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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2019 15:32:58 GMT -5
Anyone else find it amazing to compare Jericho and Taker? Jericho was born 1970, Taker 1965...only 5 years apart, 49 and 54. And yet, Taker seems so old, still working once a year but if he had been retired the last decade no one would have found it strange. Jericho still works regularly in AEW and maybe other promotions, reinvents himself, doesn't work off of nostalgia.
Wild stuff?
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Post by King Richius on Jun 11, 2019 15:47:45 GMT -5
Jericho has a great mind for the business plus he hasn't been afraid to take a leave of absence to do other things, then come back completely reinventing himself. Taker got backed into a corner because of the immense popularity of his character. Remember the backlash around ABA? We may look back fondly on it now but at the time it was seen as a huge mistake and they couldn't wait to erase it and bring back the dead man persona.
Also, Jericho has adapted his wrestling style to something more conducive to his age, much like Ric Flair who was able to have great matches into his 60s. It's more about ring psychology and less about the moves they do. Taker and Goldberg showed at Super Showdown that as they got older, they needed to adapt their styles because it isn't as easy to do all the power moves that their younger selves made a living off of. Too easy to botch and seriously hurt someone someone trying to do what they should admit they can't do anymore.
I have much respect for Taker and what he has done, but maybe a little bit more for Jericho who has shown over his career that he isn't blowing smoke up our ass when he says he is the best in the world at what he does.
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Post by hbkbigdaddycool on Jun 11, 2019 16:04:16 GMT -5
Undertaker has to wrestle a certain style, and look a certain look, and be the Undertaker at all times.
Chris Jericho can do whatever he wants, change it up, go with the times, change his wrestling style, and have fun.
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Post by rowdy1971 on Jun 11, 2019 16:51:48 GMT -5
Jericho never had Mabel sit on his head and break his eye socket. Jericho never had to try to get matches out of Giant Gonzalez and every other big guy they threw at him. How many Hell in The Cell matches has Jericho done? I'm not knocking Jericho because he was smart to take a couple years off here and there. That's why he can still go. Also he's smaller and that helps a lot as well.
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Post by TheEvilDoink1987 on Jun 11, 2019 17:19:09 GMT -5
Jericho never had Mabel sit on his head and break his eye socket. Jericho never had to try to get matches out of Giant Gonzalez and every other big guy they threw at him. How many Hell in The Cell matches has Jericho done? I'm not knocking Jericho because he was smart to take a couple years off here and there. That's why he can still go. Also he's smaller and that helps a lot as well. Undertaker wasn't usually on the receiving end of most of the crazy stuff involved in his Hell in the Cell matches. I will never take anything away from him as he deserves all the respect in the world for the career he has had, but Jericho took his lumps and wasn't exactly handed all of his fortunes either. I think it is a matter of Undertaker being an established name way before Jericho was even a blip on the radar despite their surprisingly slim age gap. The Undertaker was defeating Hulk Hogan for the WWF title in 1991 while Jericho didn't really make an impact until about 1998. He was only a few years younger in real life, but from a career perspective about a decade behind Taker and all that he accomplished. Agreed, 100% that Undertaker being forced into owning that character hindered his creative ability to be able to bounce around and shake his character up like Jericho has in recent years.
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Post by tylerbreezee on Jun 11, 2019 19:00:15 GMT -5
I'm pretty positive that Jericho has never been seriously injured in his entire career or even has ever had a minor one. Undertaker has a metal hip.
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Post by k5 on Jun 11, 2019 19:10:49 GMT -5
undertaker has like 7 inches and at once time over a 100 pound difference with jericho. still dove over the top rope, did that insane legdrop to the table outside to austin, competed in hiac more than once...makes sense that's he's broken down.
not taking anything away from jericho. outside of being out of shape from time to time, the guy can still go. which does say a lot.
someone on reddit said that the wwe should do an angle where vince has undertaker's urn, and that's why he has to keep doing these battles. one last fight against someone representing vince. would actually be a solid storyline to go out on and save some of the damage that's been done.
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Post by Nivro™ on Jun 11, 2019 20:01:22 GMT -5
The majority of Takers problems come from the fact his size doubles the punishment on his body. Big people, whether tall/fit or tall/fat are inevitable to have knee/leg problems
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Post by bababooey on Jun 11, 2019 20:21:33 GMT -5
The majority of Takers problems come from the fact his size doubles the punishment on his body. Big people, whether tall/fit or tall/fat are inevitable to have knee/leg problems I was going to mention this. Taker’s body will break down faster. Also, does anyone remember there was a period of time when Taker work like a bulletproof vest under his gear because he was working through broken ribs, since he felt like he couldn’t miss time during the Monday Night Wars?
