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Post by Da Handsome 1 on Jun 15, 2019 10:01:23 GMT -5
I missed out on Bludgeons and KO's chase, and I didnt get everyone from 65 either that I wanted. They've barely been seen in these parts. That’s a bummer, the Bludgeons are at most of the targets in the area now. They are the ones left from that set here. I never saw the KO chase in stores but my buddy found me one. That is part of why Walmart just clearances them out a few times a year to get rid of that old stock and keep the fresh stock in stores. Target in the Bronx has one elite & it was the KO chase. 🤷🏽♂️
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Post by SteveHulk on Jun 15, 2019 12:16:41 GMT -5
...which is just what they said about the Wendi Richter figure... To be fair Bill gave a really detailed answer about Wendi Richter. He said he would figure out a way to get the figure out, but he loved the figure a lot and was gonna be real careful where he put it. He said Sherri was gonna come first and be kinda a test at retail, and I mean Sherri did just hit so it’s possible Wendi is being slated in the next 6-12 months, Bill have us a lot more insight on that figure than we do a lot of other things. I’d give him the benefit of the doubt on that one as it is still within the plan. I hope you're right - but it's still been over 20 months since we first saw her figure... and given the non-release of some other figures too, I think people have a right to be a bit concerned about Gorilla.
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Post by Di-Di-Dis-Distribution Problem on Jun 16, 2019 0:25:55 GMT -5
Unpainted produced Monsoon has been seen for sale illegally. So they have made it to production...
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Post by Mr. Show on Jun 16, 2019 0:46:08 GMT -5
Hopefully they retool that Monsoon before they release it if they do. It was way too skinny. The rest of the set were basics anyway so no big loss.
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Post by FUSamBaker on Jun 16, 2019 9:44:59 GMT -5
Unpainted produced Monsoon has been seen for sale illegally. So they have made it to production... Welp it looks like it’s about time for my truck driving uncle to find it at the Indiana Walmart 😂
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Post by aggressiveperfectpoor on Jun 16, 2019 14:20:49 GMT -5
Ericcana or whatever that goober's name is already has them! His crazy truck driving uncle from the United States found them in an out of the way WalMart in Bumfuk Idaho with the Gorilla Monsoon being a special Unpainted Proto variant.
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Post by theaxehennig on Jun 16, 2019 15:17:46 GMT -5
Unpainted produced Monsoon has been seen for sale illegally. So they have made it to production... Painted ones, along with Sheiky and Perfect are all out there also. I suspect we’ll see him sooner than later.
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Post by screech on Jun 16, 2019 18:01:05 GMT -5
Ericcana or whatever that goober's name is already has them! His crazy truck driving uncle from the United States found them in an out of the way WalMart in Bumfuk Idaho with the Gorilla Monsoon being a special Unpainted Proto variant. the haters will say its fake but its totally $100% real!
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Post by Hasbromaniac on Jun 16, 2019 18:58:43 GMT -5
Maybe Zack will get sent a free one and raffle it off ?
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Post by theMOESIAH on Jun 16, 2019 22:37:25 GMT -5
Please don't bump old threads...oh wait, I saw another "ThEy'RE kiLLinG Teh LiNE" thread and thought this was topped. Do you want to know why Vince gets away with recycling old storylines? Because the fans have proven time and time again that you have the memory of a bag of hammers. It's the halfway point of the year. Clearance time, baby! But every...single...time a store does a reset and a clearance, the line is ending. Seriously? Come on. There's a clearance after Christmas when they do the reset for the new year. Then there's a spring reset. Then there's a summer clearance at the halfway point of the year. Then there's a fall/Christmas reset. Then there's a clearance after Christmas when they do the reset for the new year. Then there's a spring reset. Then there's a summer clearance at the halfway point of the year. Then there's...do I need to go on? How does Mattel win, exactly? If they show protos or renders and the finished figures aren't up for sale three days later, they're a sack of crap and don't know what they're doing. If they don't show 148 news protos or renders, they're a sack of crap and don't know what they're doing and they also put on the worst/most disappointing con showing ever. You CAN'T have it both ways. You want to see new stuff? Then you run the risk of it being cancelled. But don't cry that they're not showing new stuff when they stop revealing new protos or renders. While we're on the subject of cancelled figures, exactly how many figures have been shown and NEVER released AT ALL? Less than ten out of all the figures released over the last nine and a half years? Almost everything eventually gets released. Now let's all meet back here in a few months when stores get ready to reset for Christmas and the line is ending again. Is there any way a mod can pin just this post?
