2019 11:35:54 GMT -5
Looks like Bray is trying to get Harper paired back with him.
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Post by rkmo: 10 Month Notice on May 3, 2019 12:03:32 GMT -5
So a northern guy who hates southern drawls is peeved that a northern guy can't do a southern accent so he can insult southern rednecks.
Makes sense to me...
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Post by k5 on May 3, 2019 15:56:22 GMT -5
if they could run with it, and not blow it, it could be interesting as a storyline. keeping him hostage...but they’d probably blow it
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Post by RuthlessFigs on May 9, 2019 8:53:31 GMT -5
"Luke Harper reportedly asked Vince McMahon if he could be released from his contract in November, if WWE wasn't going to use him, but Vince told him to take it up with Triple H. The Wrestling Observer Newsletter adds that Triple H then didn't respond to Harper, at least as of press time."
If this is the case, hopefully Triple H can do something for him, even if it's bringing him back to NXT like they did with Tyler Breeze, it'd be a good place for him to get TV time, a meaningful feud and maybe even a title run. Harper vs Dream for the NA Title would be an interesting clash of personalities, a good story with a great match.
They could even bring him in as kind of the 'Gatekeeper' of NXT, similar to Kassius Ohno, only without the terrible win/loss record and failed booking.
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Post by marino13 on May 9, 2019 16:27:23 GMT -5
Don't kiss anyone's ass. If they don't want to be there, save your money and let em walk. Because as much as I've always liked Harper, I don't see the point in forcing him to sit around. He's great, but I don't think he's going to be a huge ratings draw for anyone else.
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Post by Biff Slamkovich™ on May 10, 2019 15:07:28 GMT -5
Don't kiss anyone's ass. If they don't want to be there, save your money and let em walk. Because as much as I've always liked Harper, I don't see the point in forcing him to sit around. He's great, but I don't think he's going to be a huge ratings draw for anyone else. Regardless if Vince thinks certain talent could become bigger stars in another company or not, I'm sure that he simply refuses to let anyone make him look weak. If he lets one superstar go, it makes him look bad and he loses leverage.
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Post by Next Man’s Knowing Rock on May 10, 2019 18:07:06 GMT -5
Don't kiss anyone's ass. If they don't want to be there, save your money and let em walk. Because as much as I've always liked Harper, I don't see the point in forcing him to sit around. He's great, but I don't think he's going to be a huge ratings draw for anyone else. Regardless if Vince thinks certain talent could become bigger stars in another company or not, I'm sure that he simply refuses to let anyone make him look weak. If he lets one superstar go, it makes him look bad and he loses leverage. He just let Goldust and Ambrose go - could’ve frozen their contracts to make up the time from their injuries, but he chose not to.
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Post by RuthlessFigs on May 10, 2019 22:16:32 GMT -5
Regardless if Vince thinks certain talent could become bigger stars in another company or not, I'm sure that he simply refuses to let anyone make him look weak. If he lets one superstar go, it makes him look bad and he loses leverage. He just let Goldust and Ambrose go - could’ve frozen their contracts to make up the time from their injuries, but he chose not to. Honestly, if Harper didn't go public with the announcement, i'd say they would have granted his release. It's a damn shame that they're locking him in until 2020 and using him as an example. On Woods/Breeze's 'Battle of the Brands' on UUDD, Harper made an appearance and dropped the line "Maybe i can get booked on this show" If WWE isn't going to use him on Raw, Smackdown or NXT, then 'draft' him to UUDD haha.
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Post by Nivro™ on May 10, 2019 22:30:51 GMT -5
So a northern guy who hates southern drawls is peeved that a northern guy can't do a southern accent so he can insult southern rednecks. Makes sense to me... Pinehurst, North Carolina...birth place of Vince McMahon....just saying
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Post by rkmo: 10 Month Notice on May 11, 2019 0:03:39 GMT -5
So a northern guy who hates southern drawls is peeved that a northern guy can't do a southern accent so he can insult southern rednecks. Makes sense to me... Pinehurst, North Carolina...birth place of Vince McMahon....just saying Born in suburbs of Chicago, Illinois. Raised in northeast Alabama for all but the first three months of my life. Consider myself a Southerner, in spite of reviling in the ignorance I'm constantly surrounded by. Just saying...
