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Post by BoJack Hogan on May 7, 2019 18:58:18 GMT -5
Personally I find current WWE to be the worst that it's been in a long time. I can't really mention anything that I actually like. I'm content with certain things, but there's nothing that excites me. Wrestlemania was awful, and the storylines are all extremely weak. When I think about it I just feel tired. Thank goodness for the network and the classic content. Hopefully that doesn't go away or get curbed greatly by the tiered system coming up.
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Post by Iron Bison on May 7, 2019 19:30:12 GMT -5
As divisive as the decision was to bring back the brand split, I don't want to go back to having the same superstars on every show for that reason. Same superstars on EVERY show. Creative already blows whale chunks, imagine them ATTEMPTING to write stories for 1 superstar for BOTH shows weekly.
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Post by The Natural Eddy Valintino on May 7, 2019 20:46:54 GMT -5
I agree and disagree. I agree cause there's not enough main event stars to maintain two brands without ratings dropping. However, theres too much talent to merge the rosters. Unless they cut 20+, it would not be a good idea to end it. There's people not getting TV time in general, itd be worse if the split ended. Im more on the lines of ending it, but i would disagree as well with it
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Post by johnnyaustin21 on May 7, 2019 21:38:38 GMT -5
Brand split never should have been brought back.People complaining about if it ends will just see the same wrestlers every week,news flash that already happens.The likes of Reigns,Styles,Rollins,Charlotte,Becky,Corbin,Lashley,McIntrye,Owens,Strowman...ect will still be on every week and the bulk of the show like it is now.But with one roster atleast we can have fresher match ups and more star power on the shows.As far as to much talent in the WWE that on them for signing talents just to sign them.Again one roster only isn't going to do anymore damage to the talent that's not used or hardly used anyways.
News flash the WWE currently has 8 hours plus of weekly TV which is more then enough time to get the important talents air time,plus my god you know their own 24/7 channel.
All their issue still just boil down to Vince letting the current product pass him by and not stepping out of the way and the horse crap writing teams.
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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2019 22:48:11 GMT -5
There is way too much talent right now. With or without a brand split. I understand why they don't want to let go of a bunch of contracts, but if those people going to AEW are so threatening, why have you booked them so poorly that they want to leave? If they don't deserve to be pushed, what's to lose by them going to AEW. Keeping them is pretty much admitting you've screwed them up and know what you could have had.
I totally agree about one world championship. I think it's totally fine to have a couple of midcard belts, both US and Intercontinental title. They had it before with the IC and European titles and I didn't mind that at all. I worry I might be in too much of an old school mentality wanting one champion, but I think it adds a ton of credibility. There seems to be a mentality today that if you don't have a title, your career sucks or your stories don't matter, and that's just not true. Some stories need a title, i.e. Kofi-mania, but we could definitely have had an insane Bayley/Sasha feud with a huge payoff with no titles in sight.
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Post by BØRNS on May 8, 2019 3:43:03 GMT -5
Undoing the roster split would be the worst decision for WWE at this point. You think talent are being underutilized now?!? There will be absolutely no time if you have talent working both shows. And WWE will hold as many wrestlers hostage as possible. They do NOT want their names leaving to go to a growing competition. I would support a 2 hour NXT product, and bolstering the NXT roster a bit. But if SDL is going to 3 hours, it may be difficult to do both. We'll see how they WWE will move forward...
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Post by Next Man’s Knowing Rock on May 8, 2019 4:00:27 GMT -5
Ultimately, USA and FOX will decide it. USA wants Roman, they’re gonna get Roman. If FOX wants Becky, they’re gonna get Becky.
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Post by wayneyb on May 8, 2019 4:08:48 GMT -5
Ultimately, USA and FOX will decide it. USA wants Roman, they’re gonna get Roman. If FOX wants Becky, they’re gonna get Becky. Yep with huge tv deals comes influence from the networks Expect to see Palmer Canon returning to our screens shortly lol
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Post by TheSystem 1.5 on May 8, 2019 8:48:09 GMT -5
Merging the titles would do nothing good for anyone. With only 1 major title, Kofi never gets his moment. With only 1 womens title, nobody but Charlotte or Ronda is ever gonna be champ. This flavor of the month Becky crap isnt gonna last long.
...she’s been hot since August
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2019 10:14:53 GMT -5
I agree. It is time to end the brand split. The split hurt the women's and tag team divisions. The wild card thing is a joke. They should just end the split and never do it again because they can't do it right!
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Post by banthafett on May 8, 2019 10:48:41 GMT -5
The only thing WWE is going to do, is give you more of what you don't want. That means more Roman, more Bork( And they will have the belts from each show). Hours and hours of singles being put in tag team matches. And all this crap happening that last few weeks and Roman being shoved down throats again is bringing the rumblings that the whole Roman cancer thing was fake to get him over. I'm not here to say it is or isn't, just saying its in the air again.
Read between the lines of that investment call that was last week or so. Vince blamed ratings on injured wrestlers that were not on tv. HE ONLY MEANS ROMAN, NO ONE ELSE.(think he meant Harper, Wyatt, Fandango and all the other midcard players?) You know that same Roman who has been shoved down our throats for years now and ratings were hitting all time lows week after week while he was on tv. (there's no way that rumor is true that USA demanded Roman being on Raw, hes a ratings killer and the whole SD Fox thing is still 5 months away)
I like how people are still on the side that Vince isn't worried about AEW. You don't offer 3x the amount of money for a hand full of years to someone who you will never use on tv if you are not worried about competition.