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Post by The American Daydream on Jun 11, 2019 23:31:20 GMT -5
If Jericho was Undertakers size or vice versa, there would still be no difference. One of them knows his limits and one doesn't or isn't allowed to abide by them at least bc he's loyal to a fault.
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Post by Tim of thee on Jun 11, 2019 23:45:10 GMT -5
I've enjoyed both their careers equally and see them as different tales entirely.
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Post by FLUX '97 on Jun 12, 2019 2:40:02 GMT -5
Jericho has a beer gut and gets drunk constantly to yell at marks on Twitter and now has a crapty finisher to boot.
Undertaker is, and will always be, a company guy with undying loyalty to the McMahon family.
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Post by JokerFC on Jun 12, 2019 5:27:05 GMT -5
Don't underestimate the effect that being a tall guy has had on UTs condition. He is more prone to injury....his back is more suspect to wear and tear...ditto for his hips.
UT would have been working that mental insane schedule for a fair few more years than Jericho....at least 8. Cant underestimate the effect that had.
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Post by Next Man’s Knowing Rock on Jun 12, 2019 6:42:38 GMT -5
It’s a little weird that Jericho has taken to wearing eyeliner now in his old fat guy phase, but then I guess he is AEW’s Undertaker.
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Post by Codyverse: Tag Team Champion on Jun 12, 2019 7:17:57 GMT -5
Taker is the GOAT.
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Post by Halloween King on Jun 12, 2019 9:55:33 GMT -5
Anyone else find it amazing to compare Jericho and Taker? Jericho was born 1970, Taker 1965...only 5 years apart, 49 and 54. And yet, Taker seems so old, still working once a year but if he had been retired the last decade no one would have found it strange. Jericho still works regularly in AEW and maybe other promotions, reinvents himself, doesn't work off of nostalgia. Wild stuff? Every shoot interview I've seen, in regards to WWF, has someone talk about the WWF schedule being very demanding. Lots of work, lots of time away from home. Take that into consideration. Undertaker has 10 years more in WWF than Jericho. Those 10 years of a more demanding schedule add stress and wear and tear onto your body. That alone is a big deal. Then you look at wrestling styles. Undertaker had more of a power moves style. Where as Jericho had more of mat style. It takes more of a toll on your body to pick up another human being, hold them, and drop down to your knees. Than the toll of holding someone's legs and arching backwards. Then I look at their careers. Undertaker has almost always steadily been on television. Where as Jericho has taken periods of time off to be in his band. It makes sense that UT would have more signs of aging.
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Post by Next Man’s Knowing Rock on Jun 12, 2019 12:23:59 GMT -5
Then I look at their careers. Undertaker has almost always steadily been on television. Where as Jericho has taken periods of time off to be in his band. It makes sense that UT would have more signs of aging. Eh, Taker’s been making very sporadic appearances for the last nine or ten years now. He was physically wrecked even before he had the purple gloves, though. Like Nash, he got into wrestling because he wasn’t quite good enough to make it in his preferred real sport. And as a naturally lanky guy, had to put on a lot of bulk to an already weakened frame. It’s amazing that he lasted so long before becoming an embarrassment.
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Post by Halloween King on Jun 12, 2019 12:35:05 GMT -5
Then I look at their careers. Undertaker has almost always steadily been on television. Where as Jericho has taken periods of time off to be in his band. It makes sense that UT would have more signs of aging. Eh, Taker’s been making very sporadic appearances for the last nine or ten years now. He was physically wrecked even before he had the purple gloves, though. Like Nash, he got into wrestling because he wasn’t quite good enough to make it in his preferred real sport. And as a naturally lanky guy, had to put on a lot of bulk to an already weakened frame. It’s amazing that he lasted so long before becoming an embarrassment. I dont think he's an embarrassment.
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Post by LostHawk05 on Jun 12, 2019 13:17:19 GMT -5
Taker should take some time off and start DDP Yoga. He’ll be a new man by the time Mania rolls around.
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Post by rkmo: 9 Month Warning on Jun 12, 2019 13:24:25 GMT -5
Taker should take some time off and start DDP Yoga. He’ll be a new man by the time Mania the next Saudi event rolls around. Fixed that for ya lol
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