venusflytyr
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Post by venusflytyr on May 9, 2019 2:24:46 GMT -5
I read this story before "this" story came out, "Lars Sullivan Appeared In WWE Magazine Nearly A Decade Ago For An Amazing Reason" But I thought it got published in a non-WWE more Cosmopolitan like magazine.
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Post by Rated [R] NinJa on May 9, 2019 2:34:49 GMT -5
I care as much about Lars Sullivan as Brock Lesnar does about Heath Slater’s kids.
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Post by Next Man’s Knowing Rock on May 9, 2019 4:18:02 GMT -5
Why the should something he said years ago reflect his current situation? People change. I’m sick of this society of SJWs digging for old crap that was just fine in yesterday’s society , and treating it as current news. Way to go. This probably ed someone’s life over because some loser spent hours on hours of their time digging through someone’s old social media posts. I’d love to see any of your guys phone account history from 10+ years go, even from yesterday. Being a bigot was never "fine in yesterday's society" It was. But it was a lot longer than six years ago.
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Sting
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Post by Sting on May 9, 2019 4:32:58 GMT -5
This guy is scum. Amazed he is still in WWE to be honest. I wonder how the locker room feel about him.
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Post by RuthlessFigs on May 9, 2019 9:25:41 GMT -5
This guy is scum. Amazed he is still in WWE to be honest. I wonder how the locker room feel about him. Well this is a company that is still doing Saudi shows... Goddammit, now i've tarnished my future reputation in the industry when someone digs this up in 10 years.
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Post by 5th Horsewoman on May 9, 2019 9:36:53 GMT -5
He's not actually wrong on a few of his takes.
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Post by CM Poor on May 9, 2019 9:42:01 GMT -5
LOL @ people trying to attach the "he came up in a different time" excuse to this, like he's Joe Biden trying to ward off the creepy uncle stigma or something.
He's 30.
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Post by aggressiveperfectpoor on May 9, 2019 10:40:46 GMT -5
He's not actually wrong on a few of his takes. ...and what would those takes be?
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Post by BSR on May 9, 2019 10:47:51 GMT -5
Yikes
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Post by 5th Horsewoman on May 9, 2019 11:44:37 GMT -5
He's not actually wrong on a few of his takes. ...and what would those takes be? Ryder was cringeworthy at the time and the 2 black groups he mentioned.
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Post by 6 seasons and a movie on May 9, 2019 11:49:35 GMT -5
LOL @ people trying to attach the "he came up in a different time" excuse to this, like he's Joe Biden trying to ward off the creepy uncle stigma or something. He's 30. I am 35 and have known since High School that the internet is forever so don't post stuff you don't want to come back at you. So him being even younger and dealing with social media even more during his high school years makes it even worse.
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Post by CM Poor on May 9, 2019 12:08:38 GMT -5
LOL @ people trying to attach the "he came up in a different time" excuse to this, like he's Joe Biden trying to ward off the creepy uncle stigma or something. He's 30. I am 35 and have known since High School that the internet is forever so don't post stuff you don't want to come back at you. So him being even younger and dealing with social media even more during his high school years makes it even worse. EX. ACT. LY. I'll be 34 in July. Whatever precedent set for people our age is only compounded the later you were born. Pejoratives that were tossed around as routine insults in middle school were pretty heavily resigned to the realm of "things you don't say" by the time I left high school (which would have been ten years before Lars started making these comments). That's not to even say anything about the stuff he said that would have been considered taboo when I was a kid. I'm typically not much into the business of giving anyone the old "time and place" pass, as I feel the onus exists in each of us to grow and adapt to the world around us, but Lars definitely doesn't get it. This isn't some good ol' boy, old timer sh*t we're seeing here. This is the type of stuff that lives and breathes in counter to anyone who says that racism is dead.
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Post by Lorenzo Alcazar on May 9, 2019 13:55:41 GMT -5
Just to chime in on this again, if WWE would do what they did to Hulk Hogan over something he said on an illegal tape recording where HE was actually the victim in....Lars should AT LEAST be similarly punished for comments he has made on social media where he knowingly and purposefully posted these types of messages.
Just coming at it from an equity standpoint....Hulk Hogan was terminated, Lars Sullivan should also be terminated.
Now, WWE probably won't terminate Lars because A) Vince probably thinks he can be a draw, and B) the casual person does not, at this time, know who Lars Sullivan is and these comments are not going to hit the actual news media as they did with Hulk Hogan, who everyone in the world knows who he is.
However, WWE is really in a no win situation because you won't be able to hide Lars in anonymity forever, because IF he does become a star as I'm betting WWE is hoping for....then this eventually WILL pop back up and it WILL get main stream attention.
WWE would probably be best to cut bait on him NOW and get ahead of a potential embarrassing situation for the company, and if this is a situation where Lars was "young and dumb and has changed" or at least is going to CLAIM he was "young and dumb and has changed"...the sooner they cut him loose, the sooner he can begin his road to redemption and go away from WWE and better himself and work for smaller company and go on a global apology tour before maybe re-connecting with WWE 3-4 years down the line.
*edit* Any chance that Lars mysterious disappearance for months after being announced as an NXT call up was actually an internal suspension? During that time Triple H was asked on a conference call "where is Lars" and he vaguely said "Lars is where he's supposed to be".
Maybe this was one of those things that WWE found out about, internally suspended him, decided not to make anything public because maybe it wouldn't be found...but if it was found, which it HAS been, they can now say he's been internally punished and the issue is resolved?
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Post by GreyHaze:Big Bad Booty Daddy on May 9, 2019 14:02:08 GMT -5
Seems like this guy is a straight up dick. What’s amazing is the amount of people here defending him. I know people like him, they only want to change when people bring up their actions or when their reputation is on the line. Yes, people do say ignorant things and grow up, but it seems to me like this dude is just full of negativity. Ironically, I’ve suffered from anxiety attacks and for him to make fun of people who experience them is laughable. Good that he had an an anxiety attack.
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Post by jayrod2009 on May 9, 2019 17:16:55 GMT -5
Seems like this guy is a straight up dick. What’s amazing is the amount of people here defending him. I know people like him, they only want to change when people bring up their actions or when their reputation is on the line. Yes, people do say ignorant things and grow up, but it seems to me like this dude is just full of negativity. Ironically, I’ve suffered from anxiety attacks and for him to make fun of people who experience them is laughable. Good that he had an an anxiety attack. You had a point until that last sentence... then you completely negated your defense.
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Post by Nivro™ on May 9, 2019 18:00:32 GMT -5
Dont really care what people I dont know think/say/believe. If it bothered me Id never watch TV because all of Hollywood is full of scumbags.
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Papi Joker
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Post by Papi Joker on May 9, 2019 18:06:15 GMT -5
100% legit a kinda dude Vince would LOVE
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2019 18:24:51 GMT -5
Big Racist Boring
Vince’s Holy Trinity.
Sooner he retires the better and Lars will get some locker room justice I’m sure. Guy is a moron and hopefully will be gone soon.
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DestroyerOfNations
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Post by DestroyerOfNations on May 9, 2019 22:34:12 GMT -5
I'm not really on the bandwagon of digging up old quotes to use them against a person, people grow and learn and regret things they've said all the time. I will admit many of his points are not intelligent and racist, but I don't know if I'd say he should be fired or not. That's for the company to decide and for the locker room to deal with. If he didn't apologize or change his views though, he's probably got something coming for him in that locker room anyway.
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Post by Controversial Maverick PUNK on May 10, 2019 0:23:37 GMT -5
Can't believe he's only 31... looks closer to 41.
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