The family owns more than half of the shares (they still do, right?) but all the other stock holders/investors need to speak up, make it public that a change needs to happen. Vince is running it in the ground because he's out of it, or just pissed he isn't getting what he wants (you like what he gives you and deal with it). He has to think the internet is the worse thing that have ever been invented.
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Post by Next Man’s Knowing Rock on May 8, 2019 11:18:14 GMT -5
He has to think the internet is the worse thing that have ever been invented. With posts like that wall of text rant, he’s probably right.
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Post by kennyw86v2 on May 8, 2019 13:24:59 GMT -5
Merging the titles would do nothing good for anyone. With only 1 major title, Kofi never gets his moment. With only 1 womens title, nobody but Charlotte or Ronda is ever gonna be champ. This flavor of the month Becky crap isnt gonna last long.
...she’s been hot since August With fans? Ok. Look where that got Ryder. With booking? Nah. Couple months after that close to survivor series they really picked up steam. That's around 6 months. If you think for one second that 6 months is gonna be her booking forever, you're one of the words I'm not allowed to say on here. Shes gonna lose one of those belts in 2 weeks. The other a couple months later. Then it's the wooo show again.
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Post by TheSystem 1.5 on May 8, 2019 16:04:07 GMT -5
...she’s been hot since August With fans? Ok. Look where that got Ryder. With booking? Nah. Couple months after that close to survivor series they really picked up steam. That's around 6 months. If you think for one second that 6 months is gonna be her booking forever, you're one of the words I'm not allowed to say on here. Shes gonna lose one of those belts in 2 weeks. The other a couple months later. Then it's the wooo show again. My point is that a flavor of the month isn’t over for 6 months and counting
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Post by HandsomeHollywood on May 8, 2019 16:07:16 GMT -5
Brand splits aren't needed. They are a bandaid. A symptom treatment. Yes there is a lot of talent but there is also an ungodly amount of content they out out weekly between TV, YouTube and the Network. Writing and planning would fix everything but Vince doesn't let anyone do that.
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Post by kennyw86v2 on May 8, 2019 16:37:27 GMT -5
With fans? Ok. Look where that got Ryder. With booking? Nah. Couple months after that close to survivor series they really picked up steam. That's around 6 months. If you think for one second that 6 months is gonna be her booking forever, you're one of the words I'm not allowed to say on here. Shes gonna lose one of those belts in 2 weeks. The other a couple months later. Then it's the wooo show again. My point is that a flavor of the month isn’t over for 6 months and counting But it often is. Wwe didnt book cm punk properly, but they gave him his run. But once dwayne came back, punk never sniffed the title or main event again. Becky is just like punk. She wasnt meant to get over when she did or how she did. Vince surely isnt genius enough to forsee how much people would jump on that bandwagon after the facebreaker thing. He is literally pacifying her fans now. Give her a taste of success, and them when you're happy, give it back to Charlotte and let mandy rose and tamina go over on Becky.
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Post by JTG on May 10, 2019 17:17:48 GMT -5
They've essentially ended with this new Wildcard rule anyway, so might as well just say talent is interchangeable. You don't even need to unify any titles either. Why not have a Raw and Smackdown world, tag team, and women's champion despite the talent being allowed on both shows? It gives their vast talent pool something to fight for. I'm not opposed to less titles but I also don't necessarily think you need to eliminate them either.
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Post by theoutlaw1999 on May 10, 2019 19:59:31 GMT -5
They've essentially ended with this new Wildcard rule anyway, so might as well just say talent is interchangeable. You don't even need to unify any titles either. Why not have a Raw and Smackdown world, tag team, and women's champion despite the talent being allowed on both shows? It gives their vast talent pool something to fight for. I'm not opposed to less titles but I also don't necessarily think you need to eliminate them either. Looking at both shows tag divisions at present only one title is needed. As for the Women belts they could easily remane one and turn it into a mid card title
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Post by Next Man’s Knowing Rock on May 11, 2019 7:46:47 GMT -5
But once dwayne came back, punk never sniffed the title or main event again. The Rock came back just before WrestleMania in 2011 and his part time run ended at WrestleMania in 2013. CM Punk was the Champion for almost that entire time, far longer than anyone else was.
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Post by kennyw86v2 on May 11, 2019 8:56:37 GMT -5
But once dwayne came back, punk never sniffed the title or main event again. The Rock came back just before WrestleMania in 2011 and his part time run ended at WrestleMania in 2013. CM Punk was the Champion for almost that entire time, far longer than anyone else was. How many matches did he have during that time? Let's not pretend he was out there busting ass every night. I wanna say that he won the title in his 3rd match back. They ended a year long reign to a more likeable brock lesnar. And then punk got put back in his place. Losing every single big match, never main eventing. The point is whether his reign overlapped the rocks presence, the point is he had his time in the limelight and was quickly shuffled back down for the chosen one. That was very clear. Sounds very much like what's gonna be done to Becky by Charlotte by summers end.
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