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Post by TheSystem 1.5 on May 11, 2019 5:16:57 GMT -5
He just let Goldust and Ambrose go - could’ve frozen their contracts to make up the time from their injuries, but he chose not to. Honestly, if Harper didn't go public with the announcement, i'd say they would have granted his release. It's a damn shame that they're locking him in until 2020 and using him as an example. On Woods/Breeze's 'Battle of the Brands' on UUDD, Harper made an appearance and dropped the line "Maybe i can get booked on this show" If WWE isn't going to use him on Raw, Smackdown or NXT, then 'draft' him to UUDD haha. Allegedly*
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Post by RuthlessFigs on May 13, 2019 10:28:23 GMT -5
Fightful reports that a source told them that “Vince McMahon himself seemed to have a long-term issue with Luke Harper and that whatever happened wouldn’t have mattered anyway, going as far to say that McMahon ‘decided to hate anything he was involved in long ago.'"
"We noted that McMahon suddenly decided at the last minute that Harper should be in the Andre the Giant Memorial Battle Royal at Wrestlemania, which was described as a ‘mess’.
According to Fightful, Harper also had issues with that match, particularly with Braun Strowman. The match was reportedly a ‘disaster’ to plan and execute. Harper wasn’t happy that Strowman forgot his spot, a detail that the Observer previously reported also got him in trouble with officials backstage.
Harper was also upset that Ali ended up getting hurt. Just before that, Strowman hit Harper with a stiff kick. Harper attempted to protect Ali during his elimination and in doing so, hurt either his back or shoulder to keep him from falling out of control. Strowman didn’t think he did anything wrong in the spot, which caused more annoyance."
If true, then wow... Just wow. Seems like it can't get any more worse for Harper...
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Post by vampiro666 on May 13, 2019 15:33:32 GMT -5
WWE is holding him down so much that's why he's unhappy in the company he has potential to be a great star why can't Vince see that hell he basically can be this era's bruiser Brody if they would let him and give him a chance to be he has the look and size down for it already just let him be called Brody lee again and run with it. it's instant money for them if would just do this for his character
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Post by BoJack Hogan on May 13, 2019 17:49:29 GMT -5
Fightful reports that a source told them that “Vince McMahon himself seemed to have a long-term issue with Luke Harper and that whatever happened wouldn’t have mattered anyway, going as far to say that McMahon ‘decided to hate anything he was involved in long ago.'" "We noted that McMahon suddenly decided at the last minute that Harper should be in the Andre the Giant Memorial Battle Royal at Wrestlemania, which was described as a ‘mess’. According to Fightful, Harper also had issues with that match, particularly with Braun Strowman. The match was reportedly a ‘disaster’ to plan and execute. Harper wasn’t happy that Strowman forgot his spot, a detail that the Observer previously reported also got him in trouble with officials backstage. Harper was also upset that Ali ended up getting hurt. Just before that, Strowman hit Harper with a stiff kick. Harper attempted to protect Ali during his elimination and in doing so, hurt either his back or shoulder to keep him from falling out of control. Strowman didn’t think he did anything wrong in the spot, which caused more annoyance."If true, then wow... Just wow. Seems like it can't get any more worse for Harper... This doesn't sound possible... But Vince is a very petty, narrow minded individual who has historically had brief waves of vision and generosity. What kind of business owner develops a disdain for someone based on something as superficial as an inability to put on a fakev southern accent, only to hold them hostage for another year after it's been long made clear that they have no intention of ever using them again. If Vince hates him so much just let him go! The reports make it sound like Harper potentially prevented Mustafa Ali from suffering a significant injury at his own peril. If it were me I'd put that guy in the MITB match instead of the guy that ed up. It doesn't sound like Strowman is likely to win, could've put Harper in that spot. It certainly wouldn't hurt morale having a guy who saved another guy from being splattered in a match where the potential for injury is higher. Plus it would give him a chance to shine. But wait, Vince probably has some monster spots in line for Strowman in the match. Perfect. Lets reward the careless guy again. And btw, Harper again for not being able to do a southern accent, or sneezing in front of Vince in 2014, or whatever stupid bullcrap Vince is using as rationale that Harper is worthless. I'm pretty pissed off about this. Clearly the best worker in the Wyatt Family (by miles compared with Rowan and Strowman) and the second best talker is stuck on the bench for no damn good reason while Strowman and Rowan are in upper card to main event positions. He's going to be stuck there for another year now, by which time he'll be 40.... over a southern accent. Do him a favor and release him.
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Post by fzmadness on May 16, 2019 23:17:04 GMT -5
The WWE has no direction or plan for half the roster. This guy is a hell of talent and they brought him back to do absolutely nothing. They won’t release him bc he is going straight to the competition.
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