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Post by AmericanMadeLesGold on Jun 17, 2019 0:40:34 GMT -5
It's not often I get gutted when the going gets tough but considering Monsoon was one of the most anticipated figures for me personally, I'd be lying if I said I'm a happy camper. Why bother showing off something that's ultimately going to be shelved? I get it, lineups change and nothing is set in stone, look at what happened with Dude Love being switched from Hall of Fame to Flashbacks to eventually the main line, but knowing the limbo that other anticipated figures like Naomi and Wendi Richter currently reside in with promises of "Getting them out ASAP" leaves me weary. I'd be the first to defend Mattel, they make a fantastic product. You can't deny when they put their feet to the flames they have the objectively best wrestling figures of all time (Look at E69 Ricochet). The most frustrating aspect is distribution and how wishy-washy the lineups are. It's as though nothing is certain until preorders go up on RSC. I get that TRU's closure made things difficult with Target and Walmart being the biggest toy buyers on the market, but they consistently have issues with making sure product hits the shelves. I place really no blame on Mattel here but more on the stores themselves for giving the runaround and killing the passion for many collectors. 95% of my purchases on WWE Mattel product as of the last year was online between RSC, eBay, and Facebook listings. Last figure I bought in a brick and mortar store was E63 Nakamura. I've all but given up wasting time and gas money fighting traffic only to be met with the same shelf-warmers over and over again with flippers and scalpers laughing their way to the aftermarket. It's not a Mattel exclusive problem, Funko deals with much the same when it comes to major retailers. This goes back to Gorilla, where could he go? Seeing as he's basically an Elite, placing him in the main line seems like a no brainer, if not RSC exclusive if there's doubts about how well he'd sell beyond old school fans. I know AFA says Gorilla is coming and I'm inclined to believe him over anyone else since he was right about Red Rooster, but I'm not holding out much hope. Bill always talks about having to "find a spot" for flashbacks or legends I really feel for him. How can he fit guys like King Harley Race, Ricky Steamboat, Superstar Billy Graham, Greg Valentine or Gorilla Monsoon into an elite line in the future, when he has to keep producing the same exact Braun Strowman? There isn't a conceivable way to find a spot for them...
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Post by SteveHulk on Jun 17, 2019 1:24:44 GMT -5
It's not often I get gutted when the going gets tough but considering Monsoon was one of the most anticipated figures for me personally, I'd be lying if I said I'm a happy camper. Why bother showing off something that's ultimately going to be shelved? I get it, lineups change and nothing is set in stone, look at what happened with Dude Love being switched from Hall of Fame to Flashbacks to eventually the main line, but knowing the limbo that other anticipated figures like Naomi and Wendi Richter currently reside in with promises of "Getting them out ASAP" leaves me weary. I'd be the first to defend Mattel, they make a fantastic product. You can't deny when they put their feet to the flames they have the objectively best wrestling figures of all time (Look at E69 Ricochet). The most frustrating aspect is distribution and how wishy-washy the lineups are. It's as though nothing is certain until preorders go up on RSC. I get that TRU's closure made things difficult with Target and Walmart being the biggest toy buyers on the market, but they consistently have issues with making sure product hits the shelves. I place really no blame on Mattel here but more on the stores themselves for giving the runaround and killing the passion for many collectors. 95% of my purchases on WWE Mattel product as of the last year was online between RSC, eBay, and Facebook listings. Last figure I bought in a brick and mortar store was E63 Nakamura. I've all but given up wasting time and gas money fighting traffic only to be met with the same shelf-warmers over and over again with flippers and scalpers laughing their way to the aftermarket. It's not a Mattel exclusive problem, Funko deals with much the same when it comes to major retailers. This goes back to Gorilla, where could he go? Seeing as he's basically an Elite, placing him in the main line seems like a no brainer, if not RSC exclusive if there's doubts about how well he'd sell beyond old school fans. I know AFA says Gorilla is coming and I'm inclined to believe him over anyone else since he was right about Red Rooster, but I'm not holding out much hope. Bill always talks about having to "find a spot" for flashbacks or legends I really feel for him. How can he fit guys like King Harley Race, Ricky Steamboat, Superstar Billy Graham, Greg Valentine or Gorilla Monsoon into an elite line in the future, when he has to keep producing the same exact Braun Strowman? There isn't a conceivable way to find a spot for them... It is a bit strange... they can find spots for figures like The Shark, Red Rooster and "stooge" Pat Patterson - but (comparatively) big names like Billy Graham, Greg Valentine and Wendi Richter are harder to release...? Even if Mattel are worried about them being in the main line, I would have thought that releasing them as store exclusives (like Backlund, Sherri, Patterson, Rock) would have been the way to go... heck, the Wendi Richter figure has already been made(!).
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Post by Chip on Jun 17, 2019 7:50:56 GMT -5
i hope they find a way to still release that Monsoon.
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Post by legendsguy on Jun 17, 2019 8:23:36 GMT -5
I guess you could add the old microphone with a second bigger jacket and arms like they did with Mean Gene. And put him in the WrestleMania wave that comes out every year if they cant find a "spot" I know that's a lttle down the road , however at least hes locked in somewhere.
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Post by One Punch Reigns on Jun 17, 2019 9:34:43 GMT -5
It's not often I get gutted when the going gets tough but considering Monsoon was one of the most anticipated figures for me personally, I'd be lying if I said I'm a happy camper. Why bother showing off something that's ultimately going to be shelved? I get it, lineups change and nothing is set in stone, look at what happened with Dude Love being switched from Hall of Fame to Flashbacks to eventually the main line, but knowing the limbo that other anticipated figures like Naomi and Wendi Richter currently reside in with promises of "Getting them out ASAP" leaves me weary. I'd be the first to defend Mattel, they make a fantastic product. You can't deny when they put their feet to the flames they have the objectively best wrestling figures of all time (Look at E69 Ricochet). The most frustrating aspect is distribution and how wishy-washy the lineups are. It's as though nothing is certain until preorders go up on RSC. I get that TRU's closure made things difficult with Target and Walmart being the biggest toy buyers on the market, but they consistently have issues with making sure product hits the shelves. I place really no blame on Mattel here but more on the stores themselves for giving the runaround and killing the passion for many collectors. 95% of my purchases on WWE Mattel product as of the last year was online between RSC, eBay, and Facebook listings. Last figure I bought in a brick and mortar store was E63 Nakamura. I've all but given up wasting time and gas money fighting traffic only to be met with the same shelf-warmers over and over again with flippers and scalpers laughing their way to the aftermarket. It's not a Mattel exclusive problem, Funko deals with much the same when it comes to major retailers. This goes back to Gorilla, where could he go? Seeing as he's basically an Elite, placing him in the main line seems like a no brainer, if not RSC exclusive if there's doubts about how well he'd sell beyond old school fans. I know AFA says Gorilla is coming and I'm inclined to believe him over anyone else since he was right about Red Rooster, but I'm not holding out much hope. Bill always talks about having to "find a spot" for flashbacks or legends I really feel for him. How can he fit guys like King Harley Race, Ricky Steamboat, Superstar Billy Graham, Greg Valentine or Gorilla Monsoon into an elite line in the future, when he has to keep producing the same exact Braun Strowman? There isn't a conceivable way to find a spot for them... I mean I thought the intention of the Top Picks line was to save space in the main Elite series to have more variety in the main line. It makes no sense that we get two of the exact same figure like you said Braun Strowman in Top Picks and the main line. Perhaps it's more complicated than we truly know since like I said in my post, Dude Love was scheduled for a while before ending up in the Elite series. We're seeing more examples of that here, Gorilla will likely either be in the main line if Walmart is giving him the heave ho. I just hope they use the Paul Heyman/Bearer jacket torso, the one they used initially is a little thin.
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Post by monroe on Jun 25, 2019 15:34:30 GMT -5
i wonder how many of the produced figures that were pulled are just sitting in a warehouse like in indiana jones ?
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Post by powerfred3k on Jun 25, 2019 23:42:21 GMT -5
[/quote]Bill always talks about having to "find a spot" for flashbacks or legends
I really feel for him. How can he fit guys like King Harley Race, Ricky Steamboat, Superstar Billy Graham, Greg Valentine or Gorilla Monsoon into an elite line in the future, when he has to keep producing the same exact Braun Strowman? There isn't a conceivable way to find a spot for them... [/quote]
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Post by JP on Jun 26, 2019 11:02:49 GMT -5
Gutted about this, I really wanted Monsoon. Hopefully they can slot him in somewhere else, but I don’t hold out much hope on that.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2019 12:00:17 GMT -5
Gutted about this, I really wanted Monsoon. Hopefully they can slot him in somewhere else, but I don’t hold out much hope on that. I don't understand why they couldn't have incorporated these 2 packs into the battle line instead of just cancelling them?! They have done away with the separate SummerSlam themed sets they release every year as well BUT instead of cancelling them altogether they are converting an existing wave from the main lines into SummerSlam themed sets (E68 & B97). They could have easily done the same thing for these Survivor Series themed sets, convert an upcoming wave into a SS-themed set.
I believe they will find another way to release Monsoon but I don't think us legends collectors are going to like it- they will probably make it some sort of obscure exclusive that only a small group of people can find like with Flashback 3.
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Post by JP on Jun 26, 2019 12:25:36 GMT -5
Gutted about this, I really wanted Monsoon. Hopefully they can slot him in somewhere else, but I don’t hold out much hope on that. I don't understand why they couldn't have incorporated these 2 packs into the battle line instead of just cancelling them?! They have done away with the separate SummerSlam themed sets they release every year as well BUT instead of cancelling them altogether they are converting an existing wave from the main lines into SummerSlam themed sets (E68 & B97). They could have easily done the same thing for these Survivor Series themed sets, convert an upcoming wave into a SS-themed set. I believe they will find another way to release Monsoon but I don't think us legends collectors are going to like it- they will probably make it some sort of obscure exclusive that only a small group of people can find like with Flashback 3.
That is an excellent point. Even if they drop the other sets, just get that Monsoon/Heenan pack in the main line - it’ll be a good seller, I’m certain of that. It’s true what you say - we more than likely won’t be happy with how they release him now, I’m still perplexed over the FB Harley